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05 Jan 2007, 3:46 am

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In my opinion it's guys that are false, two faced slags that trample on other peoples feelings.


All of us? Have you met every last one of us, or even, say, 51% of us? If you haven't, you can't really say we're all "false".


Then the girls can't say all the girls are false and say "I hate girls".



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05 Jan 2007, 4:52 am

As a teen, I was more prone to automatically hate other girls. They were the ones who were the most cruel when it came to teasing and excluding me. Now that I'm older and can choose who I expose myself to, it is more of a general distrust until I can feel confident they won't turn on me.


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05 Jan 2007, 8:38 pm

To me the women who are gossipy, cruel or hateful seem to be the ones who have slavishly adopted this as their gender role, it seems to me that women have been socialised to treat each other that way. I have never gotten on with this type of women or girl, but I don't hate them I would say I feel sorry for them. I love feminists and dykes.



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05 Jan 2007, 10:52 pm

I don't hate anyone...I do frequently have a problem relating to other woman.

I like electronics, computers, video games, flowers & cars...I cut my own hair, I'm not fond of make-up, and my clothes are in the color spectrum of gray and black...my son is doing well in school, and isn't into any trouble...I'm divorced, don't have boyfriends over, and I don't talk about my personal life.

Basically...I think most think I'm strange and very boring... :lol:


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06 Jan 2007, 1:35 am

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I don't hate anyone...I do frequently have a problem relating to other woman.

I like electronics, computers, video games, flowers & cars...I cut my own hair, I'm not fond of make-up, and my clothes are in the color spectrum of gray and black...my son is doing well in school, and isn't into any trouble...I'm divorced, don't have boyfriends over, and I don't talk about my personal life.


Sounds just like me except for the divorced and having a kid thing. My clothing choices are so monotonous that my husband actually complains. He's said things to me before like "I'm not letting you buy that sweater if you're going to buy it in black. Go put it back and pick another color. And not grey!"

Eh, I guess I don't like cars either.

Other women find me offensive a lot of the time too. I find "politically incorrect" or off-color things to be incredibly funny, and women aren't generally into that. Seems like only men laugh at "dead baby" jokes.



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06 Jan 2007, 7:21 am

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In my opinion it's guys that are false, two faced slags that trample on other peoples feelings.

I seriously cannot see why people like them and get along with them.


LOL, I can see that we have both had different experiences. Is this in a friendship way, relationship way or both? If you're talking about the romantic/sexual way then yeah, men can be like that. I have a lot of male friends though and I have found that, as friends, men can be pretty cool (or the vast majority of the men I know anyway). I have a lot less female friends, but the ones I do have I like very much (a woman called Lucy at work is lovely, and I have two other new friends who live near me that are nice too). But there are a couple of men in particular I know who have been very good friends to me, yet I haven't slept with them and they don't expect me to (lol). I think I am more biased against women because of two women in particular (although a lot more women than this have pissed me off, as I would never judge women on just these two). One girl who I used to live near upset me a lot. I used to be good friends with her and she used to be a genuinely nice person. Now she's just false and if you don't wear the latest fashion or listen to the same music as her, she won't even talk to you. And she's a slag too. Some of the things she has said to me have been very hurtful and she tried to pinch a boyfriend of mine, and then slept with someone I liked knowing full well I was plucking up the courage to ask him out. Needless to say she is a b***h and I didn't ask the guy out. It turned out he liked me too but I just couldn't go with him as they both knew how I felt and then did that anyway so they were both s**ts.

The second female who pissed me off was one I met in late November. She seemed quite nice to begin with. She is someone that my boyfriend knows as she happens to be an ex of sorts (basically they were f**k buddies for a year). Within a few minutes of meeting her, she was flirting with my boyfriend concerning her naked body, and then telling my boyfriend how beautiful her breasts were. She made no effort to talk to me all night and I just wanted to sever her head off, b***h!! !! I just found to be a tactless wench.

I have had similar experiences like this with quite a few women hence I tend not to get along with most of them. I am assuming that you must have had many bad experiences with the opposite sex to feel the way you do about them.


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06 Jan 2007, 7:52 am

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In my opinion it's guys that are false, two faced slags that trample on other peoples feelings.

I seriously cannot see why people like them and get along with them.


LOL, I can see that we have both had different experiences. Is this in a friendship way, relationship way or both? If you're talking about the romantic/sexual way then yeah, men can be like that. I have a lot of male friends though and I have found that, as friends, men can be pretty cool (or the vast majority of the men I know anyway). I have a lot less female friends, but the ones I do have I like very much (a woman called Lucy at work is lovely, and I have two other new friends who live near me that are nice too).

But there are a couple of men in particular I know who have been very good friends to me, yet I haven't slept with them and they don't expect me to (lol). I think I am more biased against women because of two women in particular (although a lot more women than this have pissed me off, as I would never judge women on just these two). One girl who I used to live near upset me a lot. I used to be good friends with her and she used to be a genuinely nice person. Now she's just false and if you don't wear the latest fashion or listen to the same music as her, she won't even talk to you. And she's a slag too. Some of the things she has said to me have been very hurtful and she tried to pinch a boyfriend of mine, and then slept with someone I liked knowing full well I was plucking up the courage to ask him out. Needless to say she is a b***h and I didn't ask the guy out. It turned out he liked me too but I just couldn't go with him as they both knew how I felt and then did that anyway so they were both s**ts.

The second female who pissed me off was one I met in late November. She seemed quite nice to begin with. She is someone that my boyfriend knows as she happens to be an ex of sorts (basically they were f**k buddies for a year). Within a few minutes of meeting her, she was flirting with my boyfriend concerning her naked body, and then telling my boyfriend how beautiful her breasts were. She made no effort to talk to me all night and I just wanted to sever her head off, b***h!! !! I just found to be a tactless wench.

I have had similar experiences like this with quite a few women hence I tend not to get along with most of them. I am assuming that you must have had many bad experiences with the opposite sex to feel the way you do about them.


I don't have any male friends.



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06 Jan 2007, 12:28 pm

Fiz wrote:
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In my opinion it's guys that are false, two faced slags that trample on other peoples feelings.

I seriously cannot see why people like them and get along with them.


LOL, I can see that we have both had different experiences. Is this in a friendship way, relationship way or both? If you're talking about the romantic/sexual way then yeah, men can be like that. I have a lot of male friends though and I have found that, as friends, men can be pretty cool (or the vast majority of the men I know anyway). I have a lot less female friends, but the ones I do have I like very much (a woman called Lucy at work is lovely, and I have two other new friends who live near me that are nice too). But there are a couple of men in particular I know who have been very good friends to me, yet I haven't slept with them and they don't expect me to (lol). I think I am more biased against women because of two women in particular (although a lot more women than this have pissed me off, as I would never judge women on just these two). One girl who I used to live near upset me a lot. I used to be good friends with her and she used to be a genuinely nice person. Now she's just false and if you don't wear the latest fashion or listen to the same music as her, she won't even talk to you. And she's a slag too. Some of the things she has said to me have been very hurtful and she tried to pinch a boyfriend of mine, and then slept with someone I liked knowing full well I was plucking up the courage to ask him out. Needless to say she is a b***h and I didn't ask the guy out. It turned out he liked me too but I just couldn't go with him as they both knew how I felt and then did that anyway so they were both s**ts.

The second female who pissed me off was one I met in late November. She seemed quite nice to begin with. She is someone that my boyfriend knows as she happens to be an ex of sorts (basically they were f**k buddies for a year). Within a few minutes of meeting her, she was flirting with my boyfriend concerning her naked body, and then telling my boyfriend how beautiful her breasts were. She made no effort to talk to me all night and I just wanted to sever her head off, b***h!! !! I just found to be a tactless wench.

I have had similar experiences like this with quite a few women hence I tend not to get along with most of them. I am assuming that you must have had many bad experiences with the opposite sex to feel the way you do about them.


What's her phone number? :)



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06 Jan 2007, 12:29 pm

[/quote]I don't have any male friends.[/quote]

Are you an Aspie? If you have an interest in computers, star trek, dinosaurs, physics, chess, mathematics there are plenty of guys who would be open to being your friend.



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06 Jan 2007, 12:43 pm

I don't hate either men or women generally. I get irritated by women who put on an act of being helpless to get men to do things for them which they could probably do themselves. I wouldn't like to be beholden to a man by acting like that. In our house my husband and me each have our own areas of expertise, e.g. he does the gardening because he enjoys it, I do the accounts because I'm better at it, so we split chores that way.
I have a couple of men friends, but I prefer the company of women. I think I have more in common with them.



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06 Jan 2007, 7:53 pm

Ok, I was exadurating. I have a few male friends. Only a few though. I still find them very hard to relate to.



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07 Jan 2007, 10:57 am

So the topic is Men vs. Women - who do you hate more?

Now, everything I say here is going to be MY opinion....YOU are allowed to think whatever YOU want. That's the beauty of walking upright and having opposeable thumbs.

I'm not real fond of people in general.

I have people that I call "friends".

But maybe, now that I know that I have Asp, I'm just using a word that means something to me and means something different to the rest of the world.

I have aquaintences that I call friends.

I have learned that it's impossible to tell what people are going to do from one day to the next - so it's kinda hard to rely on people or predict what they're going to do.

I've decided to go to the school of thinking that says, "If you want it done right, you've got to do it yourself". Whomever said this probably had Asp.

Women (that I've hung out with) tend to want to be your friend when it's convenient to them. Men seem to be the same way. Maybe those are the people that I, personally attract.

After reading some of the responses here, however, I don't think that's correct. Is this an Asp thing? I can't imagine how many aspects of my life that this "syndrome" has affected!

I have a hard time believing that I have to label everything from now on, "Oh, I feel this way because I have Asp", OR "Is this person my friend only because I have Asp, and those are the only people I can attract?"

What's really important, however, is that I KNOW that I'm unique. I don't have to label it to the point of some sort of diagnosis (no, haven't been technically diagnosed)...because I've NEVER been a fan of labels (I don't even think I'm spelling label right...THAT should tell you something!).

Anyway, get over it. Stop relying on others to dictate who you can or can't be friends with. If someone is a nice person...most of the time...and you enjoy his/her company...most of the time...well then, only hang out for a few hours at a time, and don't put too much faith in the long term. Enjoy life today...try not to schedule the rest of your life. You'll just end up disappointed. :wink:

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p.s. I have a friend (a friend, not an aquaintence)...and he's told me that when we hang out, it can only be for four hours. Any longer, and we usually end up getting on each others nerves. Believe it or not, it actually works! Sounds stupid, now that I'm looking at it on the screen. Whatever, it works.

pps. As for those women that put on an act of being helpless...DAMN! I WISH I could act like that sometimes! Then maybe I wouldn't have such a bad back from moving furniture or painting the kitchen myself! (HA HA HA) :lol:


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07 Jan 2007, 11:39 am

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pps. As for those women that put on an act of being helpless...DAMN! I WISH I could act like that sometimes! Then maybe I wouldn't have such a bad back from moving furniture or painting the kitchen myself! (HA HA HA) :lol:


Yes, that's probably why they irriate me so much - I'm too strong and capable-looking to get away with it :lol:



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07 Jan 2007, 7:58 pm

I wouldn't say I hate women, but most of them annoy me. I can't really relate to them at all.


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09 Jan 2007, 7:44 pm

Always have and always probably will. As a kid when playing with other girls it did not take long for a physical fight to break out. I would only play with girls who were sumissive and that I could push around or who would do what ever I said. It was like I wanted to domanate them they way an animal would. I got along with boys better than I did other girls.



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21 Jan 2007, 3:19 am

It's hard when you don't have much in common with them...like who wants to engage in catty gossip and different behavior in front of guys than when with girls, for example. Not most of us, here, I'll bet.