On feeling unsafe in women only spaces

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Boo I don't get it. You complain when women say anything is difficult about dealing with women. But you go on about how it's difficult to deal with women. You seem to say women should never complain about women, but men should? And to be asking why is it misogynist if men do it and not if women do it (though it can be).

Because people with less power often put one another down and it's considered problematic for a dominant group to do the same. So you are provoking people by saying the dominant group (men) are putting the often victimized group (women) down. That's not to say men are never victimized, but this endless insistence it's ok men put women down because sometimes women do won't change that generally, no, it isn't.

Waterfall, let me give you some history on WP: Almost every time a guy on L&D vents about his experiences with women (often dating-wise) - a bunch of women pop up in the thread (like how I am popping up here) and start to lecture him how whining is not attractive, and start to accuse him of women-bashing, misogyny...etc especially if he ever forgets to put the 'most'... like how some female users did here when they were talking about women, but even the use of the 'most' didn't change much. This had been happening for so long.

It's the same how you did to me now - you said :

[quote]Because people with less power often put one another down and it's considered problematic for a dominant group to do the same. So you are provoking people by saying the dominant group (men) are putting the often victimized group (women) down. That's not to say men are never victimized, but this endless insistence it's ok men put women down because sometimes women do won't change that generally, no, it isn't.
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in other term, you have just accused me of promoting the idea that "men should put women while women are forbidden to do so." - something which I never said and it was totally put in my mouth - bu it's a fine example how it was often happening on L&D.

So.... as long no they are not promoting some hate speech, can you (ladies of WP) let the straight guys complain freely about dating and about their personal experiences with the women they know, please? Without jumping down their throats ....like every time?

I mean, look at this thread, everyone is letting you to express your frustration with women in general - and no one is jumping down your throat (well, except me, but I did that to make a point); and I am sure same would happen in in a thread about your experiences with men in general, and I wouldn't jump down your throat, I know well I am not associated with the men you personally knew and would complain about.

I am leaving this thread, I hope I made my point clear this time.

I think you have used the wrong people to make your point... and I am wondering if the OP is a plant.
The ones who were welcoming of male perspectives in the women's section, are to generalise, not the women you have had issues with.
Yet we are the female members that you are holding up as an example, posting links to this thread all over WP, introducing it as women bashing, the one thread you could find where women spoke up about a common issue and you shut the conversation down, to make your point and equate a genuine issue with the glut of insulting all women are posts.... Boo you need to learn how to be gentlemanly towards female issues.

The OP is a plant? or plan? are you accusing her of something?

No, she is not me.

Stop with your conspiracy theories.

You are funny.

Not every new user has to get hooked to the forum, that's so normal. Some people come to
post something and go.

And her english level is certainly native. - so please.

You can always ask the mods for IP checks.

^
Most of the derail is coming from explaining myself to you - so let's drop this subject now.

/bye.