Robbie Williams thinks he’s an Aspie

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And then if you do figure it out and you want to share iit you get an additional “diagnosis” of being a prima donna.

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There is a big difference between Hans Asperger and Warner Von Braun. Von Braun was a full member of the Nazi party and later joined the SS during the war. (There is a photo of him in an SS uniform when Himmler visited Peelemunde to prove this point.) He held the rank that would be equivalent to a Major. If it was not for Operation Paperclip, he would have likely been tried for war crimes tied to the V2 rocket program. Asperger did work with the Nazis, but was not a full member of their party from what I have seen. He was not on the radar for war crimes after the war. While he likely sent children to their deaths due to his diagnosis, he did not work on technology to directly kill other people at a level like Von Braun did. Both can be seen as evil, but one has much stronger overtones than the other.



One of my good friends has a family connection to Von Braun:

She had a step father who personally worked with Von Braun back in the early stages of NASA. Before her step father died a decade ago, he told my friend that he personally thought Von Braun was likely guilty of war crimes, but they greatly needed Von Braun's technical help to get the rockets into space. America was embroiled with the Cold War and wanted to win at any cost, even if it meant the guilty went free in the process.

After the step father died, the family members were cleaning up his things from the military retirement village and came across a hand-written letter from Von Braun to the step father, that mentioned "he was the smartest American that he had ever worked with". NASA and the Smithsonian had already been there to pick up the old NASA design plans and spaceship models for their museums. They did not deem the letter worth keeping for display as it was personalized and did not contain anything that they thought would be interesting to them. Unfortunately, one of my friend's brothers threw it out in the cleaning out process. It was long gone before my friend realized what had happened to it.

I disagree about the two types. I was diagnosed at ten, but everyone knew there was something strange about me. Even as an infant I showed signs of being autistic, and more so of SPD. I grew up extremely stubborn and withdrawn, I never made eye contact, hated adults, Had daily meltdowns and drawn out shutdowns. I got lost all the time in school and had trouble understanding speech. I stimmed all the time, and my spd was clear as day. Before Asher and the filter that both came long after diagnosis, I could barely leave my house.

I wan't diagnosed until ten because other than my motor delays that no one noticed, I had no delays and very little speech trouble, and I was very smart other than trouble with math, so I fell under everyone's radar. I was seen as an extremely strong willed, cluzy, strange and withdrawn kid.

If I wasn't diagnosed then I suspect I wouldn't of handled high school and would of dropped out by now, and without asher and the filter moving out would be far less likely than it looks now. Holding a job also doesn't seem likely. In general I wouldn't be doing well. So I don't think it's one or the other.

I agree that it is perfectly possible that he could be autistic- It's not like it's impossible for an autistic guy to pass for NT and succeed in life, for all we know he could of been struggling hard and just masking it.

Nothing wrong with thinking there are different levels of autism. After all the manual has them at 1,2 and 3.

The real question is what is the benefit of pushing for a dx if you are borderline level 1 and your life is working fine?

Just my opinion but from what I've seen here of some of the posters in great jobs and satisfying social lives....wtf are they kvetching about?

Hans Asperper was never a member of the Nazi party which was probably why he was not procescuted unlike the people he worked for. He gained career advancement by sucking up to his bosses and because his older Jewish collegues fled. His Autism diagnosis was informed by Nazi psychiatry ie Autistics did fit into the greater organism the less affected disabled can be useful for society the more disabled need to be killed. He was not a Nazi fanatic or a leading Nazi, he was complicit, a cog in the Nazi machine.

But couldn't something similar be said of every soldier, every airman, every munitions worker, in the Third Reich? There must be, surely, the concepts of forgiveness, of redemption, of the recognition that the country, the people, and the individual, have moved on? They were maybe put in an impossible position, and they did what was necessary to survive.

That is a rather simplistic take on things. There are people like myself who whilst not technically in the 'severe' category were also not living relatively normal/extraordinary lives. There is the fact that some of us, from older generations when info was scarce , came late to finding things that went towards explaining the constellation of symptoms we have . Did that mean we suddenly acquired symptoms in our 40s? No -those things were always there but we just didn't know of terms to hang things on.


Also there is a range of functioning between being institutionalised /semi institutionalised and living independently without support.

I live independently but with support . My latest care plan the other day said I needed that support to ensure I could continue to live independently. A previous report to support a claim for disability benefits said I had limited ability to live independently in the community. I may not be semi institutionalised but neither am I going it alone in terms of coping. I suspect there are many people like me.

Every soldier did not sign children to their death or sit on committees that decided this. Unlike most soldiers, he was not drafted.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is just a simple publicity stunt.

What does asher and the filter mean?

Ezra- you always ask the best questions.

Asher is my service dog, he gives me sensory relief, a distraction from overload, and a bubble of space in public.

The filter is a device that helps with auditory processing by slowing the speed of one ear to that of the other so that the brain can actually get through the information. Basically, without it my sensitivity to sound is very severe, with it I have no problem.

https://www.ablekidsfoundation.org/cent ... solutions/

That sounds really interesting , does it have a medical name or is it just filter - I would love to try one.

I have no clue if it has a medical name. The linked place is the only place in the world that makes it right now, and it is rather expensive, but I recommend it especially if auditory sensitivity is the main sensory issue.

^Thanks

Hope it becomes successful and gets marketed worldwide and at a reasonable price.

Why does anyone care? Don't know who he is and don't care. It's his life, and between him and his doctors and or therapists. Whether or not he is is none of mine or anyone else's business. He can say what he likes just like anyone else undiagnosed here.