aspie men and sexual misbehavior

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I agree with hale_bopp. It makes me cold inside, to think that because of people like this paedophile, others on the spectrum are more likely to be accused of similar behavior.

Last night I was playing pool with a lovely women from Mexico, she was very beautiful, and I'm so confused at my recent diagnosis of AS, I tried telling her about it, but she was too stoned to understand my Kiwi accent and English. I'm so fearful at present of upsetting people that I tend to freeze and say little, when I am socialising the aspie way.

My guess is that aspie men make many gaffs in conversation, I do. Some may obsess about another and take that too far regarding contact and harassment. Otherwise most of the bad stuff like date rape, drugging, internet prowling, predatory behaviours, and, and, I think would be more your NT males

what are you talking about? my secrets are small, like "oops i read that paper that was sitting on my bosses' desk", not big like "i want to have sex with helpless children". no comparison there.

what a clueless statement you made. makes me wonder about YOUR secrets though....

Can't find the confounded ::rolleyes:: emoticon. *sigh*



So true.

You do realize, don't you, that the stock response to this is 1) denial, followed by 2) impugning the character and morals of the messenger?



My aspie son (16) made the mistake of smiling at the girlfriend of a football player. Then he stared at her in class (never mind that she sat in front of him). Finally, he said, "Hi," when she was coming out a door he was heading in. She filed a sexual harassment complaint against him, and he was sent to the school for troublemakers. The school's sexual harassment policy only required that a student make another student "sexually uncomfortable" on three occasions. Her football player buddies all backed her up. Of course, it helped a WHOLE lot that the Vice Principal, who was in charge of discipline, was also the head football coach. Now THERE was a fair process. </sarcasm>

Before dumping on people for sexual harassment, understand that can mean a wide range of things, some of which don't even make sense.

You find it roll eye worthy that I think its disgusting that someone uses aspergers syndrome as an excuse for something like that?
You must be another one of these people who go "Its aspergers fault I bla bla bla"
Now its my turn to roll my eyes.

I have never sexually harassed anyone. I've also never tried to initiate sex with anyone who wasn't willing.

Yes, I have had sexual relationships. I shall reiterate what has already been said. AS/autism is generally not an excuse. Generally, because I can't speak for those who are on the lower-functioning end; I don't know how they operate.

Now that is just ridiculous. It frustrates me that this sort of thing is allowed to happen, and it's not just at that school either. I've said "hi" to girls before. Better lock me up!

As for hale_bopp, I'm on your side. Some people are simply scum and shouldn't be alive, and it cheapens all of our diagnoses -- and the human species as a whole -- when they do something horrible and try to pull the AS card. Good riddance to them.

Roll them all you want.

I think that the "I hope he blows his brains out" type comments are cliché, and in no way help the problem, ESPECIALLY in regard to prevention. As for the claim that it is an embarrassment to this community - pedophiles exist in LARGE numbers in EVERY community, so Aspergers is IRRELEVANT to the issue. What the embarrassment is is that pedophiles harm children in the first place, and more that the press choose to vilify the Asperger's community disproportionately (except for Catholic clergy, of course).

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I have an intollerance for people who use aspergers to get out of crimes.

And I suppose that if YOU were charged with a crime, you'd mount no defense but would plead guilty and pull you time like a trooper, right?

well, it may have been an unfair accusation. it's hard to say, as the information is thirdhand. did you appeal?

are you recommending that people do not admit any wrongdoing when they are charged with a crime? people should take resonsibility for themselves and yes - pull their time like a trooper.

Yes. They investigated themselves and found that they had done nothing wrong. The policy was valid, the grievance process was followed, and the committee vote was valid. Besides, the law states that the principal has final authority, and could send him there for any reason. That means that even if we won (which we didn't), the principal could - and would - send him there anyway.

I would mount a defense. But it wouldn't be "I have aspergers syndrome".

honestly, i'd only mount a defense if i was actually innocent. if i did something wrong i would plead guilty, because, well, i was guilty. i am shockingly, ridiculously honest and i would never feel right if i was guilty of a crime and my defense somehow managed to clear me of charges.

Well yeah, if I was in the wrong then why should I mount a defense? I would mount one if I thought there was one, like I hit a bully or something.

What a pile of nonsense !

1. The idea of "Sexually uncomfortable" is too poorly defined. If saying "Hi" to someone you meet makes them feel sexually uncomfortable then I am sure that by midweek almost all the team I work with will have sexually harassed each other.

2. You should consult a lawyer, or at least read the law in your state regarding expulsion from school. The principal had a strong conflict of interest. I hold a view that he should have not touched the case. If you get a real pitbull of a lawyer you could get him to have a go at ripping the principal up on the stand.

I do not know what state you are in and I only know UK law on school expulsion so I an not give perfect advice, but as expulsion and other school matters are regulated by state law then you might be able to bring a court case in a real court with lawyers and a judge. You could argue that if the school is allowed to have final say on the matter that your son's case is a modern day version of the case of "George Archer-Shee". The reason I cite this case is that it was one all about the lack of due process in the UK independant state.

I would be interested to know how case law works in your state but I know that a UK court can use the legal reasoning from a foreign court if the legal reasoning appeared to be sound.

I would contact the ACLU as it is possible that your son's civil rights may have been infringed, I suspect that the school would recoil in horror if they had the ACLU on their case.