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01 Jan 2011, 5:00 pm

I wrote a few days ago that I write fictional novels because I love going to new worlds. I love writing new worlds. And most of all I feel its the one and only place that I have a voice. However, I feel that popularity takes and muddles over my voice. Sometimes I feel like the name of someone important takes away what I try to say in my fictional writing.

I feel sometimes like I am only trying to deny myself or live in denial. Sometimes I feel like the truth is I have no voice. And that I am a nobody. And that no matter how hard I try, no matter how rare or "unqiue" I am. That no one will listen to what I say. Because the truth is I am just not the popular mentality type of person.



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01 Jan 2011, 5:37 pm

Pandora_Box wrote:
I wrote a few days ago that I write fictional novels because I love going to new worlds. I love writing new worlds. And most of all I feel its the one and only place that I have a voice. However, I feel that popularity takes and muddles over my voice. Sometimes I feel like the name of someone important takes away what I try to say in my fictional writing.

I feel sometimes like I am only trying to deny myself or live in denial. Sometimes I feel like the truth is I have no voice. And that I am a nobody. And that no matter how hard I try, no matter how rare or "unqiue" I am. That no one will listen to what I say. Because the truth is I am just not the popular mentality type of person.


So you are a "blue ocean" type person then. I believe many with AS are people who have great ideas but are not effective in promoting them for various reasons, some of which you mentioned, among them.

I think it's a mistake to think that people won't listen to your ideas. I also think it's a mistake to think everyone will listen to your idea. I once read a quote from a prominent innovator, who's name I can't recall, in which he expressed his experience that the best ideas are the most difficult to promote, because you are up against those who don't share your vision due to various forms of short sightedness.

But "knock on enough doors" so to speak, and you will find someone who does share your vision. In fact in the creative writing and entertainment arena, they want innovative ideas. So you need to find the people who want to hear your ideas. They do exist. In fact, there are people out there who go through great lengths to find those with innovative ideas.

Perhaps part of what's holding you back is your hesitancy to throw yourself into an environment in which you have to promote yourself, and compete with others, or into an environment of which there are a lot of unknowns to you, and which you are not familiar with. You can become more familiar with such environments by approaching those who are in them and asking them how they broke into them and how it all works.

I took some business courses at university and we have a few quest speakers from venture capitalist firms. I was surprised to find how nice they all actually were, and how receptive they were to new ideas, even if a person had no experience in business. They were very approachable.

This differed greatly from my grandfather, who was a business man, who was quick to shoot down most of my ideas...not really on the basis of any logical flaw, more so on the basis that he came from a different generation, and as innovative as he attempted to be, he just couldn't see my vision. Unfortunately I usually didn't pursue them after he shot them down, and I saw many of them materialize and become quite profitable under the direction of others who came to the same vision later than me, and knew how to go about promoting it.



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01 Jan 2011, 5:43 pm

Thanks Chronos.

I understand. I just don't want to become, like a sell out.

I want to keep the interrogatory of me.



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01 Jan 2011, 5:59 pm

Pandora_Box wrote:
Thanks Chronos.

I understand. I just don't want to become, like a sell out.

I want to keep the interrogatory of me.


Most accomplished writers have had to compromise at some point. I imagine some publishers are willing to allow the writer complete creative control other than a few minor editing details, however if you want your book made into a movie, you usually do have to sell out unless you produce the movie yourself.



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01 Jan 2011, 6:09 pm

Chronos wrote:
Most accomplished writers have had to compromise at some point. I imagine some publishers are willing to allow the writer complete creative control other than a few minor editing details, however if you want your book made into a movie, you usually do have to sell out unless you produce the movie yourself.


I love anything that I can create. Music, photos, mini movies, writing, etc.

I like creating because I get to escape.



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01 Jan 2011, 6:40 pm

Pandora_Box wrote:
I like creating because I get to escape.


That's all it is for me. I tried doing commissions, but it's just not the same. I only enjoy it when I'm in total control. So I code for money and create for myself. XD I guess I never cared whether anyone else got what I was doing. I'm sure, though, that there is an audience out there for pretty much anything. You just have to find them.



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01 Jan 2011, 6:49 pm

I feel that the only place that I truly have a voice, is on WP. If I got my validation elsewhere, I wouldn't have as many posts as I do.


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01 Jan 2011, 6:56 pm

Zen wrote:
That's all it is for me. I tried doing commissions, but it's just not the same. I only enjoy it when I'm in total control. So I code for money and create for myself. XD I guess I never cared whether anyone else got what I was doing. I'm sure, though, that there is an audience out there for pretty much anything. You just have to find them.


I want my audience to be like me.

The kids who craved and wanted something new and unique and different. But we never found it in the sea of commercialized crap.



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01 Jan 2011, 7:23 pm

I love writing fiction too. Science fiction. My problem is that my ADHD gets in the way. Medicated I can write for months and finish my stories too but lately I find I can't even get through a single page.
Then I begin to think 'oh that's a stupid story anyway.'

I'd be interested in reading some of your stories or any seeing/ hearing any other creations.

My biggest problem with my writing is because I'm sort of critising popular things in modern day I want to write and publish it fast. I also like writing about future science so it has to stay future science.
But I do like my ideas and although I may borrow ideas from someone else I can change it enough to almost become unrecognisable. But most good writers have taken ideas from somewhere.
I'm pretty much writing for an audience of people like me too, and those NT's that like to think about things more deeply. But usually it's for misunderstood people (made fun of/ left out from the group), bored with mundane life, looking for some sort of adventure.


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01 Jan 2011, 7:45 pm

I'm a writer too - I actually used to get paid to write, when I was self-medicating myself with ephedra (ADHD also).

I found I have a tendency to imitate other writers' voices if I had recently read them (I finished a contracted work while reading Sandman, and the editor said it was very Gaimanesque. I finished a contracted work while reading Hunter S. Thompson, and well.. I think it was all for the good, but I am not sure I would typically choose to write such things). I have ideas I want to explore that are not typical for fiction, and again write for people who are like me, who want to see themselves reflected in fiction, something that does not often happen.

I hope my own voice can come through, but I think I've actually developed such a thing in the past few years.

I don't expect to get anything done without getting back on medication.



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01 Jan 2011, 8:17 pm

Pen: That would be grand. I'd love to get someone's opinions. I know I need a lot of work and I am not going to try and get published for a while. But it still be nice.