Do You Dislike Jocks Or Feel Intimidated By Them?

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Jocks and jock attitudes have always been one of my greatest annoyances but surprisingly in my younger days it was some of the milder jocks who often tried to involve me socially when others would not. As I became older though, this ended and jocks turned into my worst nightmare and are the ones who have intimidated and / or bullied me the most.

When you stop to think of it, the jock mentality is the antithesis of everything that the Aspie personality represents so perhaps this has something to do with my passionate dislike for jocks. Here are a few examples:

Jocks thrive on noise, commotion and distractions. Peace and quiet are the mortal enemies of any jock. This includes those clowns who go revving their engines as they drive down the road at all hours in order to attract attention and demonstrate their aggression. Oh and then there are all the door slammers too. After all it is the jocks who invented such a thing as the pep rally in order to incite people into a state of frenzy whether those people felt that way or not. This leads to the next point.

Jocks cannot function on their own - they can only function in groups (the larger the better) according to the rules of mob behavior. Places such as bars and arenas were invented with jocks in mind to provide places where the herds can stampede while still remaining in a contained space in order to continue to incite each other to their mob behavior. Jocks pretend to be so macho and powerful, but they are too cowardly to be capable of standing on their own two feet. Being forced to do so reduces them to powerless wimps. Jocks are where the notion of "might makes right" came from.

Jocks are highly intolerant and judgmental. They impose themselves and their values on others. They truly seem to believe that the whole world wants to be exactly like them and they thrive on that state of conformity, with themselves sitting on the throne. It is not too surprising that jocks tend to go on to become politicians and business leaders (often corrupt, crooked and scheming) where they can continue to exert that control over others. Jocks live for that sense of power rather than for the good they can do for other people.

Combining the two points above, think of all the times you have seen some radical public spokesman (two good examples are the Tea Party or Cynthia McKinney, who used to be my congresswoman) standing on a speaking platform with a line of PO'd looking clowns lined up behind them to demonstrate solidarity. It is only an extension of the strength in numbers concept that jocks shovel down everyone's throats. None of them have the courage to stand on their own and show their independence. Then think of the Al Quaeda videos of some thug beheading someone with a line of lesser thugs lined up behind him brandishing AK-47s. The message is identical... the only thing that is missing are the AK-47s.

Jocks are usually dumb. How many jocks do you know of who go on to become scientists, engineers, doctors, poets, artists or musicians? If they do so then it is done for the benefit of jocks everywhere, such as the sports medicine specialists. Otherwise they go on to become lawyers, politicians and business leaders where they can lead their life continuing to control people rather than making a real contribution to the world.

Jocks are nosy and they try to get into your mind. Because jocks think all the world of themselves, they cannot tolerate independent thought. Because the Aspie personality includes that withdrawn, introspective nature, jocks cannot stand it because they cannot determine what we are thinking... along with the possibility that they are not at the center of our thoughts. As a result they become very nosy, trying their hardest to get into your mind to see what is really there. When we are not around they still gossip and speculate about us like a bunch of old women gossiping about something that is none of their business to begin with. My stepbrother was a football jock and some of the wild speculation that came from his mouth in his late night phone conversations while I was trying to sleep would deserve honorable mention in any tabloid. Jocks live solely for other people's attention and are never satisfied with their own accomplishments.

Perhaps we should all revisit the movie, "Revenge of the Nerds". Jocks serve no useful purpose other than to enhance their own egos. As the line in the movie says, they should all go live in the gym.

During my senior year in college, I was one of a very hip group of guys who were all true pacifists. These were Vietnam era days and these guys were the closest thing i ever had to real friends along with a sense of belonging. We lived in a dorm named Dobbs Hall and the many of our group lived down in the basement, which is where we often hung out. One of my best friends named Leonard, who sadly died a year later (encounter with a tractor trailer), nicknamed our group as the Delta Beta FFDA (Dobbs Basement Free Food and Drug Administration) mocking all the fraternity jocks use of the greek alphabet for their designations. One day that Spring the school sponsored an event for all the jocks to let off steam, which was called the "Aggression Day Rally". Leonard had no use for such an idea steeped in violence so he came up with a counter proposal that we should carry out and named it "The Delta Beta FFDA Anti-Aggression Day Rally". He even put up a few posters around the dorm advertising the rally just like the fraternities had done all over campus. For this event we all sat around on the ball field smiling at each other and treating each other with dignity and respect. For what its worth, Leonard was a very NT type of person and very outgoing, but had none of the hateful, selfish attitude of the jocks.

Perhaps the DSM should describe a disorder known as Jockism to be defined as a subset of extreme NTism.

What do you think of jocks?

Jocks serve their purpose. If the world was suited to you and your aspergers, you would not adapt to the world. Jocks are commonplace in the world, you must learn to adapt to them.

I look at jocks as rowdy people. Aspies are more calm people, however, their pertinsity to learn and exhibit learned behaviors allows them to basically be a social chameleon. I hung out with alot of jocks in highschool, I was on the wrestling, football, baseball and basketball team. They will impose their behavior on you until you let them know that you dont stand for that kind of thing (you dont let others dictate your mood), once they know that they shouldnt try and "rile" you up, its smooth sailing.

As this seems too good to be true, it is. Usually jocks need to get in a fight and get their ass kicked before they will respect your wishes. Maybe you get lucky, and they will do so with a simple request for leanience but from my expierence, you need to exhibit dominance, ferocity and demand respect in a chaotic environment or you will succumb to others' will.

another trick to blending with jocks, get drunk. you will become a jock too

So then what are you? What about the ones who tried to include you, are they bad people too?


They just choose to do so by wearing a pink shirt or a pair of funny sunglasses. Human beings are meant to be interdependent, not independent or dependent.


But you said they were dumb. Are they all intensely trying to psychoanalyze you?


I wonder what jocks think of ret*ds? Oh wait but it's not fair to call us ret*ds! They're just assigning a label to something they fear because they misunderstand! Kind of like...jocks.


I hate sports, and I never make fun of people, but jocks aren't necessarily bad people. I fell in with the eccentric stoners at the end of high school, but they had plenty of "jock" qualities. I joined a fraternity in college and met some hardcore jocks, even if they weren't the ones I became good friends with. "Sup f***er? You watch the Phillies game? Why not, ya gay brah?" You just need to understand, that's polite conversation to them. That's how they interact with one another and they mean no harm by it. If they make fun of you, you can look at it two ways: That dude is REALLY insecure, or, he considers you socially normal enough to mock. Jocks don't make fun of kids with Down's syndrome.

If you judge them without knowing anything about them--and let's face it, you don't. You think they're analyzing you like you're analyzing them.--then you're just as bad as they are.


IntrepidWolf: I find that the best thing you can do is just become socially normal enough that jocks don't single you out. Now of course that's not enough; jocks make fun of everyone. But "everyone" doesn't get offended. You should react to playful fun-poking by saying "Ahaha whatever you say as*hole" and you should react to serious insults with a casual "Wow dude, dick comment" or "Yeah okay fa***t". THAT'S how you stop being the guy in your group of friends who gets ripped on constantly. A few drinks can help too, yes

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They made my life miserable when I was in school, so I can't say that I'm comfortable around them.

I just don't understand how people can get so excited about games. I enjoy physical activity, getting outside, etc. But I have seen adults CRY over the outcome of a game!! ! My mom made me play baseball one summer and it was the worst summer of my childhood. Everyone would be so sad if we lost and so happy when we won. I couldn't have cared less. I just wanted to go home.

I tried playing soccer in first grade. I'd sit down in the middle of the game and start plucking grass. I hated practice when it was muddy or drizzling. Ugh! Being all wet and dirty.

I was always picked on by jocks when I was in school. They intimidate me a little, but not as much as they did back than. I can't really be intimidated by them if I've long since graduated from high school, because I'm not in the school building. The other thing is that if it wasn't for jocks, the Olympics wouldn't exist. What would I do, every two years?

The only 2 people who leap to mind as direct personal experience are the guy who sat at the next table over in Physics.
He was a football player and he even though he tended to run with the "in" crowd, he made a point to actually NOT be
an ass toward the weirdo leaning people.

Then there's the guy who just married my best friend who when I visited them went out of his way to make me feel welcome
even though we do not see eye to eye on really anything. I'd never hang with him or his buddies in a million years, but the
guy strikes me as truly ok.

Yes there have been plenty o SCA fighters who've bullied me, dickheads on harleys, etc, but as a whole I can both say that
I can't stand the general culture, and that there are plenty of people who are a part of it who are perfectly decent if taken
individually subculture aside.

Which is not to say I don't leap out of my skin every time a biker shoots past me on the freeway

I live in Australia and we don't have jocks but do we have an equivalent of them. Most people would refer to them as the "popular kids", they would usually go to house parties, drink etc. Being a socially awkward aspie at the time I didn't go to parties instead I liked to read books and stay home. So by doing this I considered different and singled out. They were some pretty mean people

Am I weird in actually knowing a lot of autistic jocks? (Not all jocks are rowdy partying types after all.)

I'm severely annoyed by large groups of jocks in close proximity to me (such as in a classroom), but if they are far enough away (such as at a football game) I can at least get a laugh at some of the stupid stuff they can do.

Intensely focused on playing a particular sport, memorizing endless statistics?

That's the only way I could see it happening. I enjoy playing sports unless I lose at them, and I always do, unless you count ping pong. Never had any desire to watch sports; so I'm supposed to watch people I've never met play the same game over and over and care about whether they win or lose? Nope, sorry.

Strange, I would "get in trouble" with some jocks,
I have a mouth on me and when they engege
in this shinttalk, I would mouth off like
"Ok buttfart." or "Your mother" in responce
to "you gay or something?" Just for example.

Most of them would laff along with my
mouthiness and either they'd have
a sense of humour and we'd sit around
telling dirty jokes or they'd just leave me be.

Just a few of them would get stupid on me
and get "The Shock Treatment".

The shock treatment was about 50,000 volts
at about 20Hz delivered by two probes aprox
4-6 inches apart applied to the nerve cluster
above the belly area, this stiffened them like
a board, and felled them like a tree when the
voltage was applied for aprox one minute.

I still cannot control my mouth very weii, but
this is why I carry "The Shocker" to defend
myself. In case of of those boogerfaces
is a psycho killer and figures he is going
to "kick my arse" because he cannot take
what he delivers.

What exactly is a Jock? Is it people that are into sports?

I am the same. I actually used to date this one 6'6" german soccer-star/ body builder who collected medieval weaponry. We used to watch british comedy and talk in Markla. He was captain of his state soccer club and on a scholarship at uni for soccer. Yep huge jerk there.

Actually most men (and women) I have dated or slept with could be considered jocks. BUT They have all been incredibly nerdy too.

Saying that someone is "less then" due to a nature of their interests or who they are friends with is little better then racism.

In my country we don't have jocks. I think.