"I have Asperger's" is no excuse.

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28 May 2011, 1:40 pm

I think AS can be used as a reason for having messed up in the past, but I don't believe it should be used as an excuse not to try and learn the missing skills for the future.

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28 May 2011, 1:59 pm

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"I have Asperger's" is no excuse. If a kid says something rude to you, you tell them why it was rude and why they shouldn't do that. If an adult does the same, and you rebuff them, and they just say "I have Asperger's, so I do that," then you tell them to go f**k themselves. If they say "oh, sorry..." then you accept their apology. People with Asperger's can learn social skills and not be a jerk. People can overcome it through effort and practice, so using it to excuse as*hole behavior is BS.

But you're not being an as*hole if you don't know you're doing something wrong. It's not about knowing the rules and then breaking them anyway, it's about breaking rules that you never knew existed. Add that to the fact that nts would rather bring on the personal insults than help you out and let you know what you're doing wrong and the misunderstandings just keep coming.

Sure enough, and then we have new opportunities to learn and to do what we can so we do not offend in the same ways in the future. For example:

I know a man who wears a colostomy bag, and there is nothing he can do about the occasional sound of involuntary activity there. However, he does not take that fact as license to *not* still do whatever he actually *can* to make the entire experience of being near him just as pleasant for everyone as humanly possible.

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30 May 2011, 9:48 pm

Hey guys. Mind if I drop something here? Let me fetch it out of my knapsack. Here
*places it upon countertop*
This should make up for the wrongs I've caused you guys. Anyways, I have to go! My mum(lolwut he's liek 20) is taking me to see The Hangover Part 2!
*Waves and clumsily steps over threshold of the front door*

*camera pans to card on the desk*

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30 May 2011, 10:11 pm

Was the awkward stumbling to the punchline a delicious layer to your joke?

You could've posted the card with nothing else needed. :wink:

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30 May 2011, 10:24 pm

wefunction wrote:

Was the awkward stumbling to the punchline a delicious layer to your joke?

You could've posted the card with nothing else needed. :wink:

A bit of roleplay doesn't hurt anyone

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30 May 2011, 11:46 pm

NarcissusSavage wrote:

Seph wrote:

I'm emotionally triggered right now so, please, take this post in stride.

Daryl_Blonder wrote:

If you don't know what to say, don't say anything at all.

I find this dehumanizing.

I've been essentially mute for 34 years and you're telling me to not say anything at all?

No... just no.

I agree. No one ever "Knows what to say". What does that statement even mean? It's rhetoric. Garbage recycled by parents without original thought in an attempt to socially bandaid thier childrens communication missteps. It's rediculous too, without making mistakes and just remaining silent, you will not learn or grow, your opinions and contributions will remain unheard.

Sorry if this offended you... maybe you're misinterpreting it a bit... but, when you say the "wrong" thing or "slip up" the results can be disastrous and this for me has been a general rule of thumb that has served me well and prevented a lot of problems.

I'm not mute, I just don't say much to people until I'm comfortable around them.

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31 May 2011, 1:10 am

Daryl_Blonder wrote:

I was probably reading things too negatively and reacting too strongly when this thread went around due to depression. I still stand by the principle of what I was trying to say though. I find it extemely bad taste to say blanket statements about how people use Asperger's and ASD as an excuse without regard to the fact that there are lower functioning people out there. I do understand the point trying to be made though.

My disasters have come from not speaking up when I really needed to. And I'm not mute mute. Just effectively mute. I still talk some.

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31 May 2011, 1:18 am

Seph wrote:

Daryl_Blonder wrote:

On a more humorous note, if you are able to tell anyone you want to f*ck off and have no repercussions, then you have succeeded in life.

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31 May 2011, 1:24 am

Daryl_Blonder wrote:

On a more humorous note, if you are able to tell anyone you want to f*ck off and have no repercussions, then you have succeeded in life.

lol I'll have to add that to my list of goals in life. :wink:

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31 May 2011, 1:49 am

AMEN BROTHER BROTHER

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31 May 2011, 5:38 am

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:

Try to substitute gentler words for vulgar ones. I know they feel good, but can get you in trouble...

Otherwise, I agree with you.

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31 May 2011, 5:58 am

I agree with the statement, "We shouldn't use our diagnoses as an escuse. We should take personal responsibility for our actions."

I disagree with the statement, "Go f... yourself for saying you have asperger's when you screw up."

Am I the only one that see the difference between the two? Am I the only one that this thread infuriates?

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31 May 2011, 11:22 am

Seph wrote:

The OP is a self-confessed troll.

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31 May 2011, 11:33 am

Seph wrote:

Am I the only one that see the difference between the two? Am I the only one that this thread infuriates?

You're likely not the only one to get mad over the OP, but I'd concentrate on the productive discussion that's followed for pages. Why argue with a troll that won't return when you can participate in a productive discussion about an actual topic?

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31 May 2011, 11:38 am

^^^ Absolutely.

Nothing better than when a troll turns into a rational discussion. I suppose that gets rather boring for the troll quite quickly.

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31 May 2011, 1:57 pm

I haven't noticed anymore posts by him. I wonder if he got banned or left?

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