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02 Oct 2012, 10:01 am

aussiebloke wrote:
WONDERING ABOUT B9' S COGNITIVE DISSONANCE.

no need to wonder. i am a hypocrite in your opinion and i can not dispel that.


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So much concern for the spider yet off he goes to the servo for a sausage roll
i have never bought a sausage roll from a service station. they are not of good quality. i like cake shop sausage rolls because the puff pastry is very flaky and delicate and the filling is not infested with spices to compensate for the lack of proper meat.

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* I thought he said he doesn't like "fake meat" what constitutes a sausage roll I wonder
if you worded your replies in a distinct manner then i would be able to respond more easily. i can not remember talking about "fake" meat and i do not think i ever have done so because i never have thought about fake meat in the context you refer to, but i will in a few seconds.

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:!:
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well lets just say I've had many meat eaters tell me the vegetarian equivalent tastes very similar some have said it tastes better!

i do not like the taste of meat substitutes. soy protein is not palatable to me and i do not like it.

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OH well another day another "export" scandal , didn't happen "safe guards" so on and so forth.
i have no idea what you are trying to say, but by default, i disagree.

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No offense :oops:

you had the option of removing whatever you wanted to from your post before you posted it, so it is futile to say "no offense" because your post was not composed in the compressed duration of real time conversation, and you were not compelled to post what you say "no offense" about.

i do not like the winking icons you often use because they seem arrogant in a way that implies that you think you have automatically prevailed in a debate prior to alternative inquiry.

for someone who claims to be so removed from the social protocol that you detest, you use a lot of "winking" icons which seem to convey a premature "checkmate buddy!!" type of sentiment.

also the blushing icon you used in this post to me seems very insincere.

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with a chocolate milk jesus with all that sugar and "additives" you might as well have the plant based drink you wont notice the difference, seriously.(except improved health that is)
you live with a boring palate in my opinion.
i am quite healthy and your diatribe founded upon the fallacy of my ill health is ineffective.

so now i am clear of the maze of responding to your comments i will say this (which i have said before):

i eat meat because the meat i buy is already dead. whether it goes into my stomach or someone else's is insignificant. i know the argument that my purchasing meat contributes to the market demand for meat, but if i stop eating meat, there will always still be steaks and sausages available to the same degree.

i may eat 2-3 cows in my whole life, and since millions of them are slaughtered each day, then there may be billions of them slaughtered throughout my lifetime, and there will not be 3 less cows slaughtered during my life if i did not eat meat. the market is not that sensitive.

i do not like how cows and chickens etc are treated, and i do feel appalled (hypocritically)
by the fact that their lives are sacrificed for a simple meal that humans defecate a few days later.

if i lived separate to society, i would never kill a cow or a chicken so i could eat them, but the racks are lined with already slaughtered animals, and i need meat to be healthy.

in an ideal world, meat would be grown from stem cells (in a laboratory) from animals that did not lose their lives (or even suffer from the extraction of a single cell from their bodies) to grow thousands of tons of meat.

i only eat free range eggs, and those eggs are sterile because there are no roosters in egg farms, so no life is lost.

actually i can not be bothered to talk about this much more because your mind is strange.

do you think i would be less hypocritical and therefore more wholesome if i just stepped on the spider?

i think you may have a tendency to make examples of people who you feel are lower functioning than you, but i am not in your world so go on your crusade to other more highly functioning members who also eat meat (the majority).

honestly, i felt very strongly to save the little spiders life and you denigrate my post because you feel i may be an easy target to step up on to bugle your righteousness.

have you no identification that i liked that little spider because i drink milk and eat meat?

whatever. i think your mind is incompatible with mine and i have nothing more to say.

i am very tired and i can not be bothered to refine my post so it is more eloquent



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02 Oct 2012, 12:43 pm

@ b9 and aussiebloke

i do realise that this is your conversation and my opinion has not been asked for but id like to state it anyway.

i do agree on the fact that my choice to not eat dead animals alone does not make a difference for the industrial meat supply and that probably no lives will be spared just because of me. i do however choose not to eat dead animals because i think that it is illogical to ignore ones ethical principle (the ethical principle being that the personal luxury of eating meat does not justify killing an animal) just because doing otherwise would have little effect as long as other people violate it too. it does require quite a number of people to not eat animals to decrease the killing itself, but i can only make a decision for myself and i want to be one of them and not one of those who decide not to add to it just because they wouldnt change anything alone. nevertheless i would not accuse a person who values living according to his or her liking more than a principle as it is their decision and i care for their wellbeing too.

seeing meat in the supermarket breaks my heart in the same way as seeing an animal being killed in front of me and i do not think about food when im sad. i can not understand how some people manage to make an emotional distinction between those two things since both equal the death of an animal and it is irrelevant to my sadness about that whether or not i have been present to witness its death itself. i always wondered about that.

i think aussieblokes "no offence" comment meant that it was not his intention to offend b9 but i do not know that of course. neither being vegan, vegetarian nor carnivorous is healthy or unhealthy per se, this depends on the proportions of fats, proteins, vitamines, salts and carbohydrates in the diet. similarily, the taste of soy meat mostly depends on how well someone is able to cook.

thank you aussiebloke for not eating meat and thank you b9 for saving the spider. i was glad to read about that because im always sincerely glad to see that some people do have respect for nonhuman animals.



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02 Oct 2012, 6:35 pm

Live and let live I suppose.

Even though I will never get it, funny how B9 accuses me of a bland palate what an insult :D did you know all meat and dairy does is dull the palate.? (fact) Things like Grilled asparagus will never taste so good , unladden with out all that gunk, instead why not have it with garlic, olive oil , crispy caper, herb dressing instead? Had it last night thats why I mention it.

But you will never ever know about these things I suppose. :o

Again live and let live .


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03 Oct 2012, 12:50 am

I was watching Hoarders with my parents the other night. I identified one of the people as high functioning autistic and the psychologist later told one of the family members she suspected he was autistic spectrum. I had to spike the football and say "Told ya so!" to my mom. I also correctly identified the other person on the show as OCD before they announced it.


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04 Oct 2012, 10:49 am

I put my hands over my ears today in my history class when the noise got too loud before stimming for the rest of the lesson. I got kept behind for not doing any work. My day didn't start to well either as I forgot my favorite pen and had a small meltdown before lesson 1 started. Hopefully tomorrow will be better!



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04 Oct 2012, 12:24 pm

My last one was probably in my Spanish class on Monday - we were having an oral exam, which involved us pairing off with one another and asking each other a series of questions.

One of the questions I was asked was (translated from Spanish): "What does your best friend look like?."

....I don't HAVE a best friend. I never have (not a real one, anyway); and that was only the gazillionth time I'd been reminded of that fact.

I almost started crying right there in front of my partner and the Spanish professor. :cry:

After class finally ended, I just went back to my dorm room, lay on my bed, and sobbed.


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04 Oct 2012, 12:44 pm

A fairly mean one, recently...

I was originally going to go to my cousin's birthday party, we had had some texting contact prior, and she had arrived in Amsterdam to pick me up (and to see some other relatives who wouldn't maqke ti to her birthday party, so don't worry).

And at the moment that I had come from work to my aunt's house where everyone was all set to depart with my cousin, I flat out tell her that I had changed my mind, I wasn't coming, because (and I quote myself verbatim): "I have been listening to inane conversations of my coworkers at work all week now, and I really want to spend my weekend in intelligent company, such as myself, or an internet message board" implying that I would not find intelligent conversation at her birthday party.

It's such a jerk move, but I just blurted it out because of how exhausted I was from spending energy into conversing with my new coworker. I just didn't want to be forced to socialise at that party. I know how it went down the last time I was present, and I wasn't up to repeating that. I realise full well that it was her day, and that it meant something to her for me to attend her party, but I would have been in the lousiest of moods going in, so I didn't predict it ending well.

But I realise I was an ass and I am ever so very sorry for what I said.


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04 Oct 2012, 4:34 pm

I had just realized today the girl behind me in High School was flirting.

I was under the impression that her taps on my shoulder and her disingenuous questions were to get me to turn around so she could gaze into my eyes--- she'd get lost into my aura and her eyes were the eyes of being 'mesmerized' and she did this throughout the grade. I originally thought she was simply 'attracted' and was taking a closer peek; but she was vying for my attention..................... :lol:


I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at this here. It's pretty dumb, even for a 15/16 year old.



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04 Oct 2012, 5:55 pm

I rocked back and forth and flapped my hands a little when on this forum.


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06 Oct 2012, 7:16 pm

I dunno if this was an ASD thing:

Mom hands me her glass of drink and tells me it was ginger ale and it taste good. She tells me to have a taste. I have a taste and it tasted horrible. I said "Eeeee this tastes nasty, is there wine in it?" I had to go in the living room and eat some more snacks to get rid of the smell and then I realized "Was I just rude? I said something bad about her drink?" I remember reading on here how rude it is to talk bad about what people made or give you, does that also imply drinks? I just wasn't thinking at the time and I totally forgot all about it when it happened.


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06 Oct 2012, 8:30 pm

LtlPinkCoupe wrote:
My last one was probably in my Spanish class on Monday - we were having an oral exam, which involved us pairing off with one another and asking each other a series of questions.

One of the questions I was asked was (translated from Spanish): "What does your best friend look like?."

....I don't HAVE a best friend. I never have (not a real one, anyway); and that was only the gazillionth time I'd been reminded of that fact.

I almost started crying right there in front of my partner and the Spanish professor. :cry:

After class finally ended, I just went back to my dorm room, lay on my bed, and sobbed.

I know this feeling it really sucks, it just really destroys any momentum of the day.



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09 Oct 2012, 9:09 am

i'm having issues answering my essay questions because i can't understand them because they are too vaguely worded. i mean i know the seem straight forward but i'm interpreting them so many ways. why couldnt they be precisely worded? i've been trying to figure them out the whole day and now it is 1:09am and i'm going to e-mail the teacher and ask. what if she doesnt know though? i mean it was the students who came up with them.



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09 Oct 2012, 11:27 am

When I grabbed a package of bread from the freezer it had something sticky on it but I didn't have time to find something else to put it in or to wash my hands, so I spent the entire car ride to work fiddling with my sticky fingers.


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09 Oct 2012, 12:34 pm

Last night I was playing Warcraft and was in an area above my level, but still thought I could do it and forgot how far below it I was. I kept getting killed and was sitting on the couch rocking and muttering. Finally, my husband asked me what was wrong. I opened my mouth and nothing came out. He gave me a minute, then tried again. "Ok, what are you trying to do?" I couldn't say "I'm trying to retrieve the samples to take back to the little gnome and kill the evil satyr before he poisons the rest of the bears." Nothing like that would come out. I finally managed to spit out "Killing s***!" and sounded seriously pissed.

Finally, he asked what level I was, sent me a group invitation, and summoned me to a more level-appropriate area.



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10 Oct 2012, 8:49 pm

Imagine you are in social setting, sitting, and a girl walks up to you and asks: "Do I know you?" I said: No, I don't think so.



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11 Oct 2012, 2:45 am

So Im in lab looking for something the other day. My lab mate walks in greets me, I turn around and say "oh" because I was so focused that I could not muster a hi off the top of my head.