My mom is always asking me to stop flapping my hands

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27 Oct 2013, 5:04 pm

I've flapped my hands since I was 11, and I do it when I'm excited and sometimes a little bit when I'm stressed, but only at home. Unless something happens that causes me to do it in public, but I usually hide it. I know it's a bit annoying, but it helps me relieve excessive excitement and stress. But my mom always says "Relax, stop flapping your hands and just relax." :roll: I realize she is trying to help, but if I hold it in, it's going to burst or I become really annoyed. This is just a part of me that can't be held down, and I've tried to hold it down. But fortunately, it's not as bad as it used to be. :D

Should I just try and stop flapping my hands or try to make my mom understand that I can't just stop it?



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27 Oct 2013, 5:25 pm

Are you one of those aspies who have had different stims throughout their life? You do one stim and then you stop doing it and start doing something else ans then you outgrow that stim and do another stim.


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27 Oct 2013, 5:32 pm

J-H-H wrote:
"Relax, stop flapping your hands and just relax."


Translation: your flapping is making me stressed. lol

I think this is what she is trying to say. You may want to experiment with less attention drawing stims. I'm big on clicking my nails - still annoying, but physically less threatening.



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27 Oct 2013, 5:48 pm

I don't know about this - on one hand, people get all obsessed with stimming and how weird it is and labeling it, but on the other hand I think it's pretty cool that you are able to flap your arms when you get excited - it's just a physical expression of your feeling, not some bad thing.

But if you are doing it for a long time or making noises, etc., I can see how it would be annoying.

Maybe if you just do it for a short time, or step into another room. I've never done that so I have no idea how noisy or disruptive it is or how long one might do it.



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27 Oct 2013, 5:58 pm

People have often given me grief about my most common stim, an elliptical, side-to-side swaying, like Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles. Long before I heard of AS and got diagnosed, people would say things like "You're making me dizzy, could you stop that? What are you, autistic?" Duh. Fact is, I can stop it for a few seconds, but as you noted, it then stresses me out to forcibly stand still and after a few moments, it will resume on it's own, like it or not.

It's either that, or rocking back and forth on my heels and toes and I'm sure somebody would complain about that, too. Screw them, I yam what I yam and I'll do whatever keeps me calm. The only time I can be still is when my mind is focused on something, like reading or drawing. If I'm just standing around, I'm immediately overwhelmed by anxiety and I have to burn off that energy somehow. When I was a child, I could run around in circles, whoop and holler and have fake epileptic seizures on the floor, but as an adult, you can't get away with that. So I'll rock and sway, thank you very much.



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27 Oct 2013, 5:59 pm

If you only do it privately, then it's not really a problem. Maybe you could explain to your mom why you do it.



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27 Oct 2013, 6:11 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
J-H-H wrote:
"Relax, stop flapping your hands and just relax."


Translation: your flapping is making me stressed. lol

I think this is what she is trying to say. You may want to experiment with less attention drawing stims. I'm big on clicking my nails - still annoying, but physically less threatening.


I agree completely with the translation! However, if my son were to start clicking his nails I'd start screaming! The flapping doesn't bother me at all, but clicking sounds - aaaaargh!



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27 Oct 2013, 6:11 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
J-H-H wrote:
"Relax, stop flapping your hands and just relax."


Translation: your flapping is making me stressed. lol

I think this is what she is trying to say. You may want to experiment with less attention drawing stims. I'm big on clicking my nails - still annoying, but physically less threatening.


I agree completely with the translation! However, if my son were to start clicking his nails I'd start screaming! The flapping doesn't bother me at all, but clicking sounds - aaaaargh!



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27 Oct 2013, 6:15 pm

You should tell your mum that your body movements are none of her business. If your behaviour were aggressive or dangerous or threatening to other people, then of course people would have a right to ask you to stop. e.g. if you were hitting your mum, then of course she could ask you to stop. But if you are not hurting anyone by flapping your hands, and are merely expressing excitement, then in my opinion she has no more right to ask to you stop flapping than you have the right to order her to join in and start flapping her hands as well.

I seriously feel it is an outrage that NTs feel they have the right to order us to stop being ourselves. My family are always trying to turn me into a censored version of who I really am. "Don't talk in a baby voice. Don't stick your tongue out when concentrating. Don't do this. Don't do that." I do not see my family any more because they make me so angry and stressed with all their constant commands not to do this or that. :evil:



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27 Oct 2013, 6:24 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
J-H-H wrote:
"Relax, stop flapping your hands and just relax."


Translation: your flapping is making me stressed. lol

I think this is what she is trying to say. You may want to experiment with less attention drawing stims. I'm big on clicking my nails - still annoying, but physically less threatening.

Yeah.

A few years ago under total stress I started flapping my hands and shifting from one foot to the other while crying. "What's wrong?" said my daughter. "I'm flapping, can't cope" said I, and she took control, looked after me.

Never done this in front of anyone else - she's safe; most people aren't.

I've learnt to stim in ways that others don't notice; that don't make them feel stressed. Under intense social stress I cross my fingers behind my back hard, grit my teeth and scream inside. It doesn't give me the release that flapping does but it doesn't draw attention.



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27 Oct 2013, 6:43 pm

J-H-H wrote:
I've flapped my hands since I was 11, and I do it when I'm excited and sometimes a little bit when I'm stressed, but only at home. Unless something happens that causes me to do it in public, but I usually hide it. I know it's a bit annoying, but it helps me relieve excessive excitement and stress. But my mom always says "Relax, stop flapping your hands and just relax." :roll: I realize she is trying to help, but if I hold it in, it's going to burst or I become really annoyed. This is just a part of me that can't be held down, and I've tried to hold it down. But fortunately, it's not as bad as it used to be. :D

Should I just try and stop flapping my hands or try to make my mom understand that I can't just stop it?


I have the same problem with bouncing my legs and scratching my skin. My mom complains about it constantly when I come home. In my opinion you need to tell your mom that it's not something that you can control.I get that bursting feeling when I stop too and it messes with my self-regulation. I dont think it practical to go through life constantly monitoring yourself.I mean it's not like having these stims was a matter of choice in the first place so why would you be expected to remove them through choice?



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27 Oct 2013, 8:48 pm

Have you been diagnosed? I am asking only because if you have, then your mom definitely knows you are autistic, Is it possible that she is not aware that stims are a healthy thing? And if she does, is it possible that she is not aware that you only do this at home? She might be afraid of you being picked on because of your flapping, particularly if she was also kissed by the autism fairy and is trying to keep you from going through what she has.

Also, I noticed that in families with autistics, there are often family members who are not autistic themselves, but definitely cousins as far as their wiring. If your mom has extreme anxiety issues[ you probably know what that feels like] or is bi-polar, that could make her more likely to lash out at you when she is stressed.

If you are confident that your mom loves you [and the most loving parent makes mistskes] then maybe you should sit down and have a talk with her. Explain what is going on, and if she understands and breaks down in tears for hurting her baby [you] be sure to tell her that you love her and give her a hug.

P.S. Obviously, I'm a mom.



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27 Oct 2013, 8:54 pm

IntellectualCat wrote:
If you only do it privately, then it's not really a problem. Maybe you could explain to your mom why you do it.


I like these ideas - maybe if your mother knew more about the reason why you flap your arms/hands, she would be more understanding.

Something that helps me is carrying a small object or plushie in my pockets or bag and stroking them - you know, like a worry stone or something of that nature.


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27 Oct 2013, 9:11 pm

J-H-H wrote:
I've flapped my hands since I was 11, and I do it when I'm excited and sometimes a little bit when I'm stressed, but only at home. Unless something happens that causes me to do it in public, but I usually hide it. I know it's a bit annoying, but it helps me relieve excessive excitement and stress. But my mom always says "Relax, stop flapping your hands and just relax." :roll: I realize she is trying to help, but if I hold it in, it's going to burst or I become really annoyed. This is just a part of me that can't be held down, and I've tried to hold it down. But fortunately, it's not as bad as it used to be. :D

Should I just try and stop flapping my hands or try to make my mom understand that I can't just stop it?


Show her your thread-starter post. Or, just tell her what you said here- that you feel you'll burst if you don't flap.

To be honest, it sounds like she knows that and isn't really telling you not to flap. She's suggesting you calm down and thus dissolve the cause of the flapping.

Self-control, friend. Self-control. Not easy, but beneficial.


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27 Oct 2013, 11:09 pm

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You should tell your mum that your body movements are none of her business. If your behaviour were aggressive or dangerous or threatening to other people, then of course people would have a right to ask you to stop. e.g. if you were hitting your mum, then of course she could ask you to stop. But if you are not hurting anyone by flapping your hands, and are merely expressing excitement, then in my opinion she has no more right to ask to you stop flapping than you have the right to order her to join in and start flapping her hands as well.

I seriously feel it is an outrage that NTs feel they have the right to order us to stop being ourselves. My family are always trying to turn me into a censored version of who I really am. "Don't talk in a baby voice. Don't stick your tongue out when concentrating. Don't do this. Don't do that." I do not see my family any more because they make me so angry and stressed with all their constant commands not to do this or that. :evil:



Agree whole-heartedly.



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27 Oct 2013, 11:47 pm

You should tell her that you need to do it because it makes you feel comfortable.


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