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13 Nov 2007, 10:43 am

One of our stragies at home is that if I do anything too Aspie it will be pointed out by wife or children.

Sounds fine, except if they ever do( usually a couple of times a day!) I end up arguing and trying to put my point across.

Anyone else have this problem?


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13 Nov 2007, 10:55 am

What do you mean by "too aspie"?

Sometimes when someone points out something I have done wrong I defend myself and take it too far.

Its takes more then one person for there to be an argument so other members of our families must also be to blame.

I try to leave the room when this happens but its hard because i want to make my point. - i need to learn to do this more.



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13 Nov 2007, 10:59 am

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One of our stragies at home is that if I do anything too Aspie it will be pointed out by wife or children.

Sounds fine, except if they ever do( usually a couple of times a day!) I end up arguing and trying to put my point across.

Anyone else have this problem?


No.

Wow. Your children? That sounds like a heap of emotional incest, even if your children are adults! Has your family tried some kind of counseling by a professional, who might at least be aware of the traits you have, that are being called "Aspie"?

Quite frankly, I hate that term as there is no such thing, as far as I can tell. It was coined by that woman who works with Dr. Attwood, and her name escapes me at the moment. Perhaps to identify all those who might have been misdiagnosed over the years? In which case from what you've shared, you really need to get professional help for that form of emotional abuse, to have you reduced to a subordinate, instead of a parent. Yikes!



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13 Nov 2007, 11:09 am

Must admit to not liking the term Aspie either but used it here as it seems to used commonly here.

They are actually step children. 10, 13 and 18. Always been very honest with them about me. My wife, their mother is a teacher so well trained on ASD.

The child are used to having ASD children at their schools and are actually very supportive of me.

Perhaps arguments are too strong a term perhaps disagreements would be better.


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13 Nov 2007, 11:12 am

I operate under similar conditions from day to day. No kids around but if I do something that is considered outside the social norms I get a quick reminder from the girlfriend. After seven years we're still together so it must be working.

Ed Almos



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13 Nov 2007, 11:14 am

fangfarrier wrote:
Must admit to not liking the term Aspie either but used it here as it seems to used commonly here.

They are actually step children. 10, 13 and 18. Always been very honest with them about me. My wife, their mother is a teacher so well trained on ASD.

The child are used to having ASD children at their schools and are actually very supportive of me.

Perhaps arguments are too strong a term perhaps disagreements would be better.


No, I can attest to the fact that teachers and school psychologists are not well trained on ASD's. It appears that many of them might have Bipolar Disorder, and are prone to fits of rage in my presence. As a matter-of-fact, during a due process event, the school district didn't know they hired a prior active-duty USAF behaviorist, that was appalled by their ignorance. Oh the stories!



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13 Nov 2007, 11:18 am

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I operate under similar conditions from day to day. No kids around but if I do something that is considered outside the social norms I get a quick reminder from the girlfriend. After seven years we're still together so it must be working.

Ed Almos


Wow. Is she a Dominatrix?



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13 Nov 2007, 11:25 am

LadyBug wrote:
fangfarrier wrote:
Must admit to not liking the term Aspie either but used it here as it seems to used commonly here.

They are actually step children. 10, 13 and 18. Always been very honest with them about me. My wife, their mother is a teacher so well trained on ASD.

The child are used to having ASD children at their schools and are actually very supportive of me.

Perhaps arguments are too strong a term perhaps disagreements would be better.


No, I can attest to the fact that teachers and school psychologists are not well trained on ASD's. It appears that many of them might have Bipolar Disorder, and are prone to fits of rage in my presence. As a matter-of-fact, during a due process event, the school district didn't know they hired a prior active-duty USAF behaviorist, that was appalled by their ignorance. Oh the stories!


Must admit not all teachers are but due to some children that had been in her class a few years ago, she is quite knowedgeable and then living with me has made her more interested and we have attended some courses together, her in her work role, me in mine.


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13 Nov 2007, 11:30 am

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LadyBug wrote:
fangfarrier wrote:
Must admit to not liking the term Aspie either but used it here as it seems to used commonly here.

They are actually step children. 10, 13 and 18. Always been very honest with them about me. My wife, their mother is a teacher so well trained on ASD.

The child are used to having ASD children at their schools and are actually very supportive of me.

Perhaps arguments are too strong a term perhaps disagreements would be better.


No, I can attest to the fact that teachers and school psychologists are not well trained on ASD's. It appears that many of them might have Bipolar Disorder, and are prone to fits of rage in my presence. As a matter-of-fact, during a due process event, the school district didn't know they hired a prior active-duty USAF behaviorist, that was appalled by their ignorance. Oh the stories!


Must admit not all teachers are but due to some children that had been in her class a few years ago, she is quite knowedgeable and then living with me has made her more interested and we have attended some courses together, her in her work role, me in mine.


Huh? How can she be, if you're not diagnosed? There is a world of difference between working with children and adults, men and women. Yeah, those workshops seem to advocate a Dominatrix and Subordinate lifestyle, and some of them cost alot of money. I'll bet you'd learn and glean more from a sexologist!

Wow.



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13 Nov 2007, 11:45 am

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fangfarrier wrote:
LadyBug wrote:
fangfarrier wrote:
Must admit to not liking the term Aspie either but used it here as it seems to used commonly here.

They are actually step children. 10, 13 and 18. Always been very honest with them about me. My wife, their mother is a teacher so well trained on ASD.

The child are used to having ASD children at their schools and are actually very supportive of me.

Perhaps arguments are too strong a term perhaps disagreements would be better.


No, I can attest to the fact that teachers and school psychologists are not well trained on ASD's. It appears that many of them might have Bipolar Disorder, and are prone to fits of rage in my presence. As a matter-of-fact, during a due process event, the school district didn't know they hired a prior active-duty USAF behaviorist, that was appalled by their ignorance. Oh the stories!


Must admit not all teachers are but due to some children that had been in her class a few years ago, she is quite knowedgeable and then living with me has made her more interested and we have attended some courses together, her in her work role, me in mine.


Huh? How can she be, if you're not diagnosed? There is a world of difference between working with children and adults, men and women. Yeah, those workshops seem to advocate a Dominatrix and Subordinate lifestyle, and some of them cost alot of money. I'll bet you'd learn and glean more from a sexologist!

Wow.


The only reason I am not yet dignosed is due to a lack of a formal diagnosis process in the area where I live but I have my referral to the National Centre for Asperger's here in Scotland.

Am well aware that they are difference between adult and children, The course were not specific to married couples but to dealing with ASD.

Due to some of my special interests I would suspect I already know a fair amount of what a sexologist might say!


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13 Nov 2007, 11:46 am

fangfarrier wrote:
LadyBug wrote:
fangfarrier wrote:
LadyBug wrote:
fangfarrier wrote:
Must admit to not liking the term Aspie either but used it here as it seems to used commonly here.

They are actually step children. 10, 13 and 18. Always been very honest with them about me. My wife, their mother is a teacher so well trained on ASD.

The child are used to having ASD children at their schools and are actually very supportive of me.

Perhaps arguments are too strong a term perhaps disagreements would be better.


No, I can attest to the fact that teachers and school psychologists are not well trained on ASD's. It appears that many of them might have Bipolar Disorder, and are prone to fits of rage in my presence. As a matter-of-fact, during a due process event, the school district didn't know they hired a prior active-duty USAF behaviorist, that was appalled by their ignorance. Oh the stories!


Must admit not all teachers are but due to some children that had been in her class a few years ago, she is quite knowedgeable and then living with me has made her more interested and we have attended some courses together, her in her work role, me in mine.


Huh? How can she be, if you're not diagnosed? There is a world of difference between working with children and adults, men and women. Yeah, those workshops seem to advocate a Dominatrix and Subordinate lifestyle, and some of them cost alot of money. I'll bet you'd learn and glean more from a sexologist!

Wow.


The only reason I am not yet dignosed is due to a lack of a formal diagnosis process in the area where I live but I have my referral to the National Centre for Asperger's here in Scotland.

Am well aware that they are difference between adult and children, The course were not specific to married couples but to dealing with ASD.

Due to some of my special interests I would suspect I already know a fair amount of what a sexologist might say!



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13 Nov 2007, 11:49 am

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The only reason I am not yet dignosed is due to a lack of a formal diagnosis process in the area where I live but I have my referral to the National Centre for Asperger's here in Scotland.

Am well aware that they are difference between adult and children, The course were not specific to married couples but to dealing with ASD.

Due to some of my special interests I would suspect I already know a fair amount of what a sexologist might say!


Oooooops!

Haha! It's a special interest, eh? Yeah, a sexologist might tell you to find another f**k buddy!



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13 Nov 2007, 11:55 am

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fangfarrier wrote:

The only reason I am not yet dignosed is due to a lack of a formal diagnosis process in the area where I live but I have my referral to the National Centre for Asperger's here in Scotland.

Am well aware that they are difference between adult and children, The course were not specific to married couples but to dealing with ASD.

Due to some of my special interests I would suspect I already know a fair amount of what a sexologist might say!


Oooooops!

Haha! It's a special interest, eh? Yeah, a sexologist might tell you to find another f**k buddy!


If I could find one I would!


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13 Nov 2007, 12:36 pm

Hahahaaaaaaa! Where'd the argument go?



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13 Nov 2007, 1:14 pm

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Hahahaaaaaaa! Where'd the argument go?


You are like the straight(American slang in this case for SERIOUS) person in a comedy act! You now, the one almost like abbot in "who's on first".

Quote:
Abbott: Well Costello, I'm going to New York with you. You know Bucky Harris, the Yankee's manager, gave me a job as coach for as long as you're on the team.

Costello: Look Abbott, if you're the coach, you must know all the players.

Abbott: I certainly do.

Costello: Well you know I've never met the guys. So you'll have to tell me their names, and then I'll know who's playing on the team.

Abbott: Oh, I'll tell you their names, but you know it seems to me they give these ball players now-a-days very peculiar names.

Costello: You mean funny names?

Abbott: Strange names, pet names...like Dizzy Dean...

Costello: His brother Daffy.

Abbott: Daffy Dean...

Costello: And their French cousin.

Abbott: French?

Costello: Goofè.

Abbott: Goofè Dean. Well, let's see, we have on the bags, Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know is on third...

Costello: That's what I want to find out.

Abbott: I say Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third.

Costello: Are you the manager?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: You gonna be the coach too?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: And you don't know the fellows' names?

Abbott: Well I should.

Costello: Well then who's on first?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: I mean the fellow's name.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy on first.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The first baseman.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy playing...

Abbott: Who is on first!

Costello: I'm asking YOU who's on first.

Abbott: That's the man's name.

Costello: That's who's name?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: That's who?

Abbott: Yes.

PAUSE

Costello: Look, you gotta first baseman?

Abbott: Certainly.

Costello: Who's playing first?

Abbott: That's right.

Costello: When you pay off the first baseman every month, who gets the money?

Abbott: Every dollar of it.

Costello: All I'm trying to find out is the fellow's name on first base.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy that gets...

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: Who gets the money...

Abbott: He does, every dollar. Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it.

Costello: Whose wife?

Abbott: Yes.

PAUSE

Abbott: What's wrong with that?

Costello: Look, all I wanna know is when you sign up the first baseman, how does he sign his name?

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: How does he sign...

Abbott: That's how he signs it.

Costello: Who?

Abbott: Yes.

PAUSE

Costello: All I'm trying to find out is what's the guy's name on first base.

Abbott: No. What is on second base.

Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first.

Costello: One base at a time!

Abbott: Well, don't change the players around.

Costello: I'm not changing nobody!

Abbott: Take it easy, buddy.

Costello: I'm only asking you, who's the guy on first base?

Abbott: That's right.

Costello: Ok.

Abbott: All right.

PAUSE

Costello: What's the guy's name on first base?

Abbott: No. What is on second.

Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott: He's on third, we're not talking about him.

Costello: Now how did I get on third base?

Abbott: Why you mentioned his name.

Costello: If I mentioned the third baseman's name, who did I say is playing third?

Abbott: No. Who's playing first.

Costello: What's on first?

Abbott: What's on second.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott: He's on third.

Costello: There I go, back on third again!

PAUSE

Costello: Would you just stay on third base and don't go off it.

Abbott: All right, what do you want to know?

Costello: Now who's playing third base?

Abbott: Why do you insist on putting Who on third base?

Costello: What am I putting on third.

Abbott: No. What is on second.

Costello: You don't want who on second?

Abbott: Who is on first.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott & Costello Together:Third base!

PAUSE

Costello: Look, you gotta outfield?

Abbott: Sure.

Costello: The left fielder's name?

Abbott: Why.

Costello: I just thought I'd ask you.

Abbott: Well, I just thought I'd tell ya.

Costello: Then tell me who's playing left field.

Abbott: Who's playing first.

Costello: I'm not... stay out of the infield! I want to know what's the guy's name in left field?

Abbott: No, What is on second.

Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first!

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott & Costello Together: Third base!

PAUSE

Costello: The left fielder's name?

Abbott: Why.

Costello: Because!

Abbott: Oh, he's centerfield.

PAUSE

Costello: Look, You gotta pitcher on this team?

Abbott: Sure.

Costello: The pitcher's name?

Abbott: Tomorrow.

Costello: You don't want to tell me today?

Abbott: I'm telling you now.

Costello: Then go ahead.

Abbott: Tomorrow!

Costello: What time?

Abbott: What time what?

Costello: What time tomorrow are you gonna tell me who's pitching?

Abbott: Now listen. Who is not pitching.

Costello: I'll break your arm, you say who's on first! I want to know what's the pitcher's name?

Abbott: What's on second.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott & Costello Together: Third base!

PAUSE

Costello: Gotta a catcher?

Abbott: Certainly.

Costello: The catcher's name?

Abbott: Today.

Costello: Today, and tomorrow's pitching.

Abbott: Now you've got it.

Costello: All we got is a couple of days on the team.

PAUSE

Costello: You know I'm a catcher too.

Abbott: So they tell me.

Costello: I get behind the plate to do some fancy catching, Tomorrow's pitching on my team and a heavy hitter gets up. Now the heavy hitter bunts the ball. When he bunts the ball, me, being a good catcher, I'm gonna throw the guy out at first base. So I pick up the ball and throw it to who?

Abbott: Now that's the first thing you've said right.

Costello: I don't even know what I'm talking about!

PAUSE

Abbott: That's all you have to do.

Costello: Is to throw the ball to first base.

Abbott: Yes!

Costello: Now who's got it?

Abbott: Naturally.

PAUSE

Costello: Look, if I throw the ball to first base, somebody's gotta get it. Now who has it?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Who?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Naturally?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: So I pick up the ball and I throw it to Naturally.

Abbott: No you don't, you throw the ball to Who.

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's different.

Costello: That's what I said.

Abbott: You're not saying it...

Costello: I throw the ball to Naturally.

Abbott: You throw it to Who.

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: That's what I said!

Abbott: You ask me.

Costello: I throw the ball to who?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Now you ask me.

Abbott: You throw the ball to Who?

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: Same as you! Same as YOU! I throw the ball to who. Whoever it is drops the ball and the guy runs to second. Who picks up the ball and throws it to What. What throws it to I Don't Know. I Don't Know throws it back to Tomorrow, Triple play. Another guy gets up and hits a long fly ball to Because. Why? I don't know! He's on third and I don't give a darn!

Abbott: What?

Costello: I said I don't give a darn!

Abbott: Oh, that's our shortstop.



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13 Nov 2007, 3:06 pm

Can you explain that better? Yes, I'm getting you have a moto going on, a slang for having your fancy tickled. I indeed can be funny in all seriousness, according to years of feedback from others. Further telling me they would have it no other way. I don't resemble Abbot, as I have titties not fatties.