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26 Apr 2008, 5:47 pm

Call a teen with borderline AS an apspie, and then he starts to act even more like one.

I've found this negative cycle, bringing me back to websites like, indulging that negative critical guy in my head and making me feel even more depressed, once I associate myself with AS I start to lose my sense of identity and sense of self. I get unstable and moody, everyday feels the same. Asperger's sucks me in because I was diagnosed with it when I was a kid, it brings back horrible memories of a time when I was completely different, daydreaming, inhibited, unable to fight back, that's not me, he's dead. I killed him. I don't want people to know he existed. I'm the polar opposite of what he was. Hell my mom's an autistic specialist and doesn't think I've got it.
This is the reason why I plan to leave here, it will be hard because I enjoyed my short time here, I associate with bipolar disorder more, it fits my symptoms more, my dad has it, a couple of generations back on my dad's side is Ernest Hemmingway who was said to have had it.

I don't know, I guess in the end I've got to suck it up, move on, get out of my depression and now get the hell back to school.

Goodbye for now guys/gals.

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26 Apr 2008, 5:48 pm

Bye. Sorry to see you go.


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28 Apr 2008, 10:14 am

I might stay around for a little bit longer, I'll see.



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28 Apr 2008, 10:19 am

ye, I hope you have a great life. All the best.



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28 Apr 2008, 10:28 am

Give a person any label...and it begins to consume that person. It is called the self-fulfilling prophecy.



28 Apr 2008, 5:10 pm

So were you misdiagnosed with AS or did you outgrew it?



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28 Apr 2008, 9:44 pm

Spokane_Girl wrote:
So were you misdiagnosed with AS or did you outgrew it?


This article might be relevant.

Particularly the part that reads:

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For others getting a label has rocked their world, causing detachment from those they once were able to relate to, withdrawal from activities which once gave belonging and pleasure. And its not so simple as pooh-poohing these folk as though they just fear being 'abnormal', 'disabled' or 'like those people with AUTISM'. It can be something much simpler. In turning up the lights on being a label, someone who is monotracked, capable of pinpointed obsessional focus to the exclusion of all else, suddenly illuminating themselves as a label, means they lose sight of that most important but mostly assumed and never spoken of other label - being a person, a human being, among other diverse and unique human beings.


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28 Apr 2008, 11:49 pm

... but only if he wants to be one, or he really is one.

Every human in the world could tell me that I'm not a human, so I should stop acting like one. No matter how I act, and no matter what people think, I'll still be a human--the same I've always been.



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29 Apr 2008, 12:52 am

I struggled with my ADD/HD diagnosis the first time I got it back in 94 or so.
It wasn't until after my second diagnosis that I finally started to come around to believing the voices in my head that were telling me that I WAS trying hard to make myself be just like everyone else.

I can only say that my diagnosis is not a self-fulfilling prophecy for me.

Instead, today... I use it to help other people understand that I am the way I am.
I am not going to be better at watching the clock and keeping track of time.
I am not going to be able to focus on one task for 'just the right amount of time' before moving on to the next task.
I am not going to be able to organize my life like I see so many other people be so successful at.

Instead...

I am going to continue to enjoy life in my own unique manner.
I am going to continue to notice little things that other people miss.
I am going to be able to hear things that go unnoticed by other people.
I am going to be able to pick up any musical instrument (so far anyway) and figure out how to play a simple song on it, or a more difficult song... the very first time I have ever held it.
I am going to be able to do many things that other people seem to have difficulty doing or have that awareness of my surroundings that so many 'normal' people do not.

Until the medical world changes it's tune about this so-called disorders and syndromes... I'll still tell folks about my ADD/HD when I feel it might help them understand... simple folks that they are :wink: ... but to me, I am normal and my brain actually functions just fine.
It's just that the society I live in doesn't want to allow me too much freedom to do things the way I know I will be most successful at.

Eh... maybe I'll meet them half-way. :shrug: :P


eta: I should have also put in here... I wish you well and hope you can finally get to a point in life where labels are secondary to just plain understanding who/what you are and how you best perform in life... and I hope you find happiness with it all! :wink:


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29 Apr 2008, 9:51 am

Yea gotta agree.................................

Ive changed MASSIVELY since..

finding out about aspergers last year.....................

I seem to be constantly thinking about aspergers ALMOST FIXATED ON IT :(

mmm before I used to daydream more....

Think about assignments... Now I think about aspergers far more...... and my way of life has changed dramaticly!! !
Like i didnt know what the word anxiety meant.. I assuemed but yeah..." now i know and now i am..." quote kiwi 2008 haha anyone else said that before quite powerful i thought :P (haha yea im tired)
I know therefore I am" haha.. hmm.. interesting making up quotes... I did this before I knew about aspergers all be it :D
Perhaps endevaour of being famous and... gifting the world intelligant remarks philospohies etc..

OK THAT SIDE TRACKED>>>...

I couldnt agree more..." Call a man a criminal and he starts to act like one....."
Wise words eh...! !

I might try and start a post or something about... "Capturing your past inner aspie/ un diagnosed aspieness..."
I need to regather AND RETHINK to think of how i was once.. and go back there.. well half there half etc.. hmm

others changed dramaticly??



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29 Apr 2008, 10:05 am

wsmac wrote:
I struggled with my ADD/HD diagnosis the first time I got it back in 94 or so.



eta: I should have also put in here... I wish you well and hope you can finally get to a point in life where labels are secondary to just plain understanding who/what you are and how you best perform in life... and I hope you find happiness with it all! :wink:


HD? yea sorry.... tired.. not thinking...

That last bit I found interesting because............................................ I find my label explains me quite well.. NO THATS A LIE>.. but i feel i can reflect so well with it.. like there so many correlations..(so many points which explain me)

... It was shocking to read last year.. That there was a label for they way to describe me.. I've down online asperger tests where they asked me questions can you blow bubbles with chewing gum WHICH was weird but maybe all aspies cant haha well some I bet can :P....

BUT aspergers doesnt represent me fully as I am Sociable.. ha Like to think that anyway.... Not as quiet as some NT "quiet/Shy" people....

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For others getting a label has rocked their world, causing detachment from those they once were able to relate to, withdrawal from activities which once gave belonging and pleasure.

Yea true for me withdrawl from team sports but... what does that mean.. What does that quote mean.. I dont want to know im a textbook example...

"means they lose sight of that most important but mostly assumed and never spoken of other label - being a person, a human being, among other diverse and unique human beings."

WOW IM a human being how exciting I should fixate on this... WHat are the symptons of being a human being :P????????????????????????????????????

haha.... Positives strengths of human beings dammit im not a monkey haha.. lol hmmm..



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29 Apr 2008, 10:14 am

Zsazsa wrote:
Give a person any label...and it begins to consume that person. It is called the self-fulfilling prophecy.


So is this like how we are giving labels of being a boy or girl we act in a certain way..?
**Medias view on what we should do... colours we should like eg baby blue and baby pink and green or yellow for either.... clothes we should wear. etc... Perhaps If we are a GOTH.. the label 'goth' we start to dress like that.... believe in that.... become like that... (whatever that is ;)

haha interesting...................... Like yea if we call ourselves human beings... well act in a certain way (haha NO More pollution? morals... question mark...

Mental perception eh....


AND religion too I bet... CHRISTIANS... the bible is, therefore i do.. christians all do this ____therefore i must do this___..

Interesting...

Sheep mentality or its more than that eh.. A want to suffice label...

A want to belong and/or be represented as that....



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30 Apr 2008, 6:08 pm

The funny thing that I've found is that most Aspies accept their label, because it explains something about them. The same article said that most of the ones who don't only do so until about 8 years old, and then finally except it just conforms my belief that it isn't the right diagnosis, if it was I would have accepted it, because it would have explained my problems. It doesn't explain my problems.

It's funny that I'm very sociable with groups of people in real life, but what they used for my diagnosis were tests, which I had some problems similar to those with AS. I don't think doing badly at tests, qualifies as pervasive impairment does it?

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For others getting a label has rocked their world, causing detachment from those they once were able to relate to, withdrawal from activities which once gave belonging and pleasure. And its not so simple as pooh-poohing these folk as though they just fear being 'abnormal', 'disabled' or 'like those people with AUTISM'. It can be something much simpler. In turning up the lights on being a label, someone who is monotracked, capable of pinpointed obsessional focus to the exclusion of all else, suddenly illuminating themselves as a label, means they lose sight of that most important but mostly assumed and never spoken of other label - being a person, a human being, among other diverse and unique human beings.


Great insightful article, except for it being under the arrogant self-righteous pretence that I'm simply in denial. How the **** can they tell me I'm in denial. They don't know me. I guess they just assume that all ASD diagnoses are infallible as apposed to other diagnoses

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So were you misdiagnosed with AS or did you outgrew it?


I out grew it, and nobody tell me that you can't out grow it. I did, end of story. I'm sorry for being mad right now, but people talking assuming that I have AS is my Achilles’ heal, for some other people it's their weight, height, sexual orientation etc.... That sets them off. For that, I'm not immune.