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02 Oct 2008, 4:29 pm

Future Predictions of Raymond Kurzweil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil

The Age of Intelligent Machines (1990)

Early 2000s
Translating telephones allow people to speak to each other in different languages.
Machines designed to transcribe speech into computer text allow deaf people to understand spoken words.
Exoskeletal, robotic leg prostheses allow the paraplegic to walk.
Telephone calls are routinely screened by intelligent answering machines that ask questions to determine the call's nature and priority.
"Cybernetic chauffeurs" can drive cars for humans and can be retrofitted into existing cars. They work by communicating with other vehicles and with sensors embedded along the roads.

Early 21st century
The classroom is dominated by computers. Intelligent courseware that can tailor itself to each student by recognizing their strengths and weaknesses. Media technology allows students to manipulate and interact with virtual depictions of the systems and personalities they are studying.
A small number of highly skilled people dominates the entire production sector. Tailoring of products for individuals is common.
Drugs are designed and tested in simulations that mimic the human body.
Blind people navigate and read text using machines that can visually recognize features of their environment.
Note: Since the "Early 2000s" and "Early 21st century" predictions are both listed before the "2010" predictions in the technology Chronology, it can be assumed that the timeframe for the first two is 2000-2010.


2010
PCs are capable of answering queries by accessing information wirelessly via the Internet.

2020-2050
Phone calls entail three-dimensional holographic images of both people.
By 2020, there will be a new World government.

2020-2070
A computer passes the Turing Test, becoming the first true Artificial Intelligence.
Note: Kurzweil put his money where his mouth was on the Long Bets website, wagering that this prediction will come true. Betting against Mitchell Kapor, founder of Lotus Software Corporation for a payout of $20,000, or $10,000 each.


Centuries hence
Computer intelligence becomes superior to human intelligence in all areas.

The Age of Spiritual Machines (1999)

2019
A $1,000 personal computer has as much raw power as the human brain.
The summed computational powers of all computers is comparable to the total brainpower of the human race.
Computers are embedded everywhere in the environment (inside of furniture, jewelry, walls, clothing, etc.).
People experience 3-D virtual reality through glasses and contact lenses that beam images directly to their retinas (retinal display). Coupled with an auditory source (headphones), users can remotely communicate with other people and access the Internet.
These special glasses and contact lenses can deliver "augmented reality" and "virtual reality" in three different ways. First, they can project "heads-up-displays" (HUDs) across the user's field of vision, superimposing images that stay in place in the environment regardless of the user's perspective or orientation. Second, virtual objects or people could be rendered in fixed locations by the glasses, so when the user's eyes look elsewhere, the objects appear to stay in their places. Third, the devices could block out the "real" world entirely and fully immerse the user in a virtual reality environment.
People communicate with their computers via two-way speech and gestures instead of with keyboards. Furthermore, most of this interaction occurs through computerized assistants with different personalities that the user can select or customize. Dealing with computers thus becomes more and more like dealing with a human being.
Most business transactions or information inquiries involve dealing with a simulated person.
Most people own more than one P.C., though the concept of what a "computer" is has changed considerably: Computers are no longer limited in design to laptops or CPUs contained in a large box connected to a monitor. Instead, devices with computer capabilities come in all sorts of unexpected shapes and sizes.
Cables connecting computers and peripherals have almost completely disappeared.
Rotating computer memories are no longer used.
Three-dimensional nanotube lattices are the dominant computing substrate.
Massively parallel neural nets and genetic algorithms are in wide use.
Destructive scans of the brain and noninvasive brain scans have allowed scientists to understand the brain much better. The algorithms that allow the relatively small genetic code of the brain to construct a much more complex organ are being transferred into computer neural nets.
Pinhead-sized cameras are everywhere.
Nanotechnology is more capable and is in use for specialized applications, yet it has not yet made it into the mainstream. "Nanoengineered machines" begin to be used in manufacturing.
Thin, lightweight, handheld displays with very high resolutions are the preferred means for viewing documents. The aforementioned computer eyeglasses and contact lenses are also used for this same purpose, and all download the information wirelessly.
Computers have made paper books and documents almost completely obsolete.
Most learning is accomplished through intelligent, adaptive courseware presented by computer-simulated teachers. In the learning process, human adults fill the counselor and mentor roles instead of being academic instructors. These assistants are often not physically present, and help students remotely.
Students still learn together and socialize, though this is often done remotely via computers.
All students have access to computers.
Most human workers spend the majority of their time acquiring new skills and knowledge.
Blind people wear special glasses that interpret the real world for them through speech. Sighted people also use these glasses to amplify their own abilities.
Retinal and neural implants also exist, but are in limited use because they are less useful.
Deaf people use special glasses that convert speech into text or signs, and music into images or tactile sensations. Cochlear and other implants are also widely used.
People with spinal cord injuries can walk and climb steps using computer-controlled nerve stimulation and exoskeletal robotic walkers.
Language translating machines are of much higher quality, and are routinely used in conversations.
Access to the Internet is completely wireless and provided by wearable or implanted computers.
Devices that deliver sensations to the skin surface of their users (i.e.--tight body suits and gloves) are also sometimes used in virtual reality to complete the experience. "Virtual sex"--in which two people are able to have sex with each other through virtual reality, or in which a human can have sex with a "simulated" partner that only exists on a computer--becomes a reality.
Just as visual- and auditory virtual reality have come of age, haptic technology has fully matured and is completely convincing, yet requires the user to enter a V.R. booth. It is commonly used for computer sex and remote medical examinations. It is the preferred sexual medium since it is safe and enhances the experience.
Worldwide economic growth has continued. There has not been a global economic collapse.
The vast majority of business interactions occur between humans and simulated retailers, or between a human's virtual personal assistant and a simulated retailer.
Household robots are ubiquitous and reliable.
Computers do most of the vehicle driving—-humans are in fact prohibited from driving on highways unassisted. Furthermore, when humans do take over the wheel, the onboard computer system constantly monitors their actions and takes control whenever the human drives recklessly. As a result, there are very few transportation accidents.
Prototype personal flying vehicles using microflaps exist. They are also primarily computer-controlled.
Humans are beginning to have deep relationships with automated personalities, which hold some advantages over human partners. The depth of some computer personalities convinces some people that they should be accorded more rights.
Public places and workplaces are ubiquitously monitored to prevent violence and all actions are recorded permanently. Personal privacy is a major political issue, and some people protect themselves with unbreakable computer codes.
The basic needs of the underclass are met. (Not specified if this pertains only to the developed world or to all countries)
Computers are also found inside of some humans in the form of cybernetic implants. These are most commonly used by disabled people to regain normal physical faculties (i.e. - Retinal implants allow the blind to see and spinal implants coupled with mechanical legs allow the paralyzed to walk).
Most roads now have automated driving systems--networks of monitoring and communication devices that allow computer-controlled automobiles to safely navigate.
Human-robot relationships begin as simulated personalities become more convincing.
Virtual artists--creative computers capable of making their own art and music--emerge in all fields of the arts.
While a growing number of humans believe that their computers and the simulated personalities they interact with are intelligent to the point of human-level consciousness, experts dismiss the possibility that any could pass the Turing Test.
Ubiquitous connectivity high bandwidth communications connection to the Internet at all times
Interaction with virtual personalities as a primary interface
Effective language technologies (natural language processing, speech recognition, speech synthesis)

2029
A $1,000 personal computer is 1,000 times more powerful than the human brain.
The vast majority of computation is done by computers.
Further progress has been made in understanding the secrets of the human brain. Hundreds of distinct sub-regions with specialized functions have been identified. Some of the algorithms that code for development of these regions have been deciphered and incorporated into neural net computers.
Massively parallel neural nets, which are constructed through reverse-engineering the human brain, are in common use.
The eyeglasses and headphones that used to deliver virtual reality are now obsolete thanks to computer implants that go into the eyes and ears. The implants are either permanent or removable. They allow direct interface with computers, communications and Internet-based applications. The implants are also capable of recording what the user sees and hears.
Computer implants designed for direct connection to the brain are also available. They are capable of augmenting natural senses and of enhancing higher brain functions like memory, learning speed and overall intelligence.
Computers are now capable of learning and creating new knowledge entirely on their own and with no human help. By scanning the enormous content of the Internet, some computers "know" literally every single piece of public information (every scientific discovery, every book and movie, every public statement, etc.) generated by human beings.
Direct brain implants allow users to enter full-immersion virtual reality--with complete sensory stimulation--without any external equipment. People can have their minds in a totally different place at any moment. This technology is in widespread use.
Most communication occurs between humans and machines as opposed to human-to-human.
The manufacturing, agricultural and transportation sectors of the economy are almost entirely automated and employ very few humans. Across the world, poverty, war and disease are almost nonexistent thanks to technology alleviating want.
The rise of Artificial Intelligence creates a real "robot rights" movement, and there is open, public debate over what sorts of civil rights and legal protections machines should have. The existence of humans with heavy levels of cybernetic augmentation and of larger numbers of other people with less extreme cybernetic implants lead to further arguments over what constitutes a "human being."
Although computers routinely pass the Turing Test, controversy still persists over whether machines are as intelligent as humans in all areas.
Artificial Intelligences claim to be conscious and openly petition for recognition of the fact. Most people admit and accept this new truth.
Reverse engineering of the human brain completed
Non-biological intelligence combines the subtlety and pattern recognition strength of human intelligence, with the speed, memory, and knowledge sharing of machine intelligence
Non-biological intelligence will continue to grow exponentially whereas biological intelligence is effectively fixed

2049
Food is commonly "assembled" by nanomachines. This food is externally indistinguishable from "natural" food, but it can be made more wholesome since production can be controlled at the molecular level. This technology decouples food production from climate conditions and the availability of natural resources. [An implication of this is that meat production will no longer require the slaughter of animals.]
The distinction between virtual reality and "real" reality becomes confounded as foglets come into common use, allowing immediate assembly or disassembly of all sorts of physical objects.

2072
Picoengineering (technology on the scale of trillionths of a meter) becomes practical.

2099
The human brain has been completely reverse engineered and all aspects of its functioning are understood.
Natural human thinking possesses no advantages over computer minds.
Machines have attained equal legal status with humans.
Humans and machines merge together in the physical and mental realms. Cybernetic brain implants enable humans to fuse their minds with AI's.
In consequence, clear distinctions between humans and machines no longer exist.
Most conscious beings lack a permanent physical form.
The world is overwhelmingly populated by AI's that exist entirely as thinking computer programs capable of instantly moving from one computer to another across the Internet (or whatever equivalent exists in 2099). These computer-based beings are capable of manifesting themselves at will in the physical world by creating or taking over robotic bodies, with individual AI's also being capable of controlling multiple bodies at once.
Individual beings merge and separate constantly, making it impossible to determine how many “people” there are on Earth.
This new plasticity of consciousness and ability for beings to join minds seriously alters the nature of self-identity.
The majority of interpersonal interactions occur in virtual environments. Actually having two people physically meet in the real world to have a conversation or transact business without any technological interference is very rare.
Organic human beings are a small minority of the intelligent life forms on Earth. Even among the remaining Homo sapiens, the use of computerized implants that heavily augment normal abilities is ubiquitous and accepted as normal. The small fraction of humans who opt to remain "natural" and unmodified effectively exist on a different plane of consciousness from everyone else, and thus find it impossible to fully interact with AI's and highly modified humans.
"Natural" humans are protected from extermination. In spite of their shortcomings and frailties, humans are respected by AI's for giving rise to the machines.
Since knowledge and skills can be instantly downloaded and comprehended by most intelligent beings, the process of learning is compressed into an instantaneous affair instead of the years-long struggle normal humans experience. Free from this time-consuming burden, AI's now focus their energies on making new discoveries and contributions.
AI's are capable of dividing their attention and energies in countless directions, allowing one being to manage a multitude of endeavors simultaneously.
Femtoengineering (engineering on the scale of one thousandth of a trillionth of a meter) might be possible.
AI's communicate via a shared electronic language.
Artwork and music created by machines encompasses areas of the light spectrum and frequencies of sounds that normal humans cannot perceive.
Money has deflated in value.
Some humans at least as old as the Baby Boomers are still alive and well.
Computer viruses are a major threat since most intelligent beings are software-based.
AI's frequently make "backup copies" of themselves, guaranteeing a sort of immortality should the original AI be killed.
The concept of "life expectancy" has become irrelevant to humans and machines thanks to medical immortality and advanced computers.
The pace of technological change continues to accelerate as the 22nd century nears.



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02 Oct 2008, 4:30 pm

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02 Oct 2008, 4:50 pm

"Most conscious beings lack a permanent physical form. "

What does he mean by this with one of his predictions for 2099. How is this pissible?



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02 Oct 2008, 5:23 pm

Didn't he say anything about the cometh, or nuclear blow humanity will cause, or anything else destroying the Planet?
I'm not a fatalist, but I guess humanity will not exist that long :?



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02 Oct 2008, 5:26 pm

I did not read all of this because it is stupidly long.
However, I notice that most of the early items are either high probability hits or actually postdiction (they've already happened). Though I suppose I could be misinterpreting some since this list must have been made in the 90's. "Centuries hence" just means this is an open-ended prediction, so as long as it doesn't happen he can just say it's still a long way off (even though it's a near certainty if trends continue--the only thing uncertain is the date). Also, most of the really wild predictions are so far off nobody will notice or care by then. Who will know who this guy is in 2099?

"Most conscious beings lack a permanent physical form." I assume means that we will be able to upload our consciousness to a machine and move around between them, which is pretty much meaningless.


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02 Oct 2008, 5:35 pm

CentralFLM wrote:
"Most conscious beings lack a permanent physical form. "

What does he mean by this with one of his predictions for 2099. How is this pissible?


I'm not sure, but my first thought is something like the "Bin" scifi novels (Zelazny, maybe?). In the novels, everybody is uploaded to a big computer called the Bin and their meat bodies disposed of. The Bin then ends up destroyed, leaving the few percent of humans who opted out of the Bin in charge of the earth. There is also a novel called Everyone In Silico that came out around 2001 that is along the same lines, with people getting uploaded to computers. The author of Everyone In Silico, whose name I simply can't recall, is an anarchist and uses his novels to make political and social points, which should be popular with people here.

Oh, and futurists have a spectacular record of being wrong. Remember the predictions of jet powered cars in the 50s? Also, they said that by now robots would do all our work for us, so humans would never have to work. That's when they weren't predicting annihilation of life on earth via nuclear war. Futurists simply don't know what they're talking about. Other predictors have said that the 21st century will be a century of decline and economic contraction, not just in the US but globally, as energy supplies are depleted and agriculture loses its productivity and ability to feed billions, leading to massive wars, mostly but not exclusively in the third world, as people fight over the remaining resources. Then again, people thought that by the 1980s we would be seeing famines in the US and Europe and massive plagues and even cannibalism, as predicted in the 1966 novel Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison, better known as the 1973 film Soylent Green.

I do think that the massive urban slums of the third world, where people struggle to survive in the best of times, are fragile and vulnerable to currency shocks, leading to billions who are unable to afford to eat. Already, the big run up in food costs over the past couple years has led to widespread starvation in Africa and Asia and Latin America as the urban throngs find their meager incomes insufficient to buy rice or flour. This has been little reported in the always insular US media, but it's a big problem. Most countries have ended food exports, and those that can't produce enough food on their own are stuck.



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02 Oct 2008, 6:19 pm

The TRUTH! It is funny how much of this has been done for a while, and other things were tried EVEN as much as 60 years ago and likely won't be readily available because of that.

The Age of Intelligent Machines (1990)

Early 2000s
Is already done, possible, or considered to be!

Early 21st century
ALREADY DONE!

2010
PCs are capable of answering queries by accessing information wirelessly via the Internet. (ALREADY DONE)

2020-2050
Phone calls entail three-dimensional holographic images of both people. (Has been done)
By 2020, there will be a new World government. (SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW?!?!?!?)

2020-2070
A computer passes the Turing Test, becoming the first true Artificial Intelligence. (Considering that people have gotten DUMBER, and software has gotten better, can't a computer ALREADY pass this STUPID test!?!?)

Centuries hence
Computer intelligence becomes superior to human intelligence in all areas. (I guess humans ARE getting dumber. Who knows!? Maybe in a few decades, people will be as dub as computers)

The Age of Spiritual Machines (1999)

2019
A $1,000 personal computer has as much raw power as the human brain. (WHO determines that? ounce for ounce, isn't the "raw power" ALREADY there? STILL, the brain's uniqueness is mostly in what it can DO with the power).
The summed computational powers of all computers is comparable to the total brainpower of the human race. (DREAM ON! Nobody smart enough to build such a monster would)
Computers are embedded everywhere in the environment (inside of furniture, jewelry, walls, clothing, etc.). (ALREADY THERE basically.)
People experience 3-D virtual reality through glasses and contact lenses that beam images directly to their retinas (retinal display). Coupled with an auditory source (headphones), users can remotely communicate with other people and access the Internet. (Such things are being tried, and will probably cause such attempts to STOP)
These special glasses and contact lenses can deliver "augmented reality" and "virtual reality" in three different ways. First, they can project "heads-up-displays" (HUDs) across the user's field of vision, superimposing images that stay in place in the environment regardless of the user's perspective or orientation. Second, virtual objects or people could be rendered in fixed locations by the glasses, so when the user's eyes look elsewhere, the objects appear to stay in their places. Third, the devices could block out the "real" world entirely and fully immerse the user in a virtual reality environment.
People communicate with their computers via two-way speech and gestures instead of with keyboards. Furthermore, most of this interaction occurs through computerized assistants with different personalities that the user can select or customize. Dealing with computers thus becomes more and more like dealing with a human being. (ALREADY DONE with even PEOPLE acting like computers)
Most business transactions or information inquiries involve dealing with a simulated person. (ALREADY DONE with even PEOPLE acting like computers)
Most people own more than one P.C., though the concept of what a "computer" is has changed considerably: Computers are no longer limited in design to laptops or CPUs contained in a large box connected to a monitor. Instead, devices with computer capabilities come in all sorts of unexpected shapes and sizes.(ALREADY DONE!)
Cables connecting computers and peripherals have almost completely disappeared. (ALREADY DONE)
Rotating computer memories are no longer used. (ALREADY BEING PHASED OUT)
Three-dimensional nanotube lattices are the dominant computing substrate. (ALREADY TRYING)
Massively parallel neural nets and genetic algorithms are in wide use. (ALREADY, there have been FLASE CLAIMS of such things!)!
Destructive scans of the brain and noninvasive brain scans have allowed scientists to understand the brain much better. The algorithms that allow the relatively small genetic code of the brain to construct a much more complex organ are being transferred into computer neural nets.(DREAM ON)
Pinhead-sized cameras are everywhere. (WELL, THEY ARE CLOSE)
Thin, lightweight, handheld displays with very high resolutions are the preferred means for viewing documents.(ALREADY HERE) The aforementioned computer eyeglasses and contact lenses are also used for this same purpose, and all download the information wirelessly. (ALREADY HERE, but I doubt it will stay here)
Computers have made paper books and documents almost completely obsolete.(TRUE to a large degree already)
Most learning is accomplished through intelligent, adaptive courseware presented by computer-simulated teachers. In the learning process, human adults fill the counselor and mentor roles instead of being academic instructors. These assistants are often not physically present, and help students remotely. (ALTHOUGH POSSIBLE YEARS AGO, I DOUBT it will be mainstreamed)
All students have access to computers. (MOSTLY TRUE NOW)
Most human workers spend the majority of their time acquiring new skills and knowledge. (TRUE NOW for some)
Retinal and neural implants also exist, but are in limited use because they are less useful. (TRUE NOW)
Cochlear and other implants are also widely used. (TRUE NOW)
People with spinal cord injuries can walk and climb steps using computer-controlled nerve stimulation and exoskeletal robotic walkers. (TRYING IT NOW)
Language translating machines are of much higher quality, and are routinely used in conversations. (THEY APPARENTLY EXIST NOW.)
Access to the Internet is completely wireless and provided by wearable or implanted computers. (ALREADY DONE)
Devices that deliver sensations to the skin surface of their users (i.e.--tight body suits and gloves) are also sometimes used in virtual reality to complete the experience. "Virtual sex"--in which two people are able to have sex with each other through virtual reality, or in which a human can have sex with a "simulated" partner that only exists on a computer--becomes a reality.(ALREADY DONE!)
Worldwide economic growth has continued. There has not been a global economic collapse. (DON'T WE WISH! That COULD be done, but would help too many people)
The vast majority of business interactions occur between humans and simulated retailers, or between a human's virtual personal assistant and a simulated retailer. (In a way, that is done TODAY!)
Computers do most of the vehicle driving—-humans are in fact prohibited from driving on highways unassisted. Furthermore, when humans do take over the wheel, the onboard computer system constantly monitors their actions and takes control whenever the human drives recklessly. As a result, there are very few transportation accidents. (ALREADY IN DEVELOPMENT!)
Prototype personal flying vehicles using microflaps exist. They are also primarily computer-controlled. (THEY HAVE TRIED, it has NOT caught on! The average person doesn't even understand the concept.)
Humans are beginning to have deep relationships with automated personalities, which hold some advantages over human partners. The depth of some computer personalities convinces some people that they should be accorded more rights.(OK, here is some crazy thinking!)
Public places and workplaces are ubiquitously monitored to prevent violence and all actions are recorded permanently. Personal privacy is a major political issue, and some people protect themselves with unbreakable computer codes. (ALREADY THE CASE)
The basic needs of the underclass are met. (Not specified if this pertains only to the developed world or to all countries) (DREAM ON! Maybe they should try to better THEMSELVES!)
Computers are also found inside of some humans in the form of cybernetic implants. These are most commonly used by disabled people to regain normal physical faculties (i.e. - Retinal implants allow the blind to see and spinal implants coupled with mechanical legs allow the paralyzed to walk). (ALREADY BEING WORKED ON)
Most roads now have automated driving systems--networks of monitoring and communication devices that allow computer-controlled automobiles to safely navigate. (BEING TESTED)
Virtual artists--creative computers capable of making their own art and music--emerge in all fields of the arts. (ALREADY HAPPENING)
Ubiquitous connectivity high bandwidth communications connection to the Internet at all times (ALREADY DONE)
Effective language technologies (natural language processing, speech recognition, speech synthesis) (ALREADY DONE AS BEST AS IT IS LIKELY TO BE)

2029
A $1,000 personal computer is 1,000 times more powerful than the human brain. (WOW, that is more than moore's law which would say 32 times! Moore's law is ALREADY breaking! Intel has had to use every trick in the book. They just can't really do it anymore)
The vast majority of computation is done by computers. (LIKE TODAY!)
Further progress has been made in understanding the secrets of the human brain. Hundreds of distinct sub-regions with specialized functions have been identified. Some of the algorithms that code for development of these regions have been deciphered and incorporated into neural net computers. (DREAM ON)
Massively parallel neural nets, which are constructed through reverse-engineering the human brain, are in common use. (DREAM ON)
The eyeglasses and headphones that used to deliver virtual reality are now obsolete thanks to computer implants that go into the eyes and ears. The implants are either permanent or removable. They allow direct interface with computers, communications and Internet-based applications. The implants are also capable of recording what the user sees and hears.
Computer implants designed for direct connection to the brain are also available. They are capable of augmenting natural senses and of enhancing higher brain functions like memory, learning speed and overall intelligence.
Computers are now capable of learning and creating new knowledge entirely on their own and with no human help. By scanning the enormous content of the Internet, some computers "know" literally every single piece of public information (every scientific discovery, every book and movie, every public statement, etc.) generated by human beings.
Direct brain implants allow users to enter full-immersion virtual reality--with complete sensory stimulation--without any external equipment. People can have their minds in a totally different place at any moment. This technology is in widespread use.
Most communication occurs between humans and machines as opposed to human-to-human.
The manufacturing, agricultural and transportation sectors of the economy are almost entirely automated and employ very few humans. Across the world, poverty, war and disease are almost nonexistent thanks to technology alleviating want.
The rise of Artificial Intelligence creates a real "robot rights" movement, and there is open, public debate over what sorts of civil rights and legal protections machines should have. The existence of humans with heavy levels of cybernetic augmentation and of larger numbers of other people with less extreme cybernetic implants lead to further arguments over what constitutes a "human being."
Although computers routinely pass the Turing Test, controversy still persists over whether machines are as intelligent as humans in all areas.
Artificial Intelligences claim to be conscious and openly petition for recognition of the fact. Most people admit and accept this new truth. (DREAM ON)
Reverse engineering of the human brain completed (DREAM ON)
Non-biological intelligence combines the subtlety and pattern recognition strength of human intelligence, with the speed, memory, and knowledge sharing of machine intelligence
Non-biological intelligence will continue to grow exponentially whereas biological intelligence is effectively fixed

2049
Food is commonly "assembled" by nanomachines. This food is externally indistinguishable from "natural" food, but it can be made more wholesome since production can be controlled at the molecular level. This technology decouples food production from climate conditions and the availability of natural resources. [An implication of this is that meat production will no longer require the slaughter of animals.] (Can already be done to a large part WITHOUT nanomachines!)


DODO DODO DODO DO.... OK, someone has watched terminator too much....



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02 Oct 2008, 6:48 pm

I must not let myself believe these claims. This s*** is exactly what made me a technophobe temporarily from September 2006 - January 2007. In September of 2006, I was looking for evidence to back up these claims. I never found any. I doubt I ever will. The first scare of this sort was a newspaper article my mom cut out & gave me one night in 2003.

This is why just after I joined WrongPlanet back in August of 2007 I mentioned avoiding Wikipedia. It might be monitored for accuracy, but Mr. Clean yet the fact remain that anyone can go into it & say anything they want about anything, even if it's not true. We all must consider that before sharing these articles as they may provoke negative emotional feelings in their readers AND they cannot be proven factual.



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02 Oct 2008, 7:31 pm

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Futurists simply don't know what they're talking about. Other predictors have said that the 21st century will be a century of decline and economic contraction, not just in the US but globally, as energy supplies are depleted and agriculture loses its productivity and ability to feed billions, leading to massive wars, mostly but not exclusively in the third world, as people fight over the remaining resources.


Yeah, I can't see any of that happening at all. :roll:

Except for the part about agriculture losing its productivity, I mean. Fun fact: We actually have more than enough food to feed everybody in the world. The problem is getting it to them, and the little problem that many of them can't afford it.

The thing is, making predictions is hard. It's not just Futurists who screw it up. You'd think with good information and much consideration they could try to predict things that are likely to be right, but those are not interesting predictions. What they do is to inspire more than to predict.

SKOREAPV83 wrote:
I must not let myself believe these claims. This s*** is exactly what made me a technophobe temporarily from September 2006 - January 2007. In September of 2006, I was looking for evidence to back up these claims. I never found any. I doubt I ever will. The first scare of this sort was a newspaper article my mom cut out & gave me one night in 2003.

This is why just after I joined WrongPlanet back in August of 2007 I mentioned avoiding Wikipedia. It might be monitored for accuracy, but Mr. Clean yet the fact remain that anyone can go into it & say anything they want about anything, even if it's not true. We all must consider that before sharing these articles as they may provoke negative emotional feelings in their readers AND they cannot be proven factual.


Do you have any idea what's going on? Why are you even here?


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02 Oct 2008, 7:54 pm

Excuse me! I have every idea what's going on! I really don't appreciate it when I get asked questions like these!

I've known I have AS since 4/12/1996 13:47 (1:47PM). So I joined this forum. I was just putting my 2 cents in while knowing when to leave it alone.



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Futurists simply don't know what they're talking about. Other predictors have said that the 21st century will be a century of decline and economic contraction, not just in the US but globally, as energy supplies are depleted and agriculture loses its productivity and ability to feed billions, leading to massive wars, mostly but not exclusively in the third world, as people fight over the remaining resources.


Yeah, I can't see any of that happening at all. :roll:


Yo're being SARCASTIC, RIGHT? This has ALREADY started!

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Except for the part about agriculture losing its productivity, I mean. Fun fact: We actually have more than enough food to feed everybody in the world. The problem is getting it to them, and the little problem that many of them can't afford it.


Just WAIT! Farm land is being sold, food is being tainted, etc...

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The thing is, making predictions is hard. It's not just Futurists who screw it up. You'd think with good information and much consideration they could try to predict things that are likely to be right, but those are not interesting predictions. What they do is to inspire more than to predict.


They OFTEN don't know the past or the current, and yet CLAIM to predict the future. It is often just FANTASY!



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02 Oct 2008, 8:11 pm

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Excuse me! I have every idea what's going on! I really don't appreciate it when I get asked questions like these!

I've known I have AS since 4/12/1996 13:47 (1:47PM). So I joined this forum. I was just putting my 2 cents in while knowing when to leave it alone.


You're missing the point again.

If you want to talk about technophobia, that's cool, but the rant about Wikipedia seems to be out of place. Obviously someone could go there and incorrectly report the predictions made by Kurzweil, but you can't expect them or anybody else to be accountable for the accuracy of those predictions, except for the man who made them. I recommend you approach all predictions with a healthy dose of skepticism and critical thinking, not just ones that scare you. And don't blame kids on Wikipedia if you are bothered by what Kurzweill predicts.

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Yo're being SARCASTIC, RIGHT? This has ALREADY started!

The rolling eyes mean sarcasm.

And yes, many of these predictions are pure fantasy. Which, of course, is exactly what I was saying.


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02 Oct 2008, 8:50 pm

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I did not read all of this because it is stupidly long.
However, I notice that most of the early items are either high probability hits or actually postdiction (they've already happened). Though I suppose I could be misinterpreting some since this list must have been made in the 90's. "Centuries hence" just means this is an open-ended prediction, so as long as it doesn't happen he can just say it's still a long way off (even though it's a near certainty if trends continue--the only thing uncertain is the date). Also, most of the really wild predictions are so far off nobody will notice or care by then. Who will know who this guy is in 2099?


I guess you guys don't have all the facts. Raymond predicted the majority of the early 21st century stuff in 1980. He has written dozens of books about the future.



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02 Oct 2008, 9:05 pm

Yes, all of this is very computer related.
There are other technologies than computers, and all it takes is a nice little nuclear war to put us back at 1915 with regards to that.

Also, politics and general human sentiment/resentment will limit how far we will ever take cybernetics. Sure, if someone wants to defy UN and governmental bans reaching all the way from the local to the international treaty level, fine then, but they do so at risk of life and "limb".

The same also limits AI development, as we would have to develop "friendly" AI or dumbed down versions that are more programmed than sentient in order to satisfy public outcry.

We have to consider that public outcry will always outweigh the inventors' demands - unless they want to be killed by a mob or thrown in prison for the rest of their lives.


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02 Oct 2008, 9:19 pm

"I want flying cars! Where are my flying cars!?" - Avery Brooks...;)

Kurzweil makes a good synth, tho I can't afford it..;) And if you make enough predictions, some are going to turn out right...;)



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02 Oct 2008, 9:54 pm

Dear God I hope I'm dead before/if some of this s**t happens. I doubt a lot of of this will ever happen, but it scares me s**tless thinking about the what ifs.


Or else I will become a hermit in the woods.


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