AS good excuse for jury duty??

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The Talmud is a religious text. Why give a damn what it says?

It is also a source of ethical guidance and a survival manual. Unlike the TNKH which is supposed to be god inspired, the Talmud is man made by sages and scholars.

Don't you think people ought be be bound by their promises and oaths. Shouldn't people keep contracts they make freely? Shouldn't people respect each other's property and lives?

ruveyn

I think everyone has a civic duty to serve on a jury if required to, unless they can demonstrate that they are unable to for some reason. Not wanting to do it, or fearing that you will be uncomfortable, or inconvenienced by it is not a good enough reason.

The only time I was called for jury service was when I was pregnant. I wrote back, with documentation, to explain that I would either be in a maternity hospital or hopefully breastfeeding a new born baby by the time of the trial. That reason was accepted without question.

If I were called again to serve on a jury, then I would consider part of my living within this society to play my part as best I can.

Btw - there is no requirement, in the UK, to swear an oath on a Bible. You can choose to affirm instead and don't have to give any reason. Also, I am a Christian, and see no problem in being part of a group of people who listen to evidence, and decide on its credibility and make a decision based on that.

Nor do I, and I am Christian, as well. Somewhere in the Bible I'm sure there's a verse that states a person's civic ohbligations.

If you're unable to do such due to your label, it's not an excuse, it's a reason. You have to interact with a whole heap of people, as well as being in a loud environment, among a million other things that would be too difficult for someone with my level of AS.

If you can do it, cool, but if you can't, that's what you have the label for.

The label can exculpate you from just about anything, including murder and other felony charges.


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Your point? Other than saying the obvious (i.e., mental illnesses/disorders don't make you immune to criminal actions, which most people should know; it can define how your punishment is given, of course).

I used my label to refrain from jury duty, and for very good reason; the government didn't have any qualms with me doing such (I needed the doctor to sign the form, of course).

The whole point of having a label is for this very reason, to give you a valid reason for others to know why you can't do something.

Has your label ever prevented you from doing things you enjoy doing? Or does it rear its ugly head only when obligations arise?

I don't know if it's a "ticket out" or not, but I will keep it in mind if I ever get called to duty. I wouldn't make a good juror anyway, due to the hassels with the law that I've already been through. I think I would tend to be more unforgiving that most, and tend to press for a harsher punishment. Plus, I would be pissed off that I had to be there in the first place, so that wouldn't help matters either. Basically, you wouldn't want me as your juror.

You know, I can see what you insinuate, and judging others doesn't work too well when you don't even know them.

To answer your question, it stops me from visiting someone I love, it stops me supporting someone else I love, it stops me from doing my dream job (military; they didn't like the label, ironically), and it has completely disabled me in all superficial ways. I don't enjoy anything.

I suppose it'd have to do with your level(s) of impairment.


I, for one, wouldn't be able to do jury duty.
Just in case someone thinks I'm using it as an "excuse" (I have to say to the OP, that was some bad phrasing.), my reasons would be:
Selective mutism
Anxiety to the point that if anyone tried to make me talk, I'd most likely go into instant meltdown: at which point, I get "scary". Banging my head on things, biting and punching myself, crying uncontrollably... such and ect. ... these things a good juror do not make.


I will most likely regret asking this, but....
slowmutant, any particular reason for you picking on Danielismyname?

No, I'm just sick and tired of hearing about people with AS using their label to absolve themselves of responsibility and accountability. My beef is not specifically with Danielismyname.

In writing, I asked to be excused from jury duty. My reasons were that I can have trouble coming to consensus with other people and that would be disruptive to the process through the trial. I didnt feel that I could discharge my civic duties fairly.

I was excused. I didnt say I was incapable of it, but that in all good consciousness I was not an asset to the process.

Sure, I used my label as an excuse, but I also did was I thought was right. They want to hear that you feel responsibility, not just an excuse. I wasnt an asset, I would have dragged the court case out, adding to expenses.

Excuse?
Surely unless there is a definitive reason that you can't do it you should let them know and let them make the decision.
Has anyone else noticed that Aspergers and Autism as well to some extent has become a joke to an awful lot of people, it seem to be everywhere.

No - it would make no difference at all and if it did you would only be locked up in the prison hospital - which is worse and more restrictive.

Are you sure this whole thing isn't just the classic Avoidance of Social Situations? Some will stop at nothing to avoid social situations, as if their lives depended on it.