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21 Oct 2011, 7:14 pm

Unfortunately, it will not be deemed a valid treatment option for an admitted speed freak. That is not to say it could not be.

I abused many drugs for a longtime. They gave me an identity which people understood - of course I was weird and obsessive and socially awkward, I was a drug addict!

When I learned to accept myself for who I am and received a diagnosis, I didn't need the drugs.

I do not abuse my medication because I need it to work! It allows me to be the best version of me. I never even liked to be high. When I feel like the best version of me, I don't have to get high. When I accept myself, I don't need to use drugs to fit in.

Diagnosis, self-acceptance, hard work, and medication have allowed me to leave behind a negative attitude, self-loathing and a self-destructive lifestyle.


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23 Oct 2011, 10:12 am

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Desoxyn is a viable treatment option. It comes in 5mg tablets and is no more abusable than any other prescription amphetamine. Unfortunately, it suffers from a negative stigma, as does Dexedrine, despite the fact that Adderall is 3/4 Dexedrine.

Crystal meth is a notoriously impure street drug in volatile form. Users will often smoke, snort or inject massive quantities at a time. Many IV users will inject 500mg or more in one fell swoop. It is not possible to do this with Desoxyn.

Caffeine shares the same side-effects profile as methamphetamine, but is not euphoric enough for users to use such vast quantities.

If a medication is abusable, and you are inclined to abuse it, you will, be it Adderall, Dexedrine, Desoxyn, Vyvanse, or non-stimulant prescriptions.

Many others use these medications responsibly and receive enormous benefits.


Drugs used in excess will cause detriemental effects. This is true of ANY drugs.
This is not what you are saying and I do not think we are thinking this.

Therapeutic drug use is fine in my book. I think you are coming from a place of well intentioned and knowledgeable insight here.

This may well be a constructive dialogue which may well recieve acclaim in another Autism Speaks article. It is subjects like this, that if written well (and there is really no question as to your ability to write well) to open the way to such meaningful discourse.

I doubt that it mentioned here will do much but allow for to and fro chat. but on Autism Speaks site it will have a greater impact.



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08 Nov 2011, 10:50 am

Zeraeph wrote:
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I would like to point out that you are the one who heavily criticized my use of medication and spread a ridiculous lie about me being on a deadly med combo. I received countless messages from people afraid for my life. Kat and my sister received messages as well and called me afraid for my life until I explained the truth to them. That was outrageous and uncalled for.

Mixing Ambien and alcohol can result in deadly CNS depression.

There is no legitimate medical reason to take three tablets of Zolpidem Tartrate with alcohol (particularly such a large quantity). Countless people have died from this combination.

I will contact a moderator here if you respond to this with any further criticism of my medication.


But you mistake me sir, I would hate to discourage you from, or criticize you for mixing your meds in any way you choose. :D

As for criticism, puh-leese, I would LOVE a regular prescription of Dexadrine, or even Desoxyn (aka crystal meth on prescription) but that is probably only because I am a thoroughly degenerate speed freak with a vague death wish anyway?

So any sense of negativity is only my jealousy seeping through...feel free to ignore. :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0n4eMGXAyk[/youtube]

PS That would be about 30 Zolpidem and at least a bottle of single malt you are referring to...regardless of age or quality. A combination I would never claim any theraputic value for...
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This is just sad.


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08 Nov 2011, 11:04 am

Tambourine-Man wrote:
Zeraeph wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:

I would like to point out that you are the one who heavily criticized my use of medication and spread a ridiculous lie about me being on a deadly med combo. I received countless messages from people afraid for my life. Kat and my sister received messages as well and called me afraid for my life until I explained the truth to them. That was outrageous and uncalled for.

Mixing Ambien and alcohol can result in deadly CNS depression.

There is no legitimate medical reason to take three tablets of Zolpidem Tartrate with alcohol (particularly such a large quantity). Countless people have died from this combination.

I will contact a moderator here if you respond to this with any further criticism of my medication.


But you mistake me sir, I would hate to discourage you from, or criticize you for mixing your meds in any way you choose. :D

As for criticism, puh-leese, I would LOVE a regular prescription of Dexadrine, or even Desoxyn (aka crystal meth on prescription) but that is probably only because I am a thoroughly degenerate speed freak with a vague death wish anyway?

So any sense of negativity is only my jealousy seeping through...feel free to ignore. :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0n4eMGXAyk[/youtube]

PS That would be about 30 Zolpidem and at least a bottle of single malt you are referring to...regardless of age or quality. A combination I would never claim any theraputic value for...
:wink:


This is just sad.

See what I have to put up with when I defend you from raging maniacs?



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08 Nov 2011, 11:08 am

Gedrene... Thank you! We may not always agree on everything, but I do want you to know that I consider you to be a valuable member and an online friend. I appreciate all your efforts, both when you have stood up for me and stood against me. Thanks a lot. I mean that in all sincerity.


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08 Nov 2011, 11:10 am

Tambourine-Man wrote:
Gedrene... Thank you! We may not always agree on everything, but I do want you to know that I consider you to be a valuable member and an online friend. I appreciate all your efforts, both when you have stood up for me and stood against me. Thanks a lot. I mean that in all sincerity.

Aye. It's nice to know that people see me as directed by a force of nature rather than by any specific personal interest.



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08 Nov 2011, 11:28 am

Gedrene wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
Zeraeph wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:

I would like to point out that you are the one who heavily criticized my use of medication and spread a ridiculous lie about me being on a deadly med combo. I received countless messages from people afraid for my life. Kat and my sister received messages as well and called me afraid for my life until I explained the truth to them. That was outrageous and uncalled for.

Mixing Ambien and alcohol can result in deadly CNS depression.

There is no legitimate medical reason to take three tablets of Zolpidem Tartrate with alcohol (particularly such a large quantity). Countless people have died from this combination.

I will contact a moderator here if you respond to this with any further criticism of my medication.


But you mistake me sir, I would hate to discourage you from, or criticize you for mixing your meds in any way you choose. :D

As for criticism, puh-leese, I would LOVE a regular prescription of Dexadrine, or even Desoxyn (aka crystal meth on prescription) but that is probably only because I am a thoroughly degenerate speed freak with a vague death wish anyway?

So any sense of negativity is only my jealousy seeping through...feel free to ignore. :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0n4eMGXAyk[/youtube]

PS That would be about 30 Zolpidem and at least a bottle of single malt you are referring to...regardless of age or quality. A combination I would never claim any theraputic value for...
:wink:


This is just sad.

See what I have to put up with when I defend you from raging maniacs?


I cannot, for the life of me, understand Zeraeph's motivation, other than inciting chaos. I've finally had enough and have taken steps to have this situation taken care of.


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08 Nov 2011, 11:38 am

Autism Speaks and their agenda/believed agenda is a very touchy subject. There are strong feelings on both sides of the issue. AFF just happens to have some very militant individuals who decided to attack Tambourine-Man. He didn't deserve it. Others there are just like people here.

Personally, I am very cautious about anything Autism Speaks says, strictly based on what they've said in the past. But I do applaud Tambourine-Man's efforts to bring an Aspie viewpoint to them. Autism Speaks needs an Aspie voice, needs people who live Autism every day of their lives, to tell it like it is. Otherwise, NTs tend to go strictly by observation and well meaning ideas, but they will never be "one of us," so how can they really know what we think and feel about things. I would hope that they would invite even more Aspies to write about issues and become involved in their discussions. Otherwise it's like they are ignoring us and think they "know better" as to what we need.

It would be nice if certain aspects of AFF were to become less militant, because this very militant attitude seems to blind them from seeing opportunities and possibilities right in front of them.

Keep it up Tambourine-Man, but also watch out that you don't become some sort of "token Aspie" or "Autism poster boy" for Autism Speaks.


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08 Nov 2011, 11:45 am

Gedrene wrote:
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Tambourine-Man wrote:
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:lol:

Wait a minute...I know what y'all are trying to do...y'all are trying to goad me into posing a selection of your creepy little pms to me...which...while both informative, and highly entertaining, for most of the members here, would be deeply against the rules.

Better luck next time boys...

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08 Nov 2011, 11:47 am

So Gaye Dalton, you do this kind of thing all over the Internet? Don't you have anything better to do than attempt to ruin lives? You are very sad. Spending all day stalking people on mental health forums, preying on the vulnerable and attempting to get them to commit suicide?

What kind of psychopath are you? I've contacted moderators. I feel I should contact the police. This is NOT ok. You are sick.

Check out this link everyone...

http://certaintee.blogspot.com/

Very interesting.


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08 Nov 2011, 12:05 pm

Tambourine-Man wrote:
So Gaye Dalton, you do this kind of thing all over the Internet? Don't you have anything better to do than attempt to ruin lives? You are very sad. Spending all day stalking people on mental health forums, preying on the vulnerable and attempting to get them to commit suicide?

What kind of psychopath are you? I've contacted moderators. I feel I should contact the police. This is NOT ok. You are sick.

Check out this link everyone...

http://certaintee.blogspot.com/

Very interesting.


Let's see, google "zeraeph" find that link...takes...ooooo...30 seconds on a slow connection...but it took you about 6 weeks...

Good job! :D

However, everybody ELSE found it about 40 months ago...and formed their own, hard and fast, opinions at that time...

The only thing nobody knows is whether there is, in fact, more than one Zeraeph...think carefully about it now...just just before you take any serious pratfalls ;)

(A lot of those links are excellent and WELL worth reading though...if you like that sort of thing...and this is worth reading too:
http://gayedalton.blogspot.com/ - and much more fun... :D )

Incidentally, a allegation like:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
[Note: Deleted reference to actionable defamation against a named individual on advice that the quote, in any context,, in and of itself could be deemed to constitute defamation,]


...made against a clearly identified party is serious actionable defamation, and for the sake of your good friend Alex, you should probably delete it...before somebody talks to their lawyer.



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08 Nov 2011, 12:10 pm

Zeraeph wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
So Gaye Dalton, you do this kind of thing all over the Internet? Don't you have anything better to do than attempt to ruin lives? You are very sad. Spending all day stalking people on mental health forums, preying on the vulnerable and attempting to get them to commit suicide?

What kind of psychopath are you? I've contacted moderators. I feel I should contact the police. This is NOT ok. You are sick.

Check out this link everyone...

http://certaintee.blogspot.com/

Very interesting.


Let's see, google "zeraeph" find that link...takes...ooooo...30 seconds on a slow connection...but it took you about 6 weeks...

Good job! :D

However, everybody ELSE found it about 40 months ago...and formed their own, hard and fast, opinions at that time...

The only thing nobody knows is whether there is, in fact, more than one Zeraeph...think carefully about it now...just just before you take any serious pratfalls ;)

(A lot of those links are excellent and WELL worth reading though...if you like that sort of thing...and this is worth reading too:
http://gayedalton.blogspot.com/ - and much more fun... :D )

Incidentally, a allegation like:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
Spending all day stalking people on mental health forums, preying on the vulnerable and attempting to get them to commit suicide?


...made against a clearly identified party is serious actionable defamation, and for the sake of your good friend Alex, you should probably delete it...before somebody talks to their lawyer.

Telling the truth isn't defamation. Maybe you should be quiet.



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08 Nov 2011, 12:22 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Zeraeph wrote:
Incidentally, a allegation like:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
[Note: Deleted reference to actionable defamation against a named individual on advice that the quote, in any context,, in and of itself could be deemed to constitute defamation,]


...made against a clearly identified party is serious actionable defamation, and for the sake of your good friend Alex, you should probably delete it...before somebody talks to their lawyer.

Telling the truth isn't defamation. Maybe you should be quiet.


Don't be so ridiculous...

An accusation as serious as that - tantamount to attempted murder in some states - made against a clearly identified individual on record, in a public place without sufficient evidence to warrant criminal prosecution, let alone without evidence of any kind, is a very serious form of actionable defamation.

It would be best for Alex if Holman deleted it from his post, and if he does have the decency to do that I will follow suit with all reference to it and hope you will too.



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08 Nov 2011, 12:28 pm

Zeraeph wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Zeraeph wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
Spending all day stalking people on mental health forums, preying on the vulnerable and attempting to get them to commit suicide?


...made against a clearly identified party is serious actionable defamation, and for the sake of your good friend Alex, you should probably delete it...before somebody talks to their lawyer.

Telling the truth isn't defamation. Maybe you should be quiet.


Don't be so ridiculous...

An accusation as serious as that - tantamount to attempted murder in some states - made against a clearly identified individual on record, in a public place without sufficient evidence to warrant criminal prosecution, let alone without evidence of any kind, is a very serious form of actionable defamation.

It would be best for Alex if Holman deleted it from his post, and if he does have the decency to do that I will follow suit with all reference to it and hope you will too.


I'm sure a moderator will take care of it. My accusation is not without tons of evidence, that can be found simply by googling Gaye Dalton, Zeraeph, and Mechanima. How many years has this been going on? How many sites have you been banned from?

There is also public evidence that you stalked me, my family, my girlfriend, and spread a ridiculous rumor that resulted in numerous individuals fearing for my life.

You may not be the only Zeraeph, but you are the only one who also uses the name Mechanima.

What I have done here does not violate any rule you haven't violated yourself. I am only protecting myself and others. I would welcome a moderator to delete the messages after this has been taken care of.


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08 Nov 2011, 12:33 pm

Whoa. And I thought I needed to get out more.



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08 Nov 2011, 12:43 pm

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Whoa. And I thought I needed to get out more.


You know what I think Fraac?

I think all this is because they actually thought I was threatening to make their silly PMs public...which...well...NO WAY...I'd look a complete IDIOT if I did...I was just trying to lighten their silliness up...
:lol:

All this may calm down quite a lot if I remind them that their silly pms really were quite tame and harmless...and they must be mixing them up with the pms they sent someone else to be panicking like this...

Well, to quote someone who is also probably alleged to be another one of my monsterous female alter egos:

"The Lady's not for turning"

;)