is eharmony worth the cost?

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One common example of someone being "overconfident" is a semi-ugly or average-looking guy that makes a lot of money. The ugly guy gets laid sometimes mainly cause he's rich, so he starts perceiving himself as being really good-looking even though he isn't.

I suspect this is extremely common among not-so-good-looking guys with great jobs. lol

..I don't think ugly people are so deluded as to truly believe that money makes them more physically attractive. However, the attention they get from their money may make them feel good enough to feel confident in their looks even if they aren't the best looking person. I can see that happening, for sure.. but I can't imagine looking in the mirror and thinking I'm ugly, then stuffing my wallet with cash, looking in the mirror again and feeling better looking. That's some sorta nuts, imo. lol

Na, I'm sure it takes some brainwashing over a period of months before said ugly rich-guy starts thinking he's a "hunk" or whatever. lol

Even then.. I can't imagine someone being so gullible as to convince themselves that it's their looks that have improved and made them more attractive and not the large amount of money they've acquired.

Reminds me of the fat gross looking bikers with sexy young girls hanging all over them in the bars. The chances of these girls actually being physically attracted to these guys is extremely slim. They just hang around for the drinks, drugs, gifts and other things a lot of money can buy. It becomes even more obvious whenever one of these bikers falls on hard times and doesn't have stacks of cash in his pocket... as all of the sudden he doesn't have cute young girls hanging all over him anymore. These guys can't be as deluded to honestly believe they're sexually attractive to these girls and that it's anything more than the money that gets them the girls they attract. If they do, they are some kind of nuts.

Okay I'd agree with that. The really ugly ones are probably sociopaths(ASPD) a lot of the time. (Narcissistic personality disorder often coexists with ASPD)

The overconfident line-of-thinking I described is probably much more prevalent among plain average-looking NT guys with

eharmony in my opinion is horse manure.

The fallacy of this logic is not viewing confidence as the desirable trait, rather than the result of a desirable trait. Confidence will get you just as far as looks or money even if you don't have anything to back it up. The difference between confidence and arrogance is not material, the difference is in how you are perceived. It is completely subjective.

Newt Gingrich.

Granted, he did enlist a number of prostitutes, but a lot of women willingly had affairs with him. The man is a human pile of mashed potatoes, and has looked that way forever.

Nah, there are definitely words and actions that make people cross the line from confidence to arrogance. For example, many celebrities are confident - but Kanye west is arrogant.

I always get a good laugh at the online dating profiles of men who are substantially overweight in their photos, ugly as a donkey's ass, and yet claim in their profile to be "fit and good-looking." Now that's what *I* call arrogance.

Here's what I do: I have free accounts on several dating sites including Zoosk and Gk2gk.com

If I find someone on the sites who use their real name and the city they're located, I look them up on Facebook, and send them a Friend request, offering to chat and get to know them.

My coworkers actually credit me for that, mentioning on the dating sites people will lie thru their teeth; you find out who they really are on Facebook. Hell, one of the girls that looked me up on Zoosk recently...has been in a relationship since September.

Glad I dodged that bullet.

The rest haven't responded, and all I'm trying to do is chat with them.

So, feel free to give that a try; worst case scenario, you're in my position, and they won't even talk to you.

If that's the case, there was probably no future with them to begin with.

If you really have to go out of your way for it, it probably isn't meant to be; that's the way I see it anyway.

I'm really bad at the whole online dating thing. I get so confused when talking to thse people, and they do to. They cant even remember who I am a lot of the time. I try to have a conversation and this one person completely forgot what I had said before. This other girl asked for more pics and after I sent them didnt respond to texts for a week, which I interpreted as "not good enough." and today I get texts from her??? WTF I already deleted all my info about you. Between that and getting stood up (for prepaid dates even) I'm starting to lose my cool with online dating.

And then theres even having these conversations. Getting someone to reply is hard enough but once I have them talking I have absolutely no idea what to say.

I used eharmony a year ago. its was a waste of my money and time. I met a guy from gk2gk over 2 years ago, still friends with him. Met a guy off oasis, still friends.
Met one guy from star trek passions lead to nothing cos he was over sensitive in me saying humor and personality is why i didn't want a relationship with him and cos i said 'humor and personality' he thought i didn't like him as a friend. I felt he was mad cos he got 'friend-zoned'. I've talked to my mum about him, my mum thinks it wouldn't worked out.

You fail to take into account the social scene in isolated areas. There is no where to go to meet people except church. Also, conformity is a must in rural communities. If you are weird, hell no. Basically what I am saying is, mathematically, someone with AS is not likely to find someone locally unless they live in a bigger city or they are obsessed with the things that normal, country people are obsessed with. There aren't enough like-minded people. You can talk to people all day long but not find a good connection. That is the story of my life.

Make eye contact and smile at the women who you walk past. Look for the body language signs that they might want to flirt with you. Find a way to be in the same check out line as them. Strike up a conversation at the check out line....

The reason I am saying this is because I just had such an encounter in a grocery store a few days ago, the first time that has happened to me in my life. First came the body language, then being in the same checkout line, then the subtle invitation to converse. I did not like the way she looked so I did not take the bait.