Maybe this will be a useful wake up call for some here....
actually, who benefits more is definitely important as it is one blatant way in which the "article" you posted was inaccurate. they claimed something to be true, when in fact the evidence points to the opposite. it calls the rest of the claims into question. oh, and most people don't marry up - they marry someone with similar education and earning potential.
that's the problem with these internet blogs - they are unscientific and anecdotal. any supposed evidence that they find is often misinterpreted or twisted to fit the blogger's agenda.
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that's the problem with these internet blogs - they are unscientific and anecdotal. any supposed evidence that they find is often misinterpreted or twisted to fit the blogger's agenda.
maybe not in Canada, but in the third world yes, they marry up, hell they do.
Also, women are much more likely to quit their careers after marriage:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 143110.htm
who's talking about the third world? many women are not even allowed to work there, so how else could they survive? if you are concerned about the dating patterns of women in the third world, maybe work on empowering them to become equal so that they will have similar options as women in developed countries. it's almost like you're blaming them for wanting to marry someone who has money, when frankly they have no other choice. anyway that has nothing to do with the situation of the vast majority of WPers, so you are tossing in a red herring.
if you want the full article that i linked a summary from, it also deals with income level of spouses in the United States (where most WP members are located). the information can be roughly extrapolated to all western countries, although in Canada we see the same trends to a higher degree as women have more options here.
http://pewsocialtrends.org/files/2010/1 ... rriage.pdf
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Melinda Gates doesn't look or presented as a "trophy" wife by the media (aka not a model).
Same for Kerry's wife, Mrs Heinz.
I dunno, I haven't met Bill. and anyway, exceptions just prove the rule.
I bet all y'all who b***h and whine about women being "gold diggers" would be only dating chicks dozens of leagues ahead of you in the looks department if you had the dough ;P
wealthy women want wealthy men. wealthy men want beautiful women. big f***ing deal.
Anyways, the issue the author is talking about is about wealthy women wanting wealthy men, but about wealthy women wanting wealthier men - big difference.
Melinda Gates doesn't look or presented as a "trophy" wife by the media (aka not a model).
Same for Kerry's wife, Mrs Heinz.
I dunno, I haven't met Bill. and anyway, exceptions just prove the rule.
I bet all y'all who b***h and whine about women being "gold diggers" would be only dating chicks dozens of leagues ahead of you in the looks department if you had the dough ;P
wealthy women want wealthy men. wealthy men want beautiful women. big f***ing deal.
Anyways, the issue the author is talking about is about wealthy women wanting wealthy men, but about wealthy women wanting wealthier men - big difference.
except that it is not an accurate statement.
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Melinda Gates doesn't look or presented as a "trophy" wife by the media (aka not a model).
Same for Kerry's wife, Mrs Heinz.
I dunno, I haven't met Bill. and anyway, exceptions just prove the rule.
I bet all y'all who b***h and whine about women being "gold diggers" would be only dating chicks dozens of leagues ahead of you in the looks department if you had the dough ;P
wealthy women want wealthy men. wealthy men want beautiful women. big f***ing deal.
Anyways, the issue the author is talking about is about wealthy women wanting wealthy men, but about wealthy women wanting wealthier men - big difference.
except that it is not an accurate statement.
Well, regardless of its accuracy, the article's message is clear, it's directed to a certain type of high-earning women that they do really exist, whether they are a majority or a minority is irrelevant. Are you denying they exist?
of course some women are gold diggers, whether they are high earners or not. some men are gold diggers too. but that isn't really relevant to people on the forum as a "wake up call" because it's not the case with most men or women in western society. they are curious anomalies, not indicators of trends.
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sure, but so what? leave them to each other as they are equally shallow. since they are a minority, they are not exactly pertinent to most people's dating experience.
exactly.
Because of those minorities (if they are a minority) entire genders are looked down upon. Believe it or not i dont come here saying women are evil or men are evil. Im simply stating the same thing ive always said. The genders are more equal than people want to admit. every negative about men women have a similar one and vice versa.
One thing I've noticed since entering the dating world is how men have a tendency to emphasize that they've got a job. It's as if it makes them more dateable in their eyes. I am unclear as to why this is the case.
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Because for many women its a requirement to have a job/car to even think of being with someone.
As long as I have decent career prospects of my own, I do not care AT ALL where a woman is money- or education-wise. I find that neither of those things have much correlation with character nowadays. Nor am I going to turn away from a wealthy woman just because society says that men aren't supposed to date "up" wealth-wise. As long as I'd love her even if she lost her high-paying job!
I'll admit I'd feel a bit intimidated if she had a Ph.D or a six-figure job, since I'm far from sure I'll ever have those. But that's probably just my fear of her being turned off by the idea of dating "down" in wealth.
As long as I make enough money to have a house of my own, doing something I at least somewhat enjoy, I'd be happy.
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I pay my own way on dates, unless the other person feels very strongly about it, and even then I'll pick up the next date.
I agree with everything you say, except paying yourself for dates, a man should do so out of his own kindness and politeness, as I think this is something that will be sadly lost if woman don't let them pay out of that kindness/politeness.
Of course, it's not necessarily about the money in that perspective, but more about how they represent themselves to the woman.
Other then that, I would'nt care how much a woman has.
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Because for many women its a requirement to have a job/car to even think of being with someone.
I see. I've dated jobless/carless men before. I don't see what the big deal is, as long as I'm not expected to pay their way.
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I pay my own way on dates, unless the other person feels very strongly about it, and even then I'll pick up the next date.
I agree with everything you say, except paying yourself for dates, a man should do so out of his own kindness and politeness, as I think this is something that will be sadly lost if woman don't let them pay out of that kindness/politeness.
Of course, it's not necessarily about the money in that perspective, but more about how they represent themselves to the woman.
Other then that, I would'nt care how much a woman has.
The person that did the asking should be the one to pay IMO. I don't understand why the man should be expected to pay by default.
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Or maybe not.
Lets face it Boo: the internet has made it very easy to find info to backup just about any claim you may have because anyone can put something online and its unlikely that no one has thought of anything similar.
Right now I could point you out thousands of articles on why males are only interested in sex(and just about any other male based stereotype which is basically what you´ve done).
Does that mean that all this stereotypes are true for every men and we are doomed?, thats up to you to decide but if I was to answer this question I´d have to quote one of my hs teachers when he said that the internet is a very useful tool for finding information but anyone can post an article online so you cant just take something as a fact just because its on several websites.
Im not denying that there´s some truth to every stereotype and this one is probably no exception but if you do some research on marriage counselors etc, you´ll see that most of them mention that having your basic needs filled(which is basically what this stereotype is based upon) is no longer enough and most people are changing their priorities
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