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26 Apr 2012, 3:12 pm

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I personally think body-building is good for men who don't want to sag at an old age, but a lot of young people have good muscle mass naturally, why do they work hard to develop it even more? It's something to do, but I never really got why...


Nobody has six-pack abs or big arms naturally.

It actually depends on what line of work they do, for example, and I hope you'll excuse using the same example I've used in another thread, construction workers would be more muscular than someone working in a bank... Especially if they have an active lifestyle in addition. But not on a body-building level, because body builders do not only work on their muscles, they also eat a lot of protein etc. and that lifestyle is very calculated.


The typically won't have six pack abs or large arms. The reason sprinters and UFC fighters also lift heavy in the gym is because it's the only way to get a significant muscle gain.



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26 Apr 2012, 3:13 pm

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Maybe Frank Zane is a bad example. Why is Robert Pattinson better looking than this?
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He isn't. This guy is very hot. Pattinson isn't, to me. Pattinson is "pretty". Yuck. JMHO.

Of course, tastes change over a lifetime. I'm in my 40's, so that could inform my tastes, as well. :wink:

I never did like the pretty look, though. Never.



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26 Apr 2012, 3:14 pm

Haha, maybe I have an image of what Working Men look like from porn, who knows... :P :lol: Don't forget we're AS here. :wink: Anyway, I'm ready to admit my mistake.


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26 Apr 2012, 3:28 pm

Attractive.....

Honestly, integrity, sense of humour, easy going.....

Unattractive, temper, lying, drugs, permiscuity......

PHYSICALLY???? only thing I am attracted to is a sparkle in their eye...

unattractive.....Hrmmmm. really don't care.... maybe too fat, like HUGE too fat..... huggabear fat is fine, just not could keel over any day fat...



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26 Apr 2012, 3:40 pm

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Most women I know in this life care about the male's looks.

Why else women drool on celebs like Georges Clooney.

Twilight anyone? Why Harry Potter isn't as popularly admired by girls?

Duh, stop claiming that females are superior in that regard.

DW_a_mom, sometimes, I wonder from what planet you are.

Anyways, there's no dubious reason for making this thread, it's just a copy of the other thread.


What planet am I on? The one where I've dated quite a variety men and am now quite happily married, hanging out mostly with other people who are quite happily married. The one where I know the difference between fantasy and reality.

Since this is the love and dating board, there is something I think posters hoping to find the real thing need to understand: there is, in my experience, based off my life and the women I am close to, a world of difference between drooling/fawning/acting like a love-crazed tween and the reality of dating/marriage. One is fantasy and one is reality, and in my experience reality is much, much, much better than fantasy. Fantasy is tons of fun and it has its place, and women can even bond over it, but it often, in my experience, has more to do with what you don't really want than what you really do.

All that said, in the light of good fun:

Eyes and smiles. Those are my biggest turn ons. Not that a good body hurts, but a good body without the eyes and the smile is nothing.


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26 Apr 2012, 3:44 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Most women I know in this life care about the male's looks.

Why else women drool on celebs like Georges Clooney.

Twilight anyone? Why Harry Potter isn't as popularly admired by girls?

Duh, stop claiming that females are superior in that regard.

DW_a_mom, sometimes, I wonder from what planet you are.

Anyways, there's no dubious reason for making this thread, it's just a copy of the other thread.

of course looks are important to women - nobody said it was not the case.

Harry Potter is massively popular with girls, actually. but they are definitely younger as it is a children's book and not aimed at adult women.

and you are pushing this to the realm of a personal attack on DW_A_Mom. knock it off.


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26 Apr 2012, 5:12 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Most women I know in this life care about the male's looks.

Why else women drool on celebs like Georges Clooney.

Twilight anyone? Why Harry Potter isn't as popularly admired by girls?

Duh, stop claiming that females are superior in that regard.

DW_a_mom, sometimes, I wonder from what planet you are.

Anyways, there's no dubious reason for making this thread, it's just a copy of the other thread.

of course looks are important to women - nobody said it was not the case.

Harry Potter is massively popular with girls, actually. but they are definitely younger as it is a children's book and not aimed at adult women.


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Harry Potter is massively popular with girls, actually. but they are definitely younger as it is a children's book and not aimed at adult women.


No, harry potten, even the older version of Harry Potter was never ever a sex symbol among teen girls like that twilight dude.
and you are pushing this to the realm of a personal attack on DW_A_Mom. knock it off.


Well her 'dubious reasons' comment was in the real of a personal attack on me , so she better to knock it off too.



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26 Apr 2012, 5:18 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Most women I know in this life care about the male's looks.

Why else women drool on celebs like Georges Clooney.

Twilight anyone? Why Harry Potter isn't as popularly admired by girls?

Duh, stop claiming that females are superior in that regard.

DW_a_mom, sometimes, I wonder from what planet you are.

Anyways, there's no dubious reason for making this thread, it's just a copy of the other thread.


What planet am I on? The one where I've dated quite a variety men and am now quite happily married, hanging out mostly with other people who are quite happily married. The one where I know the difference between fantasy and reality.

Since this is the love and dating board, there is something I think posters hoping to find the real thing need to understand: there is, in my experience, based off my life and the women I am close to, a world of difference between drooling/fawning/acting like a love-crazed tween and the reality of dating/marriage. One is fantasy and one is reality, and in my experience reality is much, much, much better than fantasy. Fantasy is tons of fun and it has its place, and women can even bond over it, but it often, in my experience, has more to do with what you don't really want than what you really do.

All that said, in the light of good fun:

Eyes and smiles. Those are my biggest turn ons. Not that a good body hurts, but a good body without the eyes and the smile is nothing.


There was a stats okcupid study showing that women only rate a minority of men as hot-looking, much less than men who rate a large portion of women as hot-looking.

So if this is true, a lot of women have no choice but to pick men who are much less "hot-looking" than their fantasies. Give them more choices, and things would be too different.



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26 Apr 2012, 5:46 pm

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I find these features (most) attractive:

Swimmers build. Too much bulk is just scary... though I have recently found a couple of muscly guys physically appealing for some reason.
I find I have little preference for eye colour, though contrasting, deep eyes are very appealing. Dark colours, for instance.
Taller than I is a preference, for sure. I'm 180cm, so it's pretty hard to find taller men.
Soft lips!
Working hands >.>
Facial hair!
Body hair!
mmm.... body hair... Actually, nothing is more attractive than chest hair :P


Blooooooom.......... "WE'RE GETTING CLOSER!! !!" (Bloom old quote :lol:)
I do not shave anymore!! ! Okay okay, I have to admit, I do not shave "frequently" :wink:


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26 Apr 2012, 6:07 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Most women I know in this life care about the male's looks.

Why else women drool on celebs like Georges Clooney.

Twilight anyone? Why Harry Potter isn't as popularly admired by girls?

Duh, stop claiming that females are superior in that regard.

DW_a_mom, sometimes, I wonder from what planet you are.

Anyways, there's no dubious reason for making this thread, it's just a copy of the other thread.

of course looks are important to women - nobody said it was not the case.

Harry Potter is massively popular with girls, actually. but they are definitely younger as it is a children's book and not aimed at adult women.


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Harry Potter is massively popular with girls, actually. but they are definitely younger as it is a children's book and not aimed at adult women.


No, harry potten, even the older version of Harry Potter was never ever a sex symbol among teen girls like that twilight dude.
and you are pushing this to the realm of a personal attack on DW_A_Mom. knock it off.


Well her 'dubious reasons' comment was in the real of a personal attack on me , so she better to knock it off too.

Harry Potter is/was was a sex symbol - just with a younger set. i am particularly aware of this as i had a teenager of the applicable age with applicable friends.

her statement that you have created a thread for dubious reasons is not an attack. you have created several threads for dubious reasons in recent times.


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26 Apr 2012, 6:10 pm

Kurgan wrote:
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I personally think body-building is good for men who don't want to sag at an old age, but a lot of young people have good muscle mass naturally, why do they work hard to develop it even more? It's something to do, but I never really got why...


Nobody has six-pack abs or big arms naturally.

It actually depends on what line of work they do, for example, and I hope you'll excuse using the same example I've used in another thread, construction workers would be more muscular than someone working in a bank... Especially if they have an active lifestyle in addition. But not on a body-building level, because body builders do not only work on their muscles, they also eat a lot of protein etc. and that lifestyle is very calculated.


The typically won't have six pack abs or large arms. The reason sprinters and UFC fighters also lift heavy in the gym is because it's the only way to get a significant muscle gain.

i dated a rock landscaper, and he had naturally big arms and a 6-pack. he did not go to the gym or lift weights.


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26 Apr 2012, 6:41 pm

Attractive: intellect, wit, gentleness, humility. Honestly, I tend to notice people of either gender for the way they conduct themselves moreso than for their build or features. As proof of this, I met and fell in love with my current partner of almost 2 years on the internet via text only at first, and we then spoke with voice only for some time before either of us started using a webcam. Someone who seems thoughtful, curious, and somewhat awkward (other aspie-ish types or just nerds, I suppose) is always more interesting to me than someone who acts either surly-boring or bubbly-fake. BUT I suppose if I had to pick purely physical traits that interest me... eyes, mouth, and hands; and I think eyeglasses look really good.

Were I single and looking, hypothetically I would be more likely to gravitate toward a man who was androgynous in appearance rather than an athletic type; I imagine this is because I assume those men to have more in common with me and be less likely to be jerks. As a teenager I had an unfortunate habit of falling for boys/men who turned out to be gay. I guess I was being socially stupid as usual because I always seemed to be the last to know. My partner now is not very masculine and I'm not very feminine (we are about the same height, we wear similar clothing and my hair is shorter than his at the moment :) ) and neither of us would have it any differently. People say that we are a cute couple when we are together. We do not use stereotypical gender roles in our relationship or communicate those roles to me son, and our somewhat unconventional appearance reflects that attitude.

Unattractive: Morbid obesity (I don't mind anything from skinny through overweight, but not to dangerous extremes); smoking/drinking/substance use; giant muscles.

As a disclaimer, however, I do not find Robert whatever his name is from those vampire movies the slightest bit attractive. No offense to anyone who does like him, but he creeps me out and I would probably run away if I saw someone who looked like him.



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26 Apr 2012, 9:06 pm

I'd just like to point out that, as someone with an intimate knowledge of human physiology; all musculature can happen "naturally" for given instances, or definitions of "nature." If you'd like my lecture on anthropo- muscle development, send me a PM. Though, be prepared; my base is in evolutionary genetics, so you might need to take notes. :)

You can carry on, now. :)



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26 Apr 2012, 9:32 pm

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I've always wondered why girls are turned on by Robert Pattinson. The guy isn't masculine and he's quite skinny.


I, personally, prefer thinner men. I don't really know why. I'm not terribly into Pattinson. Though, I'm not terribly into vampires, either. When I gave my list of physical features, those were just preferences, they weren't things I needed. I've dated a wide range of "types", though if I collated and examined the lot, I'd have to say many of them fell into the "slimmer" category. There are a couple of men and women that I've dated that have left my colleagues perplexed... Simply, it wasn't the way the person looked, or the way they dressed, or the car they drove, but it was the way the person treated me, or how I felt around him or her.

I, for instance, have tattoos, piercings, and oddly coloured hair. You'd never guess, ever, ever, that I was the director of a research lab, or a clinician; at least, not by looking at me. Sometimes, not even by talking to me... Can you BELIEVE that Diablo III is ALMOST here?! Stars! And I tend to date men that don't mind my appearance - make up and all. I wear beanies a lot :P I have a black, Jack Skellington lab coat... My colleagues rarely approve of my choices in men, or women.

I suppose there are people that wouldn't consider me "feminine" either... I mean, what woman has TATTOOS?! Listens to Band of Skulls?! Does SCIENCE?! Climbs trees... wants to stab you in the face when you call her "Cute" :) Or, for that matter, sleeps with other women...

And don't even ask my mom what she thinks about how feminine I am... HA!

As I've read the two topics that have been posted on these two subjects, though, I've noticed a lot of sniping... and a lot of people posting defensively... a lot of non-support. It's unfortunate that a community based on people that have enough strikes against them are so ready to find the negative social markers and point them out, and hold them against each other.

Are you looking for a reason to dislike me? Cause I've got plenty! One eye is bigger than the other, and I have a hair that likes to grow right next to my left nipple (I pluck the bugger every second Wednesday!). I'm a clinician that works with incredible people with ...issues, and I persistently try to help people understand the psychological world (AKA: I'm just another know it all!). I can be snarky as hell, I make jokes at everything, I laugh, I get emotional, and apparently I say HA! a lot! I also have a nasty habit of correcting people! I HATE to wear shoes, and I don't wear them most places - including my lab. I'm not wearing them NOW. Oh, and you know what REALLY ticks people off? I'm VERBOSE :P

So! While you folks continue to fight, argue, find reasons to be better than, attack, and defend, I'm going to go find the place where we're ALL different, and yet have something in common - a place where we're encouraged to support each other, and build each other up, and emphasize our strengths, and highlight out successes.

When you lovely people get done flashing half-naked people at each other, and arguing over .01% of my freakin' hip ratio, I'll be on the other planet... come have a cuppa with me - we'll have a chat about something important, yanno, like ...you :)

Righto! Sorry for interrupting... have at it!



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26 Apr 2012, 10:12 pm

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If you're sensative to BO I do not recommend you attend a metal concert :twisted:, because there will be much sweat, B.O possibly the smell of beer or mayben even cannabis.


Don't worry, I am just as sensitive to noise and crowds as I am to smell. I don't want listen to my music anywhere but in the quiet of my house. With the volume turned down. :lol:



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27 Apr 2012, 5:58 am

hyperlexian wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Bun wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Bun wrote:
I personally think body-building is good for men who don't want to sag at an old age, but a lot of young people have good muscle mass naturally, why do they work hard to develop it even more? It's something to do, but I never really got why...


Nobody has six-pack abs or big arms naturally.

It actually depends on what line of work they do, for example, and I hope you'll excuse using the same example I've used in another thread, construction workers would be more muscular than someone working in a bank... Especially if they have an active lifestyle in addition. But not on a body-building level, because body builders do not only work on their muscles, they also eat a lot of protein etc. and that lifestyle is very calculated.


The typically won't have six pack abs or large arms. The reason sprinters and UFC fighters also lift heavy in the gym is because it's the only way to get a significant muscle gain.

i dated a rock landscaper, and he had naturally big arms and a 6-pack. he did not go to the gym or lift weights.


Only 3% of the population have arms bigger than 16" and genuine six-pack (more than just the contours) abs typically require a bodyfat percentage of 8 and large abdominal muscles, typically requiring at least six months of continuous deadlifting. I somehow doubt that.