Men, Math and Marriage--arguments against marriage

Page 9 of 12 [ 177 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12  Next

appletheclown
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Apr 2013
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,378
Location: Soul Society

09 May 2013, 3:47 pm

AnonymousGIrl wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
AnonymousGIrl wrote:
kouzoku wrote:
How about this: Society encourages the sexes to hate each other. That's what I think. Too much battle of the sexes, even on jovial terms (like game shows for instance). Why do we always need pissing contests between the sexes?


Possibly because of gender roles like the guy is dominant the gal is submissive, the guy is the follow the gal is the leader, the guy is the captain the gal is the first mate. Those gender roles seem to make interaction a power play and gender identity since if the guy doesn't wear the pants aka isn't dominating, leading, or the one in charge he's less of a guy and she's less of a gal.


Image


I'm unsure what the picture's purpose is? If it's to say what I stated isn't the gender roles then that picture isn't supporting such as it shows a gal being 'unfeminine' alooking angry, violent, and unattractive typical of the overbearing nagging female partner trope which in turn 'shames' the male in the relationship as being a lesser male for having her wear the pants.


Can we please calm down about this though, this whole mess is making the both of us mad.


_________________
comedic burp


kouzoku
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2011
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 660

09 May 2013, 3:50 pm

AnonymousGIrl wrote:
kouzoku wrote:
My experience in contrary; I've seen that in many families I've known, the women are actually the ones who make most of the decisions and call the shots. And I live in the midwest!


Interesting the only decision making I've seen most married gals have is household/childcare duties. Are you talking about household/childcare decisions as technically since they are day-to-day events often the gal is the sole/main one doing it is the bulk of the decisions?


No, I meant what I said. "Make most of the decisions and call the shots."



BlueMax
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Aug 2007
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,285

09 May 2013, 4:09 pm

appletheclown wrote:
Can we please calm down about this though, this whole mess is making the both of us mad.


I wouldn't back down too quickly though - it's all part of the strategy to "gnaw at your opponent relentlessly until they give up - then you win!"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCsUpggXqbQ[/youtube]



BlueMax
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Aug 2007
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,285

09 May 2013, 4:25 pm

Anomiel wrote:
BlueMax wrote:

Think I'm over-reacting? It's happened to me and my friends often enough to agree with the stats.

...and I want my dang kids back from their legal kidnapper mother.


You should really be ashamed of yourself. You think YOUR SUFFERING trumps statistics? Why? Because it's happened to you? You don't think women have had atrocities committed against them that are far worse than being incapable of caring for your kids? But because you aren't a woman and haven't had it happen to you (duh) it doesn't EXIST?
Here's the link I posted earlier, which might actually do you some f*****g good.


My personal experience AGREES with the statistics. And if you really feel that all men deserve punishment for the atrocities of a few (especially from the PAST) then you need to also do the same. Go outside, find the first black person you can, and become their slave. That's right. Because whites owned black slaves in the past, they must forever pay for the crimes of their ancestors by becoming slaves themselves.

Not exactly "justice" or "fair" is it?

And thanks for assuming I was "incapable of caring for my kids" when I was the one doing all the cooking, cleaning, teaching AND working while she did nothing at all, then took them so she could get free child support money. That was a nice low blow.

Also interesting how much feminists hate the MRA (which I've never associated with)... the idea that things are unfair in women's favour in any way is appalling to them, and they must fight to shame and discredit wherever possible in the quest for ever more power, wealth and control. Since you've already passed the point of equality and still aren't happy - when will you be? Some feminists say not until all men are subservient, others when all men are in jail, others when men make less than 10% of the world population, others when all men are dead.

So much for equality... this is about domination - and that's more evil than the dead patriarchy ever was.



appletheclown
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Apr 2013
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,378
Location: Soul Society

09 May 2013, 4:41 pm

Image

That is real life,
but so is this, and both are attractive......
Image

Altoids, take them from me, I dare you! Muahahahahaaah!! !


_________________
comedic burp


DialAForAwesome
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Oct 2011
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,189
Location: That place with the thing

09 May 2013, 4:45 pm

I tell ya Max, it's like talking to the rock of Gibraltar.


_________________
I don't trust anyone because I'm cynical.
I'm cynical because I don't trust anyone.


AnonymousGIrl
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 23 Oct 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 100

09 May 2013, 4:46 pm

BlueMax wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Can we please calm down about this though, this whole mess is making the both of us mad.


I wouldn't back down too quickly though - it's all part of the strategy to "gnaw at your opponent relentlessly until they give up - then you win!"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCsUpggXqbQ[/youtube]


I haven't gnawed at anyone in anything I've been gnawed because it seems not going on and on about how oh so great guys when the topic isn't about that is somehow disliking guys and thinking men are all violent... 8O Still have yet to get an answer on why no different than I've yet to get an answer from you on how I'm using a slogan or some of the same battle cries.



AnonymousGIrl
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 23 Oct 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 100

09 May 2013, 4:47 pm

kouzoku wrote:
No, I meant what I said. "Make most of the decisions and call the shots."

Interesting I'd be curious to see such a dynamic. Is it like the portrayal of the unhappy henpecked male partner and the nagging shrew of a female partner?



Last edited by AnonymousGIrl on 09 May 2013, 4:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

AnonymousGIrl
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 23 Oct 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 100

09 May 2013, 4:54 pm

appletheclown wrote:
I am upset, stop being so stinking dark! Women and men do great things, I never said women do not do great things! Why does this topic have to have such an attitude being tossed around with it? You don't think I am upset about you not saying a word about women being good? You don't think I don't know there are a large number of women who are just as abusive and messed up as men? You don't think for one second mentioning how guys can be bad and not mentioning how girls can be bad might make some men who don't do that crap mad? Maybe we both need to calm down! And when I first replied, "Is every one here an idiot....", I wasn't implying anything, I was being aspie like and directly asking if everyone here is an idiot, not pointing out you mentioned anything! this whole argument you started is for nothing! I was pointing out men do good things too, and I will admit, I did not acknowledge women play a role too, and may have bashed feminism, but sometimes feminism grill guys completely innocent of anything, and makes them have to deal with nitpicky BS, so I'm sorry if I was a little rash.

I didn't state you never said gals don't do great things I did question how come you're only upset that I'm not talking about how good guys are when I also didn't talk about how good gals are.

I also didn't mention how guys can be bad without mentioning how gals can be bad as recall I said:
Gals can wave their finger at a gal and magically she's the bad gal.
Guys can wave their finger at a gal and magically she's the bad gal.
Gals can wave their finger at a guy and magically he's the bad guy.
Guys can wave their finger at a guy and magically he's the bad guy.

Show me where I said guys can be bad without mentioning how gals can be bad? Oh that's right because I didn't.



AnonymousGIrl
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 23 Oct 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 100

09 May 2013, 4:55 pm

appletheclown wrote:
AnonymousGIrl wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Anomiel wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
Well that makes sense I guess. Women's suffering is all men's fault, and men's suffering is all men's fault as well. :roll:


The idea of "traditional masculinity", and that men should be violent etc, is an idea uphold by all genders of society. If you can't understand something, then you ASK QUESTIONS.



Violent? Hmm, don't blame society for everything. Men are not completely responsible for the world's hurt, not by a long-shot.


Egh blaming society isn't holding guys completely responsible as society is made of both genders. She even states this is upheld by all genders. Where did you get this solely blaming men?


Because you didn't blame women who do bad sh** stupid!

Blaming all genders is blaming gals. :?



appletheclown
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Apr 2013
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,378
Location: Soul Society

09 May 2013, 4:56 pm

AnonymousGIrl wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Can we please calm down about this though, this whole mess is making the both of us mad.


I wouldn't back down too quickly though - it's all part of the strategy to "gnaw at your opponent relentlessly until they give up - then you win!"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCsUpggXqbQ[/youtube]


I haven't gnawed at anyone in anything I've been gnawed because it seems not going on and on about how oh so great guys when the topic isn't about that is somehow disliking guys and thinking men are all violent... 8O Still have yet to get an answer on why no different than I've yet to get an answer from you on how I'm using a slogan or some of the same battle cries.


No, the exact reason why we keep this going is because you don't for a second think you are even being a little bit unfair in your ASSumptions. How is "a large amount of men want to treat women like cattle" not insulting to us guys who are the very opposite? I'm not telling you you are blowing this out of proportion, but you could have said "a large amount of men want to treat women like cattle, but i'm sure none of you guys do.", which would have killed this bickering as fast as a bunker buster to the head.


_________________
comedic burp


appletheclown
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Apr 2013
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,378
Location: Soul Society

09 May 2013, 4:59 pm

AnonymousGIrl wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
AnonymousGIrl wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Anomiel wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
Well that makes sense I guess. Women's suffering is all men's fault, and men's suffering is all men's fault as well. :roll:


The idea of "traditional masculinity", and that men should be violent etc, is an idea uphold by all genders of society. If you can't understand something, then you ASK QUESTIONS.



Violent? Hmm, don't blame society for everything. Men are not completely responsible for the world's hurt, not by a long-shot.


Egh blaming society isn't holding guys completely responsible as society is made of both genders. She even states this is upheld by all genders.[/i] Where did you get this solely blaming men?


Because [i]you
(NOT ANOMIEL) didn't blame women who do bad sh** stupid!

Blaming all genders is blaming gals. :?

Those were not your words to speak! Anomiel had that opinion first!


_________________
comedic burp


AnonymousGIrl
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 23 Oct 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 100

09 May 2013, 5:01 pm

appletheclown wrote:
No, the exact reason why we keep this going is because you don't for a second think you are even being a little bit unfair in your ASSumptions. How is "a large amount of men want to treat women like cattle" not insulting to us guys who are the very opposite? I'm not telling you you are blowing this out of proportion, but you could have said "a large amount of men want to treat women like cattle, but i'm sure none of you guys do.", which would have killed this bickering as fast as a bunker buster to the head.

No more like the reason you keep this going as you're the only other one talking about this. It's not unfair or insulting to guys who are the very opposite because it's not talking about them nor is it making it a characteristic innate in guys to treat gals as such. No different than saying "a large amount of people are greedy" is not insulting to those that aren't greedy.

I could have said what you put that however I see no reason as I'm not accusing anyone of being part of that large amount. Stating it exists is not an attack on guys or an accusation.



Last edited by AnonymousGIrl on 09 May 2013, 5:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

kouzoku
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2011
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 660

09 May 2013, 5:02 pm

AnonymousGIrl wrote:
kouzoku wrote:
No, I meant what I said. "Make most of the decisions and call the shots."

Interesting I'd be curious to see such a dynamic. Is it like the portrayal of the unhappy henpecked male partner and the nagging shrew of a female partner?


See, you keep making assumptions. You will not accept a scenario where women have it better. I'm done here.



AnonymousGIrl
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 23 Oct 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 100

09 May 2013, 5:10 pm

kouzoku wrote:
AnonymousGIrl wrote:
kouzoku wrote:
No, I meant what I said. "Make most of the decisions and call the shots."

Interesting I'd be curious to see such a dynamic. Is it like the portrayal of the unhappy henpecked male partner and the nagging shrew of a female partner?


See, you keep making assumptions. You will not accept a scenario where women have it better. I'm done here.

You're the one making assumptions asking what if it's like is not making an assumption it's asking a question. My description is not a scenario were gals have it better as being a nagging shrew is not better in my opinion.



Last edited by AnonymousGIrl on 09 May 2013, 5:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

AnonymousGIrl
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 23 Oct 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 100

09 May 2013, 5:10 pm

appletheclown wrote:
AnonymousGIrl wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
AnonymousGIrl wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Anomiel wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
Well that makes sense I guess. Women's suffering is all men's fault, and men's suffering is all men's fault as well. :roll:


The idea of "traditional masculinity", and that men should be violent etc, is an idea uphold by all genders of society. If you can't understand something, then you ASK QUESTIONS.



Violent? Hmm, don't blame society for everything. Men are not completely responsible for the world's hurt, not by a long-shot.


Egh blaming society isn't holding guys completely responsible as society is made of both genders. She even states this is upheld by all genders.[/i] Where did you get this solely blaming men?


Because [i]you
(NOT ANOMIEL) didn't blame women who do bad sh** stupid!

Blaming all genders is blaming gals. :?

Those were not your words to speak! Anomiel had that opinion first!


As for your clarification on your perception I didn't blame gals who do bad sh** again show me where I only blamed guys who did bad sh** when I stated:
Gals can wave their finger at a gal and magically she's the bad gal.
Guys can wave their finger at a gal and magically she's the bad gal.
Gals can wave their finger at a guy and magically he's the bad guy.
Guys can wave their finger at a guy and magically he's the bad guy.