Men, Math and Marriage--arguments against marriage

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I have support for his point-of-view and counter-arguments to offer.

The support being me extending this not marrying to apply to gals as well as I find marriage to be quite disadvantageous to gals as it seems gals tend to be regarded as sexual objects to obliged for him to bust a nut in or on, do most of the household/childcare work while contributing financially, and their needs/wants/concerns are dismissed and if mentioned are considered nagging. In my opinion I see no reason for a gal to marry unless she wants to be a maid, cook, nanny, blow up doll who is regarded by her partner as a ball and chain that is oh so lucky to have him.

My counter-arguments being on why the divorce rate is higher and marriage being some advantage to gal...lmfao @ that notion.

Gotta say, I cant confirm your studies. So I googled around and the studies I found said that men would be more cheating, or that its rather equal, only that women are more on cheating in there 20-30s, and men more in their 30-50s. But normally the statistics are pretty similar, so normally its only about 5-10% more men then woman, so when it comes to 55% cheating men and "only" 50% cheating women, I really dont care for that small difference.

The only study I found, expressing that women would do more cheating is the Fox study.. which is from Fox. ^^

http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/chea ... elity.html

http://www.statisticbrain.com/infidelity-statistics/

http://www.catalogs.com/info/relationsh ... ch-ot.html

http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/ ... stats.html

When it comes to who has advantage or not, when you divorce: Simply care for it. Every country has laws for a divorce. Before you marry, go together somewhere, where you can inform yourself both about these laws. If parts of the local laws dont agree with you, then you can do an additional wedding contract. There is nothing bad about it. In my country you are told "Always read before you sign a contract." And a wedding is also a kind of signing a contract, because in the moment you are married, the wedding laws of your countries force a contract on you, according to the standard laws. So even if you dont have an additional wedding contract, every couple that marries has automatic the standard contract. This has not to be a bad thing, but if you dont buy internet without reading the contract, if you dont buy a car without reading the contract...why the hell shouldnt you simply go with your partner and inform both yourself about the contract you are going to sign? I have told my partner years ago, that I want to do so, not because I dont trust him, but simply because both of us dont know anything about the marrying and divorce laws of my country, so its a good thing to be informed about it.

As example I inherited the house of my grandaunt, and my family wouldnt want, that in case of an divorce my partner would keep the house, no problem if you agree with each other. On the other side an aunt of him wants to give him money so we can build rooms for the children, and with her its the same: If we divorce she would be unhappy if I kept the whole advantage with the house with the new rooms...everything no problem as long as you talk about it, while you are not in divorce-ragemode.

So instead of mourning, take your partner, go to an office that will inform you, and do so. Simply talk about it and inform yourself together, while you are able to do so in a fair and polite way. Its not about tricking the partner, its simply to prevent that both of you will later be tricked by both your lawyers bill. Because everything that you will do afterward, will cost you lots of unnecessary money, both of you could use better. (I simply remember a coworker of me, that needed to pay 50 EUR only so that a lawyer put an official stamp on a paper. O_o )

The 5% difference is probably due to the fact that men tend to have sex with younger women and vice versa, and the younger women are more likely to be single hence not doing 'cheating'.

I feel like I am in a tank bursting through the Berlin wall, eating bear legs and grouse liver shouting, PRIMO VICTORIA! What is so bad about marriage if it makes me feel like I am doing that with a sexy lady who I am married to?

You could quote a million links, Tyrion, the people from the zealot camp will concede nothing. I remember reading the manifesto of ~50 rules such as; "NEVER give an inch, no matter how right they are!" "If they make a valid point, ridicule it so no one will take it seriously."

His personal experience from the law firm with 90% majority in one direction should be convincing enough... you'll note how that point (among others) was conveniently ignored. That's what bugs me about modern feminism... there's no objectivity, no fairness, no real desire for equality... only self-interest and destroying the opponent. If they cared about what was best for the kids, they wouldn't be working so hard to destroy their fathers (not to mention those people in happy marriages!)

Unfortunately, this is why marriage is simply a bad idea for men today... there's a very, very low chance of finding someone who is genuinely kind, MEANS their marriage vows of "for life", and puts someone else's interests before her own. (Of course, the husband is also supposed to be putting her interests before his - so if both people are doing what they should, both parties will be very pleased with the other!)

I'd love to be married to a good person not taken over by greed... any volunteers?

while I think a lot of the trouble is due to the Entitled Princess Mentality (curse you, Benjamin Spock!), I think the guy doesn't consider the possibility that meeting a woman who is on the pill AND dating her is the worst decision any man who wants to ever have kids could ever make.

If she never goes off the pill and they never spawn, they will probably be fine. But the minute she does, (or several weeks later, when the effects of the pill's hormones completely wear off), there is a good chance she'll realize that suddenly, the man is incompatible! Science has proven this.