A new aspergers dating site called Spectrum Singles

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15 Apr 2015, 4:23 am

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Hello!

I am Olivia Cantu, co-founder of SpectrumSingles.com :mrgreen:

I have briefly lurked on WrongPlanet before, but joined today as to better be able to reach out to people who have seen and discussed the SpectrumSingles Website. Yes, we are women. :lol: If you need more proof you can see us on Facebook... or me in the HuffPost Live interview with the directors of the new film Autism in Love... Also we will be uploading youtube videos soon of us explaining some stuff and you again can double-check that we are women.



Why should we care that you are women?



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15 Apr 2015, 4:32 am

The site looks seriously second rate, it is so bad that I am considering building my own. I wouldn't release it until it was a finished product (or at least close to one) and I think I'd make it ad supported - nobody likes ads but I really despise paywalls, that site is also a bit of a joke wrt what you have to pay for (forum privileges? yeah sure xD). I had a few cool ideas too but I don't feel it's wise to give everything away.

Verdict: great idea, terrible execution



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15 Apr 2015, 3:33 pm

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I just signed up and it seems cool. I was surprised that the Spectrum Questionnaire was basically the questions from the AQ with some extra questions at the end.

Cringe cringe cringe. They used the same questions but changed the scale! You can't ask how frequently you frequently do something, but well, that have! And there's nothing in between "frequently" and "rarely"...that's a huge gap there, and a lot of my answers would fall somewhere in that gap rather than at one of those options. The original AQ has the options "strongly agree" "agree" "disagree" and "strongly disagree" which is also not flawless but makes a lot more sense. Baron-Cohen must be rolling his eyes at this.

Though the AQ tests were typically scored on just the "agree"/"disagree". Ignoring of this was "strong" or not.

[quoteThings like this surprise me, how an aspie (the site creator), who would stereotypically be detail-orientated, could fail to see what they have done.[/quote]



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15 Apr 2015, 3:45 pm

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Though the AQ tests were typically scored on just the "agree"/"disagree". Ignoring of this was "strong" or not.


Yes. The AQ test has 4 alternatives, but they are aggregated into only two when scoring. No idea why they made this strange design. It could be because autistic and non-autistic people use large Likert-scales differently.



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15 Apr 2015, 3:57 pm

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I just registered and did their test. They use lots of stereotypes in the test (mostly borrowed from the AQ test and similar). They have a single question linked to asexuality, and then one question that presumes that hugging and kissing are similar (what an awful expectation that people that dislike kissing also dislike hugging). There is absolutely nothing about attachment-style, or any other neurodiverse relationship preference. Additionally, there are detailed LGBT-options, but none of those are linked to neurodiversity so that seems unnecessary. The test is also overloaded with sensory-related issues that are highly correlated.


There is also a lack of relationship paradigm questions. Which makes little sense since the target demographic is more likely to include people who want something other than co-habiting vanilla monogamy. About the only options appear to be "friendship" or "relationship". Self evidently they don't believe neurodiverse relationship anarchists exist.

The LGBT options don't make a lot of sense anyway. With there being no obvious setting for sexual orientation.

The offered "matches" appear to be given on a "distance is no object" basis :)



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15 Apr 2015, 4:03 pm

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Self evidently they don't believe neurodiverse relationship anarchists exist.

Or maybe they simply didn't consider whatever "neurodiverse relationship anarchy" means?



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15 Apr 2015, 4:03 pm

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Just created a temporary profile. I like the idea, but they have a long way to go. If they could copy OKC's questioning format and searching format it would be a lot easier to use.

But probably avoid the OKC questions. Especially the ones full of logical fallacies.



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15 Apr 2015, 4:17 pm

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There is also a lack of relationship paradigm questions. Which makes little sense since the target demographic is more likely to include people who want something other than co-habiting vanilla monogamy. About the only options appear to be "friendship" or "relationship". Self evidently they don't believe neurodiverse relationship anarchists exist.


Yes, polyamory and time alone requirements (was that one there??) should be in any neurodiverse matching algorithm, but so should attachment style because when this is different it can create a lot of pain. In addition to that, asexuality, BD/SM and hugging vs kissing should also be there. Then, ideally, there should be some special accommodations for shy people so they dare to set up meetings.



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15 Apr 2015, 4:20 pm

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Though the AQ tests were typically scored on just the "agree"/"disagree". Ignoring of this was "strong" or not.


Yes. The AQ test has 4 alternatives, but they are aggregated into only two when scoring. No idea why they made this strange design. It could be because autistic and non-autistic people use large Likert-scales differently.

It makes little sense to me. Since it equates to ignoring part of the answer which has been specifically requested. They might just as well ask "agree"/"disagree". Even that's missing "don't care" and "it depends on something else".



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15 Apr 2015, 4:25 pm

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Even that's missing "don't care" and "it depends on something else".


That's typically hard to handle in tests with fixed cutoffs, like the AQ test. You basically cannot omit answers in the AQ-test without affecting scores.



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15 Apr 2015, 4:30 pm

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Even that's missing "don't care" and "it depends on something else".


That's typically hard to handle in tests with fixed cutoffs, like the AQ test. You basically cannot omit answers in the AQ-test without affecting scores.

I'd suspect that some of the questions being vague and broad can also affect the scores. I guess these tests were created by NTs...



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15 Apr 2015, 11:37 pm

rdos wrote:
mpe wrote:
Though the AQ tests were typically scored on just the "agree"/"disagree". Ignoring of this was "strong" or not.


Yes. The AQ test has 4 alternatives, but they are aggregated into only two when scoring. No idea why they made this strange design. It could be because autistic and non-autistic people use large Likert-scales differently.

From memory, they found it made no significant difference to score it on the four point scale, compared to two. However when I studied it, I did find a difference, and I preferred the results using the four point scale, so I dunno. But it certainly makes it easier for a person to ANSWER, even if it makes no difference to the scoring. Part of survey design is creating a pleasant experience for the respondent.



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16 Apr 2015, 2:23 am

How about a dating site without the stupid questionnaires and the stupid matching things altogether?

Let the person's looks and basic info be the front, and people explore further thro conversation, like in real life?



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16 Apr 2015, 2:39 am

If you're going to go down that way, why bother with a site at all ?

The whole point of online dating is to have a different game field from real life dating, I'm gathering.
And for AS this probably means the site needs to work as a crutch.



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16 Apr 2015, 2:52 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
How about a dating site without the stupid questionnaires and the stupid matching things altogether?

Let the person's looks and basic info be the front, and people explore further thro conversation, like in real life?


you mean like tinder, bumble, and okc/pof, quick match systems?

personally i enjoy the questions and lots of information. I need it to start conversations and it gives me a whole lot more to decide whether we would match then a picture and their age do. though I value personality and interest over looks and status, so I'm odd.



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16 Apr 2015, 5:54 am

sly279 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
How about a dating site without the stupid questionnaires and the stupid matching things altogether?

Let the person's looks and basic info be the front, and people explore further thro conversation, like in real life?


you mean like tinder, bumble, and okc/pof, quick match systems?

personally i enjoy the questions and lots of information. I need it to start conversations and it gives me a whole lot more to decide whether we would match then a picture and their age do. though I value personality and interest over looks and status, so I'm odd.


A finely sculpted profile will not reflect true personality; direct interaction is way more genuine.