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KevinLA
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03 Nov 2012, 6:02 pm

No. This is not one of those threads.

I watch all of the Real Housewives shows on Bravo. Mostly on how to make friends and get along with others. Although, half the time they are fighting. I learn from their mistakes.

Anyway, I was watching the RHW of Miami. One of the women is pretty popular. She has a lot of what people on this board would describe as friends. She goes to social events, other people call her, she calls them, they go out to dinner.

The last episode, she made the comment, "I don't have any friends." She was being sincere. I have heard this comment before from people who seeming have friends by the definition of people on this board.

I believe one thing that hurts our ability to make friends is our definition of a friend. NTs view a friend as someone on the surface to socialize with. We view a friend on a deeper level as someone we can rely on and talk about our feelings.

If we changed our definition of friends, we would make more friends.



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03 Nov 2012, 7:56 pm

I think it's ultimately better for us that we have this different definition of friend! Since we don't do "small talk" for the most part, we'll be way happier with just ONE true friend (by our definition) who we can share feelings and talk about meaningful stuff to, than 1,000 people we make small talk to but little else!

I think the whole friend numbers game (which the shallower definition of friend allows for the winning of) is completely stupid, creating drama without doing any good, and I REFUSE TO PLAY IT.


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03 Nov 2012, 9:09 pm

I'm confused. When you say "this board" do you mean this one right here? You say on this board the definition of friend is someone to socialise with, but then you say "we" view a friend as something deeper. Can you clarify? Cheers.



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03 Nov 2012, 9:59 pm

KevinLA wrote:
NTs view a friend as someone on the surface to socialize with. We view a friend on a deeper level as someone we can rely on and talk about our feelings.


No...not necessarily. There are plenty of NTs who want friendship on a deeper level. The problem occurs when other people on the spectrum keep meeting NTs who are superficial, then conclude they are ALL like that.

Intimacy, for most people, often comes with time as you get to know them, too. My closest NT friends did not start as super close, but as we learned about each other, we now feel that we can fully rely on each other and talk about deeper thoughts and feelings.

Maybe you just need to meet more NTs that want the same things you do. They are harder to find...but they are out there. Trust me.


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03 Nov 2012, 10:05 pm

KevinLA wrote:
No. This is not one of those threads.

I watch all of the Real Housewives shows on Bravo. Mostly on how to make friends and get along with others. Although, half the time they are fighting. I learn from their mistakes.

Anyway, I was watching the RHW of Miami. One of the women is pretty popular. She has a lot of what people on this board would describe as friends. She goes to social events, other people call her, she calls them, they go out to dinner.

The last episode, she made the comment, "I don't have any friends." She was being sincere. I have heard this comment before from people who seeming have friends by the definition of people on this board.

I believe one thing that hurts our ability to make friends is our definition of a friend. NTs view a friend as someone on the surface to socialize with. We view a friend on a deeper level as someone we can rely on and talk about our feelings.

If we changed our definition of friends, we would make more friends.


Sure, I could say I have a few friends.. But then I would feel as if I'm lying as I haven't talked to these "friends" for literally years..



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04 Nov 2012, 2:12 pm

That lady you mentioned seemed to have a lot of "friends" when they are really acquaintances. To me a friend has to be someone you can talk to and go to and you end up going back to again and again. An acquaintance is someone whom you see in your daily life, can have a conversation with, make jokes with, etc. but you don't trust with personal details and may really not like being around them as much but never would admit it to anyone but yourself and your close friends.



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09 Nov 2012, 2:25 am

I do not have any friends and well I do not remember having any real friends, just acquaintances. A lonely, sad, socially isolated life of a typical person with issues in their life.



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09 Nov 2012, 10:23 pm

MrObvious wrote:
That lady you mentioned seemed to have a lot of "friends" when they are really acquaintances. To me a friend has to be someone you can talk to and go to and you end up going back to again and again. An acquaintance is someone whom you see in your daily life, can have a conversation with, make jokes with, etc. but you don't trust with personal details and may really not like being around them as much but never would admit it to anyone but yourself and your close friends.


I very much agree with this perspective. By this definition I consider myself to have several acquaintances and anywhere from 1-4 true friends.



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10 Nov 2012, 8:25 am

Having Aspergers makes it almost impossible for us to make and keep friends. Why is it so hard to make friends? How can we know if someone is interested in being a friend?