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08 Jul 2012, 11:53 am

I can't prove it but I think creationism is much weaker on the internet than it was 15 years ago. A decade or more of being humiliated seems to have tempered the urge.



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08 Jul 2012, 12:07 pm

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Joker has been banned from WP because of his persistent trolling and disruptive behaviour.


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08 Jul 2012, 12:08 pm

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I can't prove it but I think creationism is much weaker on the internet than it was 15 years ago. A decade or more of being humiliated seems to have tempered the urge.


Well, the best they can do now these days is troll threads critical of their beliefs in the hope they will get locked so the discussion cannot even take place, so you may be right


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08 Jul 2012, 2:06 pm

Its pretty hard to find creatonists offline now.

I was discussing the whole thing with a extremely active theist(an archeologist doing his thesis on how some things represented on the bible were also described by some other cultures that were what we would describe as pagan now) and when I asked him about the possible conflict between his faith and his work his only reply was that he put his faith aside when it came to work and the part of the bible that describes how the universe started is just a tale to him.



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08 Jul 2012, 2:16 pm

They are still there according to polls. And they still regularly try to attack science education standards in various red states. But I think they are less likely to expose their views when outnumbered, as they often are on the internet.



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08 Jul 2012, 2:58 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Joker has been banned from WP because of his persistent trolling and disruptive behaviour.


He'll be back, don't you worry :P


I actually liked the guy. :(

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08 Jul 2012, 4:09 pm

spongy wrote:
Its pretty hard to find creatonists offline now.

I was discussing the whole thing with a extremely active theist(an archeologist doing his thesis on how some things represented on the bible were also described by some other cultures that were what we would describe as pagan now) and when I asked him about the possible conflict between his faith and his work his only reply was that he put his faith aside when it came to work and the part of the bible that describes how the universe started is just a tale to him.


It seems like believers in theistic evolution probably outnumber the creationists. But they are not driven the way creationists are to promote this. I wonder if your colleague will eventually abandon theism

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They are still there according to polls. And they still regularly try to attack science education standards in various red states. But I think they are less likely to expose their views when outnumbered, as they often are on the internet.


Scientific theories go through a rigorous process just to get into textbooks. Why Creationists think they are immune to this scrutiny is beyond me. Its like they want to play life with the Godmode cheat on. Literally

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Joker has been banned from WP because of his persistent trolling and disruptive behaviour.


He'll be back, don't you worry :P


I actually liked the guy. :(

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Well, he made his choices. I didn't expect him to get banned for what he did here but it was apparently the last warning in a long list of warnings


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08 Jul 2012, 5:54 pm

How about, "I assume you are unemployed, and therefore wrong"?

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09 Jul 2012, 3:25 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Joker has been banned from WP because of his persistent trolling and disruptive behaviour.


He'll be back, don't you worry :P


Is this a prophecy of the second coming of Joker? :lol:



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09 Jul 2012, 5:16 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
How about, "I assume you are unemployed, and therefore wrong"?

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... ensorship/


Oh lordy. "We can't vandalize Wikipedia with our religious beliefs, therefore censorship!! !"

They have Conservapedia to circle jerk around, I wonder how they would deal with edits to their material


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09 Jul 2012, 5:23 pm

Start over.



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09 Jul 2012, 5:28 pm

On the video...

Counter-argument 4 is actually a fallacy. Basically, it says "the human eye is less complex than that of the horned owl. therefore God can't have created either because humans are his children, and would not have favoured other species". This doesn't adress the issue of complexity itself.



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09 Jul 2012, 5:44 pm

enrico_dandolo wrote:
On the video...

Counter-argument 4 is actually a fallacy. Basically, it says "the human eye is less complex than that of the horned owl. therefore God can't have created either because humans are his children, and would not have favored other species". This doesn't dress the issue of complexity itself.


I would not say that is the center of that counter-argument. They do elaborate quite well on the different types of more primitive sensors that are analogues to the various stages in ocular evolution. That last part about the eyes of octopi and horned owls seem more to have been a jab at the Christian view of the inherent superiority of man to all animals as God's "chosen". Biologically this is obviously not true


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09 Jul 2012, 5:52 pm

Lord_Gareth wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Joker has been banned from WP because of his persistent trolling and disruptive behaviour.


THANK YOU.
+1

I've been seeing some more mod presence lately. It's good to know PPR is being cleaned up...



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09 Jul 2012, 6:19 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Joker has been banned from WP because of his persistent trolling and disruptive behaviour.


THANK YOU.
+1

I've been seeing some more mod presence lately. It's good to know PPR is being cleaned up...


I sometimes think this subforum could probably use its own dedicated moderator or some lesser, special rank created for the purpose


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