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15 Apr 2011, 7:51 am

I've been reading a few articles about aspies lately and all of them say this exact phrase. I don't know how other aspies feel about this but I think it's such an ignorant thing to say and it makes me afraid to tell people about myself because they will think I have a horrible syndrome and I'm suffering. I don't know where this originated from or why it became the standard thing to say about all aspies but I want it to be changed. Maybe there are other aspies who feel the same, is there anything we can do to change it? I mean it's almost like saying black people suffer from African Pigmentation Syndrome isn't it? I don't see much of a difference so a complaint should be acknowledged?



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15 Apr 2011, 8:05 am

Because Asperger's is a disease. It's a disease because it...affects your physical health...just like all other diseases.



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15 Apr 2011, 8:11 am

Is that a joke? I know it sounds like a disease "I have Asperger's Syndrome" sounds just like "I have AIDS" but I don't say that I say I'm an Aspergian or I'm an Aspie because I don't have a syndrome. My body is in good shape, I'm healthy. I guess you were joking.



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15 Apr 2011, 8:12 am

I've seen this phrase a few times too, and it certainly can't help people's perceptions of AS. I wouldn't personally say that I was suffering from it, I may say though that it has effected my life negatively in the past.


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15 Apr 2011, 8:13 am

I think it might be good to remove the word "from" and to just say "suffers Asperger's Syndrome". Doing that would remove thoughts of "victim" and imply strong character.


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15 Apr 2011, 8:17 am

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I've seen this phrase a few times too, and it certainly can't help people's perceptions of AS. I wouldn't personally say that I was suffering from it, I may say though that it has effected my life negatively in the past.


Exactly, I'm not going to say that I haven't suffered in the past and will again in the future because I'm an Aspie but at the same time I have succeeded because of it and avoided suffering that I would have endured as an NT so I shouldn't be defined as someone who suffers because of this, it's so small-minded. I'm offended I really want it to be changed it should be illegal to write this kind of thing. Where do we complain?



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15 Apr 2011, 8:18 am

leejosepho wrote:
I think it might be good to remove the word "from" and to just say "suffers Asperger's Syndrome". Doing that would remove thoughts of "victim" and imply strong character.


Well personally I don't agree that I have a syndrome or a disorder or a condition or that I suffer from my mind any more than an NT suffers from theirs though I may suffer in different ways at times.

I'm different and the society around me is not as accommodating to me as it is to an NT but why does that mean I have a plethora of derogatory terms to define me?



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15 Apr 2011, 8:22 am

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Exactly, I'm not going to say that I haven't suffered in the past and will again in the future because I'm an Aspie but at the same time I have succeeded because of it and avoided suffering that I would have endured as an NT so I shouldn't be defined as someone who suffers because of this, it's so small-minded. I'm offended I really want it to be changed it should be illegal to write this kind of thing. Where do we complain?


I think having it illegal for anyone to say it is going too far, but I think it should be discouraged, and to instead simply use "...who has Asperger's Syndrome" or "who is diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome".


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15 Apr 2011, 8:25 am

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I think having it illegal for anyone to say it is going too far, but I think it should be discouraged, and to instead simply use "...who has Asperger's Syndrome" or "who is diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome".


Well what I mean is that if a newspaper said a woman suffers from "Out of the Kitchen Syndrome" it would not be allowed and I put this in the same category.



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15 Apr 2011, 8:27 am

manlyadam wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
I think it might be good to remove the word "from" and to just say "suffers Asperger's Syndrome". Doing that would remove thoughts of "victim" and imply strong character.


Well personally I don't agree that I have a syndrome or a disorder or a condition or that I suffer from my mind any more than an NT suffers from theirs though I may suffer in different ways at times.

Try removing the word "from" and see whether all of that sounds differently to you ...

I have a syndrome or a disorder or a condition or whatever that I suffer just as surely as an NT suffers his or her own neurology.


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15 Apr 2011, 8:27 am

I suffer because of my ASD. I may be really smart and employed and high functioning an all that, but I have been utterly stymied and externalizing my true internal states in a fashion that give me any sense of contentment. Why do you think the suicide rate among aspies is higher that average?

I LOVE my hyper focus when I can find that zone. It is like a drug. But I visit that place so rarely because I am tossed about in a sea of social information that makes me want to bang my head against the wall. Literally. Fortunately I've learned enough self control to not due such self injurious things. But it is a sliver away.

Yeah. I suffer from Asperger's.


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15 Apr 2011, 8:30 am

wavefreak58 wrote:
Yeah. I suffer from Asperger's.

... yet you nevertheless still suffer it, and that is to your credit!


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15 Apr 2011, 8:32 am

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Yeah. I suffer from Asperger's.


I do too but "Suffers from Asperger's Syndrome" doesn't define me though I'm sure it would be one of the first things someone would write about me. If you focus on the negatives you could say anyone suffers from a syndrome, like "suffering from retarded growth syndrome" for shorter people or "suffering from moon head syndrome" for bald people. Do you really think people would put up with this though? I don't see why aspies do. I'm not ill and I don't want derogatory terms and the word suffering thrown at me.



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15 Apr 2011, 8:36 am

I dislike "suffers from" language for any disability because it's assigning an emotional burden to any disabled person that is quite possibly not present. While I do consider AS to be a disability and a disorder and whatever other language implies it causes difficulties, and I am honestly confused when people say they do not consider it in the category of things that cause impairment.

So I do not want to be described as "suffers from Asperger's Syndrome" or "suffers from autism" or "suffers from ADHD," but I think it's perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that both of these things cause some serious challenges. I mean, what wavefreak58 said is pretty relevant, and I can relate despite my own lack of long-term employment.



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15 Apr 2011, 8:37 am

Sorry if I come on strong but I'm upset that every article I've read says this I think it's damaging and prejudiced. I mean even if there was an article about the happiest person in the world and they happened to be an Aspie I bet it would still say "Suffers from Asperger's Syndrome"



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