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15 Jun 2011, 3:17 pm

Hi all, we live in Australia so things may be a little different here.

I took my son to his job net work agency yesterday. He wont go unless I go with him, because he doesn't know or trust this worker, he wont talk to her or barely look at her, he gets confused by what others say and his short term auditory memory is bad. Any way we are also in the process of applying for some sort of disability support payment for him. This woman who is supposed to know something about his disabilities (this is a disability employment service), she asked my son if he has any friends. C (my son) shook his head, she looks at me, I say he interacts with his little brother only. She then goes on to say most people make friends when their at work (my son has had the same very part time job for nearly 6 years) She asks him if he socializes with the people from his work. He says NO! The she goes on to say, "well you need to go out and socialize!". Then she sits there smiling like she has just solved all his problems.

I'm flabbergasted. I turn to her and ask "Umm do you even know what Aspergers is?".
She looks embarrassed and says "hmm yeah".

If she understood why would she say something so stupid?


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15 Jun 2011, 3:31 pm

WHAT!? She obviously DOESN'T know anything about Aspergers!


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15 Jun 2011, 3:51 pm

And it's a disability service. What a joke.



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15 Jun 2011, 3:54 pm

face palm!

Really. I actually did a face palm.


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15 Jun 2011, 4:25 pm

Theoretical Facepalm.

Because i didnt actually put my palm to my face, i only pictured myself doing it.



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15 Jun 2011, 4:30 pm

The small rational part of her NT brain can calmly acknowledge his autism, but the larger social part of her brain cant handle being ignored and/or a target of an obvious expression of distrust toward her............. from an underling......

.......which disturbed her enough to make an ass of herself



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15 Jun 2011, 5:10 pm

That like throwing someone out of a wheelchair and telling them their solution is to walk!! !

ignorance and aroragance are a really bad mix that seems to plauge disability services is the US too.


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15 Jun 2011, 5:16 pm

aurea wrote:
Hi all, we live in Australia so things may be a little different here.

I took my son to his job net work agency yesterday. He wont go unless I go with him, because he doesn't know or trust this worker, he wont talk to her or barely look at her, he gets confused by what others say and his short term auditory memory is bad. Any way we are also in the process of applying for some sort of disability support payment for him. This woman who is supposed to know something about his disabilities (this is a disability employment service), she asked my son if he has any friends. C (my son) shook his head, she looks at me, I say he interacts with his little brother only. She then goes on to say most people make friends when their at work (my son has had the same very part time job for nearly 6 years) She asks him if he socializes with the people from his work. He says NO! The she goes on to say, "well you need to go out and socialize!". Then she sits there smiling like she has just solved all his problems.

I'm flabbergasted. I turn to her and ask "Umm do you even know what Aspergers is?".
She looks embarrassed and says "hmm yeah".

If she understood why would she say something so stupid?


8O :roll: 8O I think this "social worker" has NO clue what's she's talking about. If she doesn't know after 6 years, then there's nothing you or your son can do to educate her. Is there anyway to request someone else to work with your son?


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15 Jun 2011, 5:42 pm

aurea wrote:
Hi all, we live in Australia so things may be a little different here.

I took my son to his job net work agency yesterday. He wont go unless I go with him, because he doesn't know or trust this worker, he wont talk to her or barely look at her, he gets confused by what others say and his short term auditory memory is bad. Any way we are also in the process of applying for some sort of disability support payment for him. This woman who is supposed to know something about his disabilities (this is a disability employment service), she asked my son if he has any friends. C (my son) shook his head, she looks at me, I say he interacts with his little brother only. She then goes on to say most people make friends when their at work (my son has had the same very part time job for nearly 6 years) She asks him if he socializes with the people from his work. He says NO! The she goes on to say, "well you need to go out and socialize!". Then she sits there smiling like she has just solved all his problems.

I'm flabbergasted. I turn to her and ask "Umm do you even know what Aspergers is?".
She looks embarrassed and says "hmm yeah".

If she understood why would she say something so stupid?

It's possible that she's of the viewpoint that Aspergers is just extreem shyness or it could be that she's an idiot. I would have asked her to explain what she thought Aspergers was and when she got it wrong to say "Hmmmm.... no, that's not what it is. It's a neurological disorder that means a person has trouble reading body language and tone of voice among other things."


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16 Jun 2011, 2:39 am

aurea wrote:
Hi all, we live in Australia so things may be a little different here.

I took my son to his job net work agency yesterday. He wont go unless I go with him, because he doesn't know or trust this worker, he wont talk to her or barely look at her, he gets confused by what others say and his short term auditory memory is bad. Any way we are also in the process of applying for some sort of disability support payment for him. This woman who is supposed to know something about his disabilities (this is a disability employment service), she asked my son if he has any friends. C (my son) shook his head, she looks at me, I say he interacts with his little brother only. She then goes on to say most people make friends when their at work (my son has had the same very part time job for nearly 6 years) She asks him if he socializes with the people from his work. He says NO! The she goes on to say, "well you need to go out and socialize!". Then she sits there smiling like she has just solved all his problems.

I'm flabbergasted. I turn to her and ask "Umm do you even know what Aspergers is?".
She looks embarrassed and says "hmm yeah".

If she understood why would she say something so stupid?


I've actually had a similar experiences with disability services, which is why I do not enjoy visiting with them. It's like talking to a brick wall sometimes. 'You have to be more social' is great advice for someone like me. :roll: It has gotten a little better though. The counselor I'm working with adopted a autistic kid, and at least educated herself about the disorder.



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16 Jun 2011, 2:41 am

aurea wrote:
Hi all, we live in Australia so things may be a little different here.

I took my son to his job net work agency yesterday. He wont go unless I go with him, because he doesn't know or trust this worker, he wont talk to her or barely look at her, he gets confused by what others say and his short term auditory memory is bad. Any way we are also in the process of applying for some sort of disability support payment for him. This woman who is supposed to know something about his disabilities (this is a disability employment service), she asked my son if he has any friends. C (my son) shook his head, she looks at me, I say he interacts with his little brother only. She then goes on to say most people make friends when their at work (my son has had the same very part time job for nearly 6 years) She asks him if he socializes with the people from his work. He says NO! The she goes on to say, "well you need to go out and socialize!". Then she sits there smiling like she has just solved all his problems.

I'm flabbergasted. I turn to her and ask "Umm do you even know what Aspergers is?".
She looks embarrassed and says "hmm yeah".

If she understood why would she say something so stupid?


I'm guessing if you mentioned your son had autism she would have known.



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16 Jun 2011, 5:34 am

In my former disability job agency they do not call your disability by its name. I found this very disconcerting because I didn't think they took my symptoms into account. And when we had our group days people would all be chatty and I'd be sitting there nervously and eventually I just ignored people and started to get really frustrated with that type of group meet up.

So, yeah it might be the case that they are not looking as your sons disability as Asperger's but as a 'barrier'. Seriously, they wouldn't even call it a disability. The world is just so damn PC these days.

Anyway, the fact remains people with autism will not have their issues addressed unless with an expert in that field, and those people are bloody expensive.

You should say something to that job worker like 'my son finds it difficult to make friends.' Or leave that place.


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16 Jun 2011, 11:47 am

Surfman wrote:
The small rational part of her NT brain can calmly acknowledge his autism, but the larger social part of her brain cant handle being ignored and/or a target of an obvious expression of distrust toward her............. from an underling......

.......which disturbed her enough to make an ass of herself


True. A lot of NTs just think it's so easy to Just Socialise. But Just Socialising isn't always that simple - especially for those that struggle. It'd be like telling a person with one leg to walk, and thinking that walking might make them grow another leg or something. It doesn't work like that.

Stupid NTs. And then NTs have got the cheek to say that Aspies don't understand other people's needs. It REALLY annoys me when people say that Aspies are selfish and ignorant against NTs, as though NTs are the perfect ones who never go wrong.


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16 Jun 2011, 12:09 pm

Telling an Aspie to 'just socialize' is like telling a blind person to "just cross the street when the light is green"
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16 Jun 2011, 12:14 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
Telling an Aspie to 'just socialize' is like telling a blind person to "just cross the street when the light is green"
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Perfect analogy! Well put!


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16 Jun 2011, 2:12 pm

Or telling someone with an eating disorder to just eat if they want to. Like it's that simple.