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Say that there were two candidates running, Bill Clinton and a hypothetical candidate with the following platform, a candidate whom we'll call Jerry. Which one would you vote for? Note that this in no way reflects my true political aspirations.


Jerry's platform:

(1) I demand the unification of all Americans in a Greater America on the basis of the right of self-determination of peoples.

(2) I demand the equality of rights for the American people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of the United Nations and Geneva Convention.

(3) I demand land and territory for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.

(4) Only a member of America can be a citizen. A member of America can only be one who is of American blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no foreigner can be a member of America.

(5) Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in America only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.

(6) The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Nation, the states or counties, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of chatacter or abilities.

(7) I demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the Nation, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Nation.

(8) Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that ann non-Americans, who have immigrated to America since the 11 September 2001, be forced immiedately to leave the Nation.

(9) All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.

(10) The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benfit of all. Consequently I demand:

(11) Abolition of unearned (work and labor) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

(12) In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we deamnd the total confiscation of all war profits.

(13) I demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

(14) I demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

(15) I demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

(16) I demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the Nation, states or counties.

(17) I demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

(18) I demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurpers, terrorists and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.

(19) I demand substitution of an American common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world order.

(20) The state is to be responsible for a fundemantal reconstruction of our whole national educational program, to enable every capable and industrious American to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the Nation must be striven for by the school as early as the beginning of understanding. I demand the education at the expense of the Nation of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

(21) The state is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

(22) I demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.

(23) I demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of an American press, I demand, that a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the American language be members of the Natio: b. Non-American newspapers be required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the American language: c. Non-Americans are forbidden by law any financial interest in American publications, or any influence on them, and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Nation of the non-American concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. I demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.

(24) I demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or opposte the moral senses of the American peoples. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the foreign-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: common utility precedes individual utility.

(25) For the execution of all of this I demand the formation of a strong central power in the Nation. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Nation and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Nation within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.

- Ray M -

Very good, you've read Mein Kampf and learned Gottfried Feder's 25 points.

Come on! Not this early on. You're not supposed to give away all the secrets. Now, we'll never be able to distinguish who are and aren't the nazis on here!

- Ray M -

Bill Clinton. Jerry's platform.... is rather far out, and is dangerous. I think I get what the whole experiment is though.

There are at least two major problems. almost all of Jerry's platform is contrary to the Constitution and the Amendment process is rather cumbersome, additionally, Bill Clionton is also Constitionally prohibited from seeking a 3rd term in office...damn that pesky Constitution...

so then only native americans can be citizens

If you just look then you will see that Jerry's platform is insane.


Neither of those are problems given the fact that this is hypothetical. Clinton isn't a nutjob though, so I would vote for Clinton.

Even in the when dealin in the hypotheticica, the constitution must apply if we are discussin a us politiclat platforn, otherwise, it leaves hypothetical and becomes mere fantesy...or in this case insanity.

This is a false dichotomy if I've ever seen one. No such candidate could ever get nominated by a major party.

Litigious, Aeturnus

This is an illustration of my theory that aspies posting demonstrate their autism - they like are kids playing along side each other, not with each other.

I don't think anyone read Litigious' post. Delete it now and continue the experiment.

Meh! that's easy, just look in a mirror!

Well, some moderator must come to our help then.

It's primarily a test of the minds of the general population. The idea is to embark on a journey to see just how many people would support such a political platform. Educated people may see that it has something to do with the constitution; that is, educated people whom have knowledge in say civics or something.

The idea for this arouse out of a concept that some die-hard conservatives tend to claim that any typical liberal will vote in Hitler for office if he ran as a democrat. So, I decided to see if that were really true. I've thought about it once as an experiment for a college course, but never did it. I did not do it primarily because I didn't like the thought of talking to strangers on the street and going into details about college criteria and project work.

I do know a few people, however, that actually voted for Jerry when I gave it to him. In fact, I know of four people. Only one called himself a democrat. One of them was my father, whom is openly conservative and a first-rate bigot. He told me something like: "Well, I don't agree with some of the stuff on that, but I will say that over Clinton, Yeah, I'd vote this guy in. I think it does have some good ideas on handling people who don't speak English."

- Ray M -