The inscrutable Christian marriage dynamic
Get with the times and ditch that sexist, backward dynamic!
Get with the times and stop judging.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Get with the times and ditch that sexist, backward dynamic!
Hey he is just going by the bible, which says women are weaker, which is generally true. I can lift more than most girls my age.
Society should be stratified according to bench press capability
You're right, it's a choice, not nature, for women to be as strong as men. (Oh wait, steroids are illegal.)
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Get with the times and ditch that sexist, backward dynamic!
Hey he is just going by the bible, which says women are weaker, which is generally true. I can lift more than most girls my age.
Society should be stratified according to bench press capability
You're right, it's a choice, not nature, for women to be as strong as men. (Oh wait, steroids are illegal.)
Men are not born rippling with muscles any more than women are
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Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
Get with the times and ditch that sexist, backward dynamic!
Hey he is just going by the bible, which says women are weaker, which is generally true. I can lift more than most girls my age.
Society should be stratified according to bench press capability
You're right, it's a choice, not nature, for women to be as strong as men. (Oh wait, steroids are illegal.)
I know! I don't want to look like a buffed man! I've seen those women! They look so ugly!
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I'm Ragtime's wife! :V
Get with the times and ditch that sexist, backward dynamic!
Hey he is just going by the bible, which says women are weaker, which is generally true. I can lift more than most girls my age.
Society should be stratified according to bench press capability
You're right, it's a choice, not nature, for women to be as strong as men. (Oh wait, steroids are illegal.)
Men are not born rippling with muscles any more than women are
No, just denser and less-fatty muscle tissue, as well as a more robust skeletal structure clearly designed for heavy work.
In constrast, women are usually born with child-bearing hips and a smaller upper body. Oh wait, I forgot, all that natural stuff is a mistake by nature that feminism will cure!
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Get with the times and ditch that sexist, backward dynamic!
Hey he is just going by the bible, which says women are weaker, which is generally true. I can lift more than most girls my age.
i can do more pushups (men style ones) than many men. i build muscle like a pit bull.
but i don't get your point. do you think that if an average man is stronger than an average woman, then men should make all the household decisions?
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ValentineWiggin
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Why are people so caught up with hurling themselves toward opposite ends of a dichotomy?
Men having MORE muscle = men are supposed to be strong and are more "desiged" (lulz) for work?
Both sexes have muscle.
Women having LESS body hair = women are supposed to remove theirs, and men are ridiculed for doing the same?
Both sexes have body hair.
And so on and so forth.
If we're going to talk nature, let's examine teh factz:
something naturally different between men and women by definition pre-exists any obsession with emphasizing it...aka gender roles.
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"Such is the Frailty
of the human Heart, that very few Men, who have no Property, have any Judgment of their own.
They talk and vote as they are directed by Some Man of Property, who has attached their Minds
to his Interest."
Get with the times and ditch that sexist, backward dynamic!
Hey he is just going by the bible, which says women are weaker, which is generally true. I can lift more than most girls my age.
i can do more pushups (men style ones) than many men. i build muscle like a pit bull.
but i don't get your point. do you think that if an average man is stronger than an average woman, then men should make all the household decisions?
I am confused by what you mean. If you are saying that you think I meant that men should make the household decisions because they are physically stronger, no. I was just explaining how I took what the bible said about women being weaker (in general). And how ragtime was interpreting this verse differently
Ragtime took that verse to mean that men should lead the relationship, I took it to mean that men are physically stronger.
Nothing about humans was "designed". There is barely any sexual dimorphism in homo sapiens, if you want to see a species with really noteworthy differences between genders look at arachnids
I see you still haven't figured out what Feminism is. I'll leave you to that
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Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
ValentineWiggin
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Nothing about humans was "designed". There is barely any sexual dimorphism in homo sapiens, if you want to see a species with really noteworthy differences between genders look at arachnids
I see you still haven't figured out what Feminism is. I'll leave you to that
Defining for individuals, on the basis of physical difference, a "natural role" and making it all but impossible for them to opt out of them without serious consequence hasn't worked out too well, historically.
See: slavery, and the bullsh!ttery of "separate but equal"
Q: If all human beings "naturally" have certain characteristics on the basis of sex,
why do anti-feminists kick and scream so much when people deviate from them in any way?
You'd think "natural" predispositions wouldn't have to constantly be enforced.
The fact that we're even talking about men's and women's (as mentioned, slight) physiological differences,
as if that's remotely-relevant to why, exactly, people should be indoctrinated into gender roles and made to suffer for non-conformity,
shows that certain people STILL DON'T GET IT.
It ain't about whether men and women are different.
It's about why, exactly, they're FORCED to act so differently, and SUPPRESS their natural inclinations to do so.
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"Such is the Frailty
of the human Heart, that very few Men, who have no Property, have any Judgment of their own.
They talk and vote as they are directed by Some Man of Property, who has attached their Minds
to his Interest."
Get with the times and ditch that sexist, backward dynamic!
Hey he is just going by the bible, which says women are weaker, which is generally true. I can lift more than most girls my age.
i can do more pushups (men style ones) than many men. i build muscle like a pit bull.
but i don't get your point. do you think that if an average man is stronger than an average woman, then men should make all the household decisions?
I am confused by what you mean. If you are saying that you think I meant that men should make the household decisions because they are physically stronger, no. I was just explaining how I took what the bible said about women being weaker (in general). And how ragtime was interpreting this verse differently
Ragtime took that verse to mean that men should lead the relationship, I took it to mean that men are physically stronger.
oh, i couldn't tell what you were saying. now i get it.
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It isn't confusing. I understand D/s relationships and I'm very tolerant of all kinks and lifestyles that don't violate the SSC (safe, sane and consensual) principle.
What understandably bothers people though is that you advertise this kind of relationship as the normal, natural relationship model, and that you use your religion to do so. If this Christian D/s thing works out for you and your wife, more power to the two of you. But you have to understand that this is a minority kink that doesn't appeal to most other people and should not be forced on anybody. Especially not using religious dogma, which is a problem in itself.
It isn't confusing. I understand D/s relationships and I'm very tolerant of all kinks and lifestyles that don't violate the SSC (safe, sane and consensual) principle.
What understandably bothers people though is that you advertise this kind of relationship as the normal, natural relationship model, and that you use your religion to do so. If this Christian D/s thing works out for you and your wife, more power to the two of you. But you have to understand that this is a minority kink that doesn't appeal to most other people and should not be forced on anybody. Especially not using religious dogma, which is a problem in itself.
This post is very similar to what I have been trying to figure out how to say.
D/S relationships absolutely work if they're what both people want. D/S relationships can even work with one or both members being very strongly feminist.
That does not mean that your relationship is "the Christian marriage dynamic", suggesting that other relationships can't be Christian, or that your relationship style should be used by others unless they choose the same thing.
This is your relationship. People should be respectful of your relationship choices. However there are plenty of Christian relationships that make different decisions on how their relationships work.
Nothing about humans was "designed". There is barely any sexual dimorphism in homo sapiens, if you want to see a species with really noteworthy differences between genders look at arachnids
Men and women are quite different, regardless of how you compare their differences to the sex difference of other species. After all, most men and women can conceive children together, while no man can impregnate a man nor can a woman impregnate a woman. Their are species who automatically change genders with the full reproductive abilities of the new gender. Humans are much more sexually differentiate compared to them, so if you want to draw comparisons and thereby conclusions, then both the your point and its opposite can be made.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
It isn't confusing. I understand D/s relationships and I'm very tolerant of all kinks and lifestyles that don't violate the SSC (safe, sane and consensual) principle.
What understandably bothers people though is that you advertise this kind of relationship as the normal, natural relationship model, and that you use your religion to do so. If this Christian D/s thing works out for you and your wife, more power to the two of you. But you have to understand that this is a minority kink that doesn't appeal to most other people and should not be forced on anybody. Especially not using religious dogma, which is a problem in itself.
It's not a kink. The man being the leader in the home is the Christian norm, for those Christians who read the Bible. (Christians who don't read the Bible tend to drift from the Christian lifestyle and attitude, and so become less Christian over time. I don't believe in salvation loss, so by "less Christian" I'm speaking in all ways besides eternal security.)
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Nobody caes about your 'Christian norm'.
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