Does your family say things like this?

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15 May 2012, 9:52 pm

"You need to realize, your not liking social situations is just because of the aspergers. You should try to overcome it."

ARRRRGGH!

That's like me saying; "You should realize, your dislike of living alone indefinitely is because of millions of years of social emotions drummed into you by evolution. You should try to overcome it."

A large percentage of my personality is defined by aspergers, and I like it, probably because I'm only mildly affected, but regardless...I wouldn't ever trade aspergers for the ability to function in social situations, as that comes with a far greater deficit, the derangement of being normal...



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15 May 2012, 10:08 pm

You need to learn how to accommodate stupidity.
It's everywhere, even in really good & worthwhile people.

But it does take alot of patience.


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16 May 2012, 12:00 am

That's rather ignorant of them. You should tell them. [quote]That's like me saying; "You should realize, your dislike of living alone indefinitely is because of millions of years of social emotions drummed into you by evolution. You should try to overcome it."



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16 May 2012, 3:10 am

ThinkTrees wrote:
You need to learn how to accommodate stupidity.
It's everywhere, even in really good & worthwhile people.


+1,000,000.
It's even in therapists.


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16 May 2012, 3:38 am

My father used to tell me that I should get out and socialise more. That was before any of us knew about my AS, and before he accepted that I have my own social temperament which is not his to dictate.


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16 May 2012, 5:16 am

I think there is something to be said for trying to improve specific social problems (assuming you want to) - but to "overcome aspergers" just doesnt fit with me, you can overcome specific problems, but not part of your personality :?


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16 May 2012, 5:24 am

People don't say that, but when I say, ''I wish I could attend a social situation without feeling shy'', people usually go, ''well it's only upto you to change yourself.''

AAAAGGGHHHHHH!! !! !! !! Why do people think I choose to be shy?! !! I hate being shy. I wish I had better social skills, but I can't magic a social brain. If I do try to be confident, other people can sense it's false anyway, and I'll still be as rejected as I am being shy.


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16 May 2012, 6:31 am

You may not be able to overcome it, but with work you can certainly improve! Even if you have no desire to socialize whatsoever, just trying to learn how can make your life much easier and more fulfilling in most aspects.



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16 May 2012, 6:58 am

I remember my mom telling me many times, "You should makes more friends"..." you have to show yourself friendly to make friends"..."derpette wants to be friends with you but you are making it impossible" (the girl had actually approached my mother asking what was wrong with me).

Sigh...I would either come up with some wild fact to tell her about why I didn't/wouldn't or simply wouldn't respond to her at all.


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17 May 2012, 1:19 am

Joe90 wrote:
People don't say that, but when I say, ''I wish I could attend a social situation without feeling shy'', people usually go, ''well it's only upto you to change yourself.''

AAAAGGGHHHHHH!! !! !! !! Why do people think I choose to be shy?! !! I hate being shy. I wish I had better social skills, but I can't magic a social brain. If I do try to be confident, other people can sense it's false anyway, and I'll still be as rejected as I am being shy.


I'm not sure if shy is the right word. I'm never shy, I simply never know what to say, therefore I never say anything lol. Perhaps this is what you meant? Or maybe both lol.

I speculated a while ago that; If a person can justify an action with a belief, they can then interpret that action in any light they want according to what the belief is.

Eg. "The Jews aren't people, they don't have personalities, they are abominations." Therefore it is morally correct to gas the Jews (In that persons mind).

Eg. "God wants me to blow myself up and kill those around me. God has promised me 72 virgins for doing so. The people I kill are abominations in the eyes of God." Therefore, it is then morally correct to blow yourself up and kill those around you (in that persons mind).

So, theoretically, if you can indicate the belief that is making you feel that particular way, all you have to do is make yourself believe otherwise. Thus, you change the emotion associated with the belief.

Eg. Nobody is afraid of heights, they are afraid of falling and dying. Therefore, the reason they are afraid is because of the belief that they are going to die if they fall. So, if a person can change that belief; make themselves temporarily believe that they won't die if they fall, or perhaps; that it is impossible for them to fall, then their fear may very well dissipate or disappear.

So, in order for you to overcome your shyness, you simply have to indicate the belief involved and change it accordingly.

I hope I'm making sense, lol. But of course, even with the shyness gone, you still probably won't be able to figure out what to say in a social situation, like me lol.



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17 May 2012, 3:38 am

Live on a hippie commune. Nocturnal, isolated mostly. Once in a while I put my periscope up. Speak my mind, pretty soon they want me to get that periscope back down. No problem.


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17 May 2012, 4:50 am

I remember when I was in 5th and 6th grade, mom used to tell me to play with kids my own age. But they didn't want me around and they were boring and we didn't have things in common anymore. Plus I could not relate to them. They grew out of me while I stayed behind in social skills. So I went for the younger kids since I could relate to them. But I did want friends my own age but it was not possible anymore.



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17 May 2012, 7:31 pm

zombiegirl2010 wrote:
I remember my mom telling me many times, "You should makes more friends"...


Yeah, I got that, too and was always angered by the sheer stupidity of how unhelpful that is. It was as if "make friends" was a simple action like "make toast". Whenever I asked "OK, how do I make more friends" nobody could tell me anything specific.



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17 May 2012, 9:27 pm

FMX wrote:
It was as if "make friends" was a simple action like "make toast".


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avU5onrWfYo[/youtube]

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18 May 2012, 9:27 am

FMX wrote:
zombiegirl2010 wrote:
I remember my mom telling me many times, "You should makes more friends"...


Yeah, I got that, too and was always angered by the sheer stupidity of how unhelpful that is. It was as if "make friends" was a simple action like "make toast". Whenever I asked "OK, how do I make more friends" nobody could tell me anything specific.


The ironic thing is that she has some Aspie traits, and has never had many friends. She simply could not keep them. For as long as I can remember she has only been able to keep one friend at a time.


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18 May 2012, 1:31 pm

My older sister found AS and thought I had it and yet STILL she thinks I should get out there and make friends. My parents were of the idea socializing in college I'd meet friends. 2 semesters on campus and I liked and understood the professors more than the students. I LOVED chatting with my Sociology professor! The students seemed stupid! One was like OMG! Spanish sucks! I'm never using this! UH! He's wanting to go into border patrol!! !! ! UH! How the HELL is he NOT going to have to know Spanish! LOL! Idiot! Also some of these students I knew from Spanish 1 took Spanish 2 and I STILL couldn't remember there names! I guess I never related to any of them. I'm glad I can do online TOTALLY now for my Bachelor in Criminal Justice! PHEW! I do wish making friends was easier though.