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25 Mar 2013, 6:10 pm

tested zyprexia it cured my eating disorder but nothing anything else. i tsted abilify so much side effects . i tested seroquell so much side effects. atarax not a big diffrence. mitrazapine no diffrence.

can you recommend anything good? How do you explain depression and asperger? arent these 2 the same?'


what medicine is a mircale medicine for asperger? what do you recommend? that works i feel outside in some other world.is this depression? maybe its just my brain. Somebody had depression? how does it feel like? did u cure it? i think slow. i feel outside i feel like some vegetable. i feel just shouldent there be anything.

what does this sound like? Is there anything that makes you like normal



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25 Mar 2013, 6:12 pm

I'm on Efexor and it works for me

I'm only on a low dose but I definitely need it as if I try coming off it I quickly start to feel a sense of not being in control as much, nervous tension and I start getting a lot more negative thoughts



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25 Mar 2013, 6:38 pm

The piracetam family has showed promising results in some studies. Can't tell you based on personal experience. I've only recently started trying several of them myself, and it's too soon to say totally how it is.

It's much better for this if you are European.

EDIT: You are from the UK, so that's just perfect.

But there's nothing that's unqualifiedly supported by strong peer-reviewed research aside from early behavioral intervention. Anything you do to try to mitigate your autism is kind of an experiment.



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25 Mar 2013, 6:41 pm

nessa238 wrote:
I'm on Efexor and it works for me

I'm only on a low dose but I definitely need it as if I try coming off it I quickly start to feel a sense of not being in control as much, nervous tension and I start getting a lot more negative thoughts


can you elaborate?



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25 Mar 2013, 6:55 pm

bl44d3lf wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
I'm on Efexor and it works for me

I'm only on a low dose but I definitely need it as if I try coming off it I quickly start to feel a sense of not being in control as much, nervous tension and I start getting a lot more negative thoughts


can you elaborate?


What do you want to know?

I was taking 37.5mg in the morning and 37.5mg int he evening but lately I've dropped to just the one 37.5mg tablet in the morning

I took no tablets at all yesterday but started to feel down and by this mornign I felt sick - which is a withdrawal sympton when you come off the tablets

so I took a tablet, then felt sick as this happens when you start on them but also better

like the effort of having to raise my mood is taken off me and done by the tablet

I don't have the capacity to raise my mood manually hence the tablet is having to do it artificially for me

Every so often I will get fed up of taking the tablets as I will feel they create a barrier to natural communication as I feel they can make me too confident or assertive in some situations but if I try and come off them my mood goes downhill

It's a heavy duty anti-depressant with bad side effects if you come off it but it's lifted me out of suicidal depressions each time I've gone back on it so I feel it's effective for me

People either love it or hate it really

I don't think I'd be here without it though!

it gives you a sort of internal emotional shield so that things don't get to you as much as they would off the tablets

off the tablets I'm far too sensitive and seem to replay negative things a lot in my head

on them I do this far less and can dismiss things more easily

they don't make life easy, just bearable



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25 Mar 2013, 6:59 pm

nessa238 wrote:
bl44d3lf wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
I'm on Efexor and it works for me

I'm only on a low dose but I definitely need it as if I try coming off it I quickly start to feel a sense of not being in control as much, nervous tension and I start getting a lot more negative thoughts


can you elaborate?


What do you want to know?

I was taking 37.5mg in the morning and 37.5mg int he evening but lately I've dropped to just the one 37.5mg tablet in the morning

I took no tablets at all yesterday but started to feel down and by this mornign I felt sick - which is a withdrawal sympton when you come off the tablets

so I took a tablet, then felt sick as this happens when you start on them but also better

like the effort of having to raise my mood is taken off me and done by the tablet

I don't have the capacity to raise my mood manually hence the tablet is having to do it artificially for me

Every so often I will get fed up of taking the tablets as I will feel they create a barrier to natural communication as I feel they can make me too confident or assertive in some situations but if I try and come off them my mood goes downhill

It's a heavy duty anti-depressant with bad side effects if you come off it but it's lifted me out of suicidal depressions each time I've gone back on it so I feel it's effective for me

People either love it or hate it really

I don't think I'd be here without it though!


Does it damage your ability to engage in reciprocal communication? Both Zoloft and Lexapro made me less responsive to my environment and somehow caused people to think I am creepy. This was never a problem before or after I got off them.



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25 Mar 2013, 7:05 pm

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What medication do you recommend?

Only those prescribed by your physician.



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25 Mar 2013, 7:09 pm

I don't think it's reasonable for anyone to recommend particular medications to you without even knowing exactly what symptoms you're addressing, or what your issues with your previous meds were... and even then, shouldn't you be asking a psychiatrist instead? Considering the kinds of medications you listed, I think a professional who is familiar with your situation should advise you if you're looking for alternatives.



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25 Mar 2013, 7:17 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
bl44d3lf wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
I'm on Efexor and it works for me

I'm only on a low dose but I definitely need it as if I try coming off it I quickly start to feel a sense of not being in control as much, nervous tension and I start getting a lot more negative thoughts


can you elaborate?


What do you want to know?

I was taking 37.5mg in the morning and 37.5mg int he evening but lately I've dropped to just the one 37.5mg tablet in the morning

I took no tablets at all yesterday but started to feel down and by this mornign I felt sick - which is a withdrawal sympton when you come off the tablets

so I took a tablet, then felt sick as this happens when you start on them but also better

like the effort of having to raise my mood is taken off me and done by the tablet

I don't have the capacity to raise my mood manually hence the tablet is having to do it artificially for me

Every so often I will get fed up of taking the tablets as I will feel they create a barrier to natural communication as I feel they can make me too confident or assertive in some situations but if I try and come off them my mood goes downhill

It's a heavy duty anti-depressant with bad side effects if you come off it but it's lifted me out of suicidal depressions each time I've gone back on it so I feel it's effective for me

People either love it or hate it really

I don't think I'd be here without it though!


Does it damage your ability to engage in reciprocal communication? Both Zoloft and Lexapro made me less responsive to my environment and somehow caused people to think I am creepy. This was never a problem before or after I got off them.


I find it varies depending on the person

I'm sure it gives my eyes a harder more aggressive look and can make me more likely to forget to smile and look approachable sometimes but on the other hand it will enable me to stand up to people better as it's like having more of an emotional shield. I will feel more 'together' though and more able to maintain a stable mood. Off the tablets I'm a lot more emotional and can get a lot more angry and upset; I take things more personally as it's like I'm 1000 times more sensitive.

I can also see it in my face that I'm looking more spaced out generally if not on the tablets. I think my neurological state is reflected a lot in my face.

Since I also started taking progesterone in the form of the mini-pill I've felt calmer too.

People think I'm weird/creepy/unusual/you name it! whatever I do - I have lost all expectations of being seen as 'normal' by most people. The best I can hope for is to be able to put people in their place if they try and bully me for it.

Anti-psychotics gave me the worst reaction off other people as they really put me out of it! I also was so relaxed I laughed at some yobs on one occasion and they threw a lit firework at me as it pissed them off, so there is such a thing as being too relaxed for your own good!



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25 Mar 2013, 7:50 pm

Fnord wrote:
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What medication do you recommend?

Only those prescribed by your physician.


well that would be a option if mine dident suck. the first one is ret*d and the second is ret*d as well. they dont seem to be trust worthy at all.



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26 Mar 2013, 1:05 am

Personally, I've had nothing but bad luck with psychiatric medicines. I've been to the well 7 times (Prozac, Effexor, Amytriphaline, citalopram, buspirone, and, statins and Viibryd). If they work for you, fine. I have had disturbing side effects from all of them. I ended up on these poisons when I had a breakdown in my GP's office. At least she didn't prescribe these drugs, like previous GPs did. The only thing I wanted to do was talk to someone, since there was not much talking that went on in my family. I made the mistake of confusing a psychiatrist with a psychologist. Prozac turned me meaner than a cornered raccoon. The doctor cold-turkeyed me off of that and put me on Effexor. It nearly ruined my voice and I developed tinnitus. I was cold turkeyed off that and put on Amytriphaline. I would always wake up with a severe hangover. (I do not consume alcohol, as I have seen what it can do to people. Besides, beer, to me, smells like regurgitated bear urine.). Those first 3 poisons were prescribed by an MD, who thought he was God's greatest gift to earth, since he went to Temple University for his undergraduate degree, as well as Med School.

When I lost my job at the Pentagon, I had to switch doctors, to a clinic at an Osteopathic Hospital (who, at the time, did not believe in psychiatric medications, since Osteopathy is concerned with treating symptoms, as well as looking holistically at the individual to discover why they are Ill). I would not be alive today, from what my mother told me, if it weren't for an Osteopathic Doctor, who treated me for pneumonia at the age of 6 months. Since I'm diabetic, my body chemistry is already out of whack. After losing jobs at Apple Computer, I had to switch doctors again, this time to an MD clinic, since the Osteopathic Clinic would not take a community-based health palm, while I was working as a pizza delivery person, a job that can really screw with one's circadian cycle.

It was when I was sent to the new clinic's behavioral Health center, I was put on citalopram, as well as buspirone. I felt dead emotionally. I metabolism got screwed up even more, and my weight ballooned to nearly 400 lbs. I was taken off citalopram, due to FDA warnings regarding pulmonary issues, and put on Viibryd. I should have known better than to be a guinea pig with this drug, as I was a guinea pig with Actos and Avandia. Which caused me to gain even more weight and retain fluid. Viibryd put my flat on my back, as I had brain fog, dysphoria, athakisia, restless legs, insomnia and constant crying spells. It also didn't help that I lost my job delivering pizza, because I showed the ticket to my boss for going the wrong way down a one way street. The shop I was working for has a zero-tolerance policy on almost everything.

It also didn't help when my mother nearly bled out 2 months after I was fired, and died 3 months later. It also didn't help that one of my other brothers, who was the executor of her estate, let me, and the next to youngest brother to pay all the bills while the estate was still in probate. Since I was not working, and receiving welfare, my brother decided I was a lazy arsed bum, and threw me out when I purchased an iPod with the first distribution of the estate, even though I paid him 3700.00 dollars to cover my part of the living expenses, as well to stay in what is now his house. We had both taken the aspie quiz that was on wired.com. He considered the results to be bullsh*t, and threw me out. He was always for himself and no one else, when while he served in the Army Reserves and is a Desert Storm veteran.

I had even gotten more anxious while the estate was in probate. It also didn't help that this happened during the worst recession since the 1990's. I did finally get diagnosed this past September for bipolar disorder, anxiety disorder and Asperger's. just getting away from that toxic environment, has made me less anxious. I am trying to find work via Vocational Rehabilitation, but may not be successful, since Viibryd has damaged my brain so badly I may never be able to recover. I was at one time a fair to middling musician (as a clarinetist. I don't play that often due to carpal tunnel syndrome. I was much better in my younger days as a singer. My age has pretty much taken the luster off this lyric tenor), as well as a librarian and tech support geek of pretty good calibre. Now, I'm lucky I can still recognize my friends, as well as cook a simple meal and drive a car, let alone walk. The psychiatric drugs has pretty much killed what little creativity the Good Lord gave me, as well as made me even more clumsy than I was as a kid.)

The only reason I discovered I was on the spectrum was my youngest brother and his wife have a son and a daughter on the spectrum, as low functioning autists, and saw the signs. I also discovered recently my late father's youngest brother has a grandson on the spectrum.



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27 Mar 2013, 4:36 pm

I am doing a lifestyle change with supplements to augment treatment on the symptoms. The first thing you need to do is to change your diet. I myself am going with a Mediterranean bent with Asia wheat and gluten free since they cause inflammatory reactions that that seem to aggravate my condition as well as other problems I have. Then try herbal supplements for calming and focus. this should in theory take the edge off. When you get an attack here are homeopathic supplements that you can take under your tongue for fast relief. I have been doing this for a couple of days so I really can't gauge any serious effects except when my Lead man at work tried to push my buttons and instead of getting irritated and aggressive, I told him to talk to the department head when he tried to countermand an order I was given. I would have blown up normally so I guess this may be working.
this is what I am using:
St John's Wort 300 mg twice a day
True Focus twice a day
Newton Homeopathic Blues~Mood Support tabs for the occasional anxiety attack but I have not had one yet

I also limit myself to 3 cups of coffee a day so I do not aggravate fatigue.
Been only a couple of days but it I have been less obnoxious and starting to be able to listen better without interrupting people . And it still does not interfere with my ultrahigh function traits that are the plus to this condition. Also no nasty side effects either.



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29 Mar 2013, 9:03 am

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29 Mar 2013, 9:08 am

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29 Mar 2013, 9:20 am

abilify or risperidal.


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29 Mar 2013, 9:30 am

The palaeolithic diet and exercise. Also making sure to get enough sleep. Sleep deprivation is one of the biggest triggers for my depression as is socialising too frequently to the point where I do not get any time to pursue my passions (my interests). After all what is life without passion or when you cannot spend time with the things you are truly passionate about? One long boring depressing chore filled with endless reams of pointless social chit chat...it is not exactly fulfilling is it? Ergo hobby time is paramount!

I have found a combination of the above to be the best prescription ever!

Also quit trying to figure people out...they are just too strange. People complain about my living in my own world, but quite frankly I like it there, as overall it is far less depressing than the strange twilight zone dimension they seem to live in. I like tootling around in my own world and am happiest there.

None of the drs meds ever worked or even helped. They just made it worse. Nor did therapy...they just keep pushing me into the twilight zone outlined above and constantly trying to be 'normal' exhausts me and makes me ill after a while.

Now, if I can just figure out how to hold down a job around my wonky sleep schedule without having to venture into the strange dimension that is their world (and not my own) then all will be well and all that...

I am working on it...