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Eh, dunno. I mean, we're prepared to consider a Jewish man for Prime Minister, but I don't believe in Jews have made a serious bid for President lately. Even that Jewish man is forced to eat bacon sandwiches publicly to prove that he's normal.


I think you're rather mischaracterising what "white privilege" is there, but I take your point. Logically, I mean. I don't think it's particularly grounded in fact, particularly as, unlike Jewish people, white Christians haven't been the victims of continent-wide genocide in the past century.


The Israel lobby is not the same as the Jew lobby.

Except for the Armenians in 1915--even though they're technically in Asia.

That was quite a genocide.

You mean it's offensive to you. So what?



I doubt you really want to discuss examples. You probably just want someone to try providing some so you can impress everyone with your moral outrage.

Ethnic and racial conflict is as old as history itself, but people like you make out as if the Jews are the only people who have never been the aggressors, only ever the victims.

This thread is ugly. If there are many more like this, I'm out of here.

So, you're being offered the opportunity to show that you're not a racist and anti-Semite, but you're turning it down?

No. He's refusing to respond to yet another attempt to bait into an argument that doesn't rely on logic or reason, but is tautological and elliptical, emotional & politically correct in nature.

This is the nature of political correctness. It disallows people full use of their capabilities for reason, for an irrational fear of "racism" which isn't object racism.......but only the phantom fear of being labeled a "racist." It is an attack, and an elliptically wielded weapon used as such to shut people down, and shut down objective, fair conversation.

And everything you're trying to convince everyone here of does rely on logic and reason?....those damn elitist capitalist banker jewish commies, and their vast conspiracy to make everybody eat Kosher Dill pickles and sing peaceful chants or else, while taking all the wealth for themselves and leaving us all to stave, aside from the kosher dill pickles lolz...I mean come on this stuff you're saying isn't holding up too well either.

Also if you're so great at using your capabilities for reason you wouldn't be blaming all the worlds problems on basically 'the jews' like the Nazis did, and trying to argue they have some vast consipiricy...there is a wealthy elite, they are screwing a lot of people over but a lot of the stuff you've presented is way over the top. I don't know if you're racist or misinformed....thus far I'd believe either but can't put my finger on which one.

More like doing all that while screwing a significant portion of the population over.....its not so much that they work together but rather the twisted way in which they do it. People are allowed financial freedom and pseudo-personal freedom at the price of having complete loyalty to the system, meaning willing to sell out their fellow citizens and watch carefully for any defiance. And I am actually somewhat amazed my claim of that hasn't gotten more opposition, usually there is more so it is a bit strange no ones jumping down my throat about it.

Oh and typically in fascist systems they prefer to eliminate portions of the population who are struggling or who are experiencing problems in society rather than address the issues those segments of the population deal with. I see disturbing trends here and there which seem to be pointing towards support of that kind of treatment of the struggling segments of society.

So....you are saying that he IS racist, and that he IS antisemitic. But its unfair to CALL him a "racist", and an "antisemite" even though he is those things?

Janissy was talking to Whathappened. I just thought I'd offer my two cents worth.

Anyway, I like the idea that I should be grateful for being offered the opportunity to speak.

By the way, I'm always amused by the term 'racist and anti-Semite'. The implication there is that Jews are so much more important than everyone else that racism against them belongs in a category of its own. Is this what you believe?

Don't let one bad apple spoil the bunch.

We have MANY excellent, substantive threads in here.

This is just "one bad apple."

There's talk of a "Jewish Conspiracy"--that's the same ole Anti-Semitic garbage that has been spewed forth for years.

I'm a Jew--and I control nothing. I'm a working man with debts. There's no Cabal which would get me out of my obligations.

Same with just about every other Jew. And Gentile.

Get out in the world more, get to know real people.

By the way: I know my history. I know there has been genocide perpetuated by many ethnic groups, towards many ethnic groups.

BUT DOES IT MAKE IT RIGHT??????

This was going to be my response, but he pretty much wrote it for me already, and so I'll just use it.

Yeah...sweet leaf. If you listen to what I've said and not, what you've tried to imagine what I said, a lot of it is factual - as in verifiable from multiple sources, but you're not interested in doing that.

If you say the truth and that truth happens to involve someone of Jewish descent or heritage, you're labeled anti-Semitic.

You've yet to actually establish anything you've said as 'fact'. This whole thread you've made assertions, and when pressed to present evidence, have come up with absolutely nothing. Frankly I'm surprised this thread is even still active, because you're clearly not interested in any actual dialogue.

Why has this thread not been locked? With all the furor about misogyny and racism and people advocating that comments disparaging specific groups of people be censored, why is all this anti-Jewish talk being allowed?

I feel personally threatened by this type of talk because allowing it while not allowing other types of negative posts implies approval for anti-semitism by this site. This is the ideology that put Jews in gas chambers and that Islamist hate groups use today to justify violence against Jews. OP, you are welcome to believe what you want, but don't disseminate your rhetoric here!

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I have been reading what you post, and yes there are a couple things you've mentioned that are based in historical fact, but the Jewish conspiracy stuff actually is not factual. Also it is not factual to claim the wealthy elite prove there is a 'communist' conspiracy since its contradictory...communism in its actual form does not allow a disproportionately wealthy ruling class, just because Marx failed at creating a proper communist society does not mean what was created in its place is communism.

You seem to have already made up your mind that its an evil Jewish/communist conspiracy which there is no substantial evidence for....There is substantial evidence there is a wealthy elite class who has disproportionate wealth/power/resources compared to the majority on the planet who do have a heavy influence on the government in such a way the government is starting to be more concerned with keeping them happy than representing the people let alone serving the people and that type of thing leans more towards fascism than communism, if you actually go and look into what both of those actually are and how they actually differ.