Do you believe in a shared/ collective conciousness?

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No.

I believe in shared cultures, shared experiences, and shared living spaces; but never shared consciousness.

Synchronicity is when fish or birds synchronize their bodies as if they all share the same mind at the same time. It's really cool, only they seem more in tune with a collective while most humans are cut off from it since we lack basic instincts other species share.

It's the same sort of thing as synchronized swimming involving humans or even other animals humans have trained.

Birds and fish do not communicate verbally or in written form like human synchronized swimmers who say to one another, this is what we are going to do, or have names for the series of movements and then list and share the order in which they will be performed.

When captive animals are synchronized, it's usually because of interference by humans who have trained them to perform a series of movements at the same time.

It's a beautiful thing too.. for humans to be connected like this too.. and it's too bad it is a lost art.. of a human mind and body more mechanized as robot that truly more fully alive in potential together as a connecting force of nature and animal rather than just another cog in a cultural machine of illusory ways of zoo and everlasting.. now.. Prison life...

Truly the human zoo.. as culture is the most captivating ZOO..

as far as these human eyes can see.. in synchronicity as such..

And I can spot a person locked in the Zoo of Prison in life.. in the flesh or word of now..

And that is ART OF EMOTIONAL DISCERNMENT.. AND NEVER A SCIENCE OF ROBOT.. IN PRISON ALONE..

TO BE ALIVE IN FULLER HUMAN POTENTIAL IS TO BE CONNECTED IN A TAPESTRY OF SYNCHRONICITY FLOW..

or the others 'place' of truly death in a cultural illusory camp of life.

REAL Heaven or Hell is a choice, not a LITERAL place.

Unfortunately, most people do not know the choice
with human relative free WILL exercised as such IN JUST LETTING GO..
in synchronous flow of animal and nature TOGETHERCONNECTINGASONELIFEFORCENOW!..!

I love watching starlings. It's like magic in motion. We have a small flock locally of a couple hundred birds but nothing like the
60 000 in this video.

So magical how 60,000 birds become one. That is one of the most miraculous examples on earth imo. People want to call starlings weeds and talk about them like they are nothing but this shows how truly extraordinary they are. People should not take such incredible creatures for granted. It is one of those rare events, to see something like this. It is more rare than any diamonds or gold in my opinion only strangely enough, humans cannot discern true worth.

Also, it's interesting how there's always at least one starling that seems kind of lost and has to recover and get back in synch with the rest.

It's called "Murmuration", and there is nothing magical about it.

Source: "The Startling Science of Starling Murmuration"

Next is the conclusion of a real scientific research paper, published in 2010 in "Behavioral Ecology"; an Oxford peer-review journal:Source: "Self-organized aerial displays of thousands of starlings: a model"

QED: There are perfectly ordinary and mundane explanations for murmuration that do not require positing anything 'supernatural'. "Shared Consciousness" is a myth.

Might as well be magic to humans since we cannot even begin to do it and there must be some kind of mental thing going on or they wouldn't be able to synch. Even flying requires their minds. And for their minds to all work together like that at the same time, theoretically, it does imply a "shared" event?

We might be able to do something similar with ground motion in thousands of people but not without communication of some kind first...

Where we stand now, technological-wise, we cannot synch in flight like that, with that many people that close together although sky divers can synch on a limited basis.

We cannot synch that many planes that close together at once, in that intricate way.

We cannot do any kind of grand scale synching as a species without intense communication and planning first.

So what they do really is magical to us since we are far from accomplishing it.

We might be able to do something similar one day with drones but it would take a lot of preparation first, lots more than it appears to take the starlings.

Since time flows backwards as well as forwards, often clairvoyance happens as a result of thinking a lot about something in the future. We're all hooked to mass culture and this can give us the impression of a hive mind, but we're just reflecting on our own future experiences that we happen to sometimes share with other people.

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Evidence, please?

Evidence, please?

Something other than re-stating your beliefs, or citing how many other people believe as you do.

For instance, I published links to two articles from reputable journals, and even quoted from them verbatim. Will you do that?

Any sufficiently advanced technology is magic to those who don't understand it.

Humans have found ways to synchronize activities down to the nanosecond. Have you ever heard of the Global Positioning System? It is also a time-base, used to synchronize and coordinate activities around the world, and even robots traveling to other planets!

One person's lack of understanding does not even imply that a natural event is 'magic'.

Dunne's book provides a pretty good account of how we actually experience precognition. Whether or not it's a real phenomenon, myself and a lot of people experience it this way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Experiment_with_Time

http://news.discovery.com/space/could-h ... 110316.htm

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In other words, the alleged 'predictions' made by Dunne have never been shown to have come true.

He describes a process that is essentially a form of sensory deprivation, which itself will eventually induce hallucinations. Thus, his 'predictions' are likely derived from nothing more than what one would see after taking an anesthetic or hallucinogen.

It's also worthy to note that Dunne's book (first published in 1927) has been used mostly as a basis for other woo-woo theories, as well as works of fantasy and fiction.

Using a piece of wooishness to support another piece of wooishness is not what I asked for.

I'm asking for evidence, please?

The Higgs boson appeared after the LHC collision occurred, thus disproving the fantasy that time moves backwards.

Haven't you been following the news? I have.

He doesn't have to. I'm not bothered really. See problem with the likes of you hat needs evidence for everything... well... to me it's just a form of OCD really.

A belief in collective consciousness is really important...but not important enough to be bothered? Also, as someone who is aware of Francis E. Dec, I'm a fan of all of this long free form poetry from aghogday and I want more of it.

What I'm saying probably sounds very ignorant to people who actually understand quantum mechanics, but I keep hearing that the usual rules of causality seem to break down at the subatomic level. This makes the idea of precognition being at play within certain mental processes not seem totally outlandish to me.