LIFE; What is it?

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For starters, gas composition of the body. To be alive and multicellular is to be in constant gas exchange (respiration) with the world, plants and animals both. To be alive and a single cell (as part of a multicellular organism or as a stand-alone single celled organism) is also to be in constant exchange but anaerobic bacteria can use electron acceptors other than oxygen.

In any case, all that stops at death. This inevitably changes the gas composition of whatever just died. Then for us multicelled organisms, the bacteria in and on us can grow unrestrained which pretty quickly causes structural changes. Bacterial cells themselves break apart at their death and the contents spill out into wherever they were. Trying to arrange those spilled chemicals back into a bacterial shape would take......a billion years

The constraints of a reality humans create for themselves and impose on others is most definitely Einstein's DEF of the insanity of doing the same stuff over and over again and expecting a different result.

I come here to this Internet site to study the human condition. I come here to this Internet site for folks to criticize both my style of language and content of language, to again study the human condition. I come here to this Internet site for inspiration to build upon ideas of imagination in prose for the creation activity that I enjoy in life so much, as it stimulates parts of my brain AND body in BALANCE that are NEVER EVER stimulated by analytical thinking mind, alone.

I go to literally hundreds of DIVERSE International Poetry sites to gain inspiration and create free verse poetry that is assessed by VETERANS of both writing and reading poetry, as 'a new strata of free verse poetry never seen before with poet eyes'. Some folks describe it as beautiful, astounding, and amazing; other folks describe it as too much text.

And yes, I can prove that with both quotes and links on request.

And that's truly amazing, considering that in 2010 when I start this writing expedition, I can write little more than 'laundry lists' of facts in techno speak for the Federal government, in some of the hats assigned by the Bosses working for the Federal Government through strict regulations and guidelines, IN MY federal service 'there' through the course of a quarter of a century.

Oldavid, OMG of Evolving and Amazing CREATIVE Nature, you come here over and over and OVER again every day trying to convince college educated young folks that evolution is some kind of conspiracy generated by scientist nerds THAT YOU MAGICALLY CHANGE INTO NARCISSISTS, all over the world, for CLOSE TO A century now.

You do prove in the parameters of this website that 'human evolution' is almost impossible for 'some' folks in the span of months, on a website, beyond the logic of repeating stuff that no one is ever EVER going to believe.

I communicate with you because you are a sure source of inspiration in my study of the human condition, as your flavor, though extremely vanilla, is fascinating, per doing the same stuff over and over and expecting a different result that human common sense dictates is literally impossible.

Need I say more. I tend to avoid personal attacks as they are the lowest level of hierarchy of human critical thinking on the bottom of the pyramid of human evolution in just one life.

However, I do play with humans from time to time; as that can be fun too..

I HAVE only one important piece of advice for you, NOW.

Change is LIFE.

Try it; you might like
it, OR NOT.

But anyway, honestly, you inspire me enough in a way;
that truly I can write FREE verse poetry about you, in an
anonymous kind of way,
in a prayer for
change
for
you..

Sincerely,

Friend.

YOU are
special...;")

And you 'should' feel special;
as those words are words I usually
reserve for truly close friends, like my
Muslim female friend(s) from Pakistan.

AND they move out of 'the box' with
ease on a day to day basis amazingly
FREE for living in countries that
technically do NOT afford
that luxury my
friend.

It's a wonderful time in history
in the Good Ole USA to
express the human
condition in all
"i's" colors
and '50
shades
of
'GREY'.

AND TRULY FRIEND
THAT IS WHAT LIFE
IS EXPRESSED
TO THE
FULLEST;
C R E A T I V I T Y;
THE greaTEST evolution
of all in just one LIFE FOR NOW..



'The Kingdom of Heaven is Now',
expressed by the TEACHERS of past
and PRESENT come fully alive for NOW.

"Kingdom of Creativity New Israel"

Last edited by aghogday on 01 Jun 2015, 9:14 am, edited 4 times in total.

I suggest you re-read the end of page 2 and the beginning of page 3.

If you die of dehydration, your salt balances are all going to be out of wack and your cells are being destroyed. You can't then bring those cells back to life, not even by adding water - you'd need to repair damaged organelles, you'd need to repair other cells which these depend on to keep them alive (those that keep the heart beating, lungs pumping, red blood cells...). With death, all the body's functions shut off, you've got to restart all those functions to get things going again.

How do interrelated complex structures evolve? I would imagine they initially gave an advantage, but weren't vital for survival. Over time, so many new processes were built on top of them that they eventually did become vital. For example, the heart. A pump-based system of circulation allowed species to get bigger than relying on diffusion alone would do. Once the pump enabled us to grow bigger, we relied on it to stay alive.

Fanciful speculations; very attractive to anyone not constrained by observations of reality.

You can imagine anything you like but that doesn't make it either possible or probable.

Don't die of dehydration... die of heart failure... still kaput without any loss of essential atoms.

The brain requires a constant supply of oxygen. If the heart stops beating, it is deprived of that. Reactions that require oxygen cannot happen. That causes a huge chemical change.

Unlike you, my speculation is based on observation, it does not contradict the established evidence, and it is made with a knowledge of basic biology.

Oxygen. How exactly does oxygen travel the body after heart failure?

This, although you don't realise it, is quite silly.

If your lack of reasoning is continued you will be asserting that plants are not alive (no difference between a dead one and a live one) because they don't have "brain activity" and things such as yeasts and many other organisms that don't need oxygen from the air, or have a brain, are even less alive than just plain dead because dead clearly implies "was alive but now is not".

What I'm saying is that a conglomeration of atoms is not "life".

I am guessing that by "this" you mean



straw man- I have never asserted in any of my posts that brain activity is a necessary component of life. Did you not read my VERY FIRST POST in this thread where I described the cellular definition of life?

yeasts need oxygen- they just get it dissolved in whatever medium they are growing in. You may not know this but oxygen is found in other places besides air. Anaerobic bacteria don't need oxygen but they do need other molecules as electron receptors. *

straw man- I never brought up brains.


The only place where I discussed the ambiguity of alive/dead/never alive was in reference to viruses because they don't fit the cellular definition of life. Go back to the very first page where I discuss the cellular definition of life.

*why are electron receptors needed? They let electrons leave the electron transport chain (a part of the metabolic process of cellular energy production) so it doesn't stall and have to resort to anaerobic respiration which doesn't work for us multicellular organisms except in very short bursts. Oxygen is the most widely used electron receptor but there are some unicellular organisms that use other molecules.

A conglomeration of atoms is not life. There needs to be metabolism- at least in the cellular definition of life.Thus the enigma of viruses.

I think David was responding to my posts, where I said that heart failure in humans would lead to brain damage and then death. I don't actually know whether lack of support from the brain or local lactoacidosis or something is what stops metabolism, but lactoacidosis seems more likely now I think about it. Maybe lactoacidosis in the brain causes irreversible damage that the organism cannot hope to survive first?

I do agree with the points you make though, Janissy.

Yup. It's the lactoacidosis. The emergency switchover to anaerobic metabolism can keep us multicellular organisms alive for a little while but it does lead to cell death in the brain. A modest amount of that is survivable but it's not pretty. Surviving a really bad cardiac arrest can lead to some traumatic brain injury. This is a horrible shock to people who assumed that it's all going to be ok after resuscitation. As you might imagine, there is a hard limit on how much cell death a brain can withstand before it simply doesn't work at all.

I do a bit of art myself, so I see the patterns. I also raise worms.

I can see patterns too. Even patterns not of my own creation that precede me and which existed long before I recognised them.

Patterns are created and recognised by intellect, not energy.

'Daily Mass of Energy and Light'

9:16

Emotion IS energy.

Emotion IS Mass.

Brain scans evidence this IS True.

Energy is abstract constructs is words
is thoughts is intellect is Mass is ME.

Emotions energize mass of human as one.

Yes, again; emotions and energy and
mass and words and thoughts
and intellect is one MIND.

Human is energy.

Human is mass.

E is energy.

M is Mass.

C2 is Speed
of light Squared.

E=MC2 and ME.

Science, and the
FACT that I
am Energy
IS Mass
Times
Light
Squared
does
not
scare 'ME' (mind and body
in balance) is Energy me is
Mass times Speed of LIGHT squared.

It thrills me to be Energy MASS LIGHT.

Like the folks in this video:



Smiles..

I control my energy IS Mass
times Speed of Light Squared
with the synergy of All of this.

Some folks don't, so they
stay stuck HERE, instead
of the 'Milky Way' like
me..

Yes, I am more than
meets the 'eye'
at
first
glance..

YOU, yes YOU, can be
A 'Star pArt God' of 'LIGHT'
too, if you figure out
how all innately
instinctually
and intuitively
like ME
AKA
ENERGY
MASS
LIGHT.

AND sure, folks
THINK Einstein
is full of woo too;
But his imagination
and CREATIVITY
is stronger than
any textbook
OR robot
thinking
SCIENTIST
BEFORE.

WE ARE all 'CREATIVE
Stars pArts'
IF we find
THAT
in us
and
use
tHis
Energy
MASS
LIGHT
to 'our'
FULLER
HUMAN potential.

'M E' CONTROLS THIS
through the synergy
of all the above;
but yah, for
most folks
THIS
Syn-
ergy
is
WOO.
HA! BUT!
M E! CAN PROVE!
IT WORKS FOR ME!
AT least in
results
he HE!..

really? are you claiming that a rational intellect created life on earth? because, uh.. well..

Er, no. Rational is a step by step process that is peculiar to us who are stuck in space-time. However, an attempt to dissect and explain the reasoning process to irrational minds would be quite futile and I have not the slightest intention of trying it around here.

that's because you're one of the 'irrational minds' you mention. if you weren't busy trying to split hairs you'd see how at least 3 people(including aghogday) have refuted your arguments only for you to skate over the argument and start cherrypicking.