Can Mind Altering Drugs Make ASD Worse?

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Theoretically is it possible to have very minor ASD symptoms in your teens made worse by mind altering drugs i.e before drugs there were not enough symptoms for an ASD diagnosis but after mind altering drugs you gained many more symptom of ASD.

Unless you abuse the drugs, no not really.

ALTHOUGH: If your depressed or paranoid I wouldn't suggest using them, Most people can not handle dealing with their personal issues on such a scale.

I personally used LSD Lots in my younger years as a means to deal with my personal issues, and when USED and NOT abused can do a great deal of good. as with any medication or substance anything can be used or abused.

But how did it alter your mind?

It was abuse right up to a psychosis . I'm just wondering if the ASD like symptoms that came with the psychosis would have happened anyway but was just brought forward by the drug.

I used the drug to work through my inner daemons and fears, I had a lot of issues going on with PTSD and depression. LSD takes what ever is on your mind and turns your rather large hill into a mountain for you to overcome, then when you come back down that mountainous hill ends up being no more then a moll hill to step over and then move on with your life.

It basically helps you realize what you can and can not change or have or have no control over in your life, and that of what is more or most important to you in your life, so that you may move on. some people really get stuck on that esp when they have a lot of regrets or PTSD or depressions..

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I also found that mind altering drugs really helped me. I had my first experience of proper emotional connection with another person whilst on MDMA, and magic mushrooms and ayahuasca gave me the understanding that what I perceive isn't always what's really happening.
I understand that MDMA has been used experimentally with PTSD and I can understand why.
I'm not advocating illegal drug use, and haven't used these types of drugs in years, but for me it was helpful. Other people may not find it so, especially if it triggers mental health issues - I guess we are all different.

It depends on the drug and the doseage.

MDMA can help those on the spectrum who struggle with empathy, small talk, and interacting with the opposite (or same) sex, and often, those skills can be retained after the MDMA has left the body.

Do I recommend it? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Unless you're under the care and guidance of a team of M.A.P.S. physicians, who research MDMA, ptsd, and Autism.

Any other street drug, and many pharmaceutical medications make ASD significantly worse.

Cannabis is a mixed bag. For some people on the spectrum, it increases their awkwardness and social phobia, and odd behaviour. For others, it's a godsend. Although I never really used cannabis for ASD, just irritable bowel and chronic nausea, food sensory issues, sensitive gag reflex...which many on the spectrum have.

If you don't smoke weed already, for proper medical reasons. Don't start.

Alcohol, unless used properly, in small amounts, makes everything worse.

Cocaine or heroin? 100 times worse.

Basically what I'm trying to say, is that you can't fix autism with drugs, and they will make your symptoms worse, if not right away, some time down the road. Drugs make everything worse. I learned the hard way...hell...that's an understatement.

The only drugs I can think of that are beneficial to autism, and won't make it worse, are LOW DOSE benzodiazepines, preferably with a long half life and active metabolites. Studies have been done to prove this. However, it's a double edged sword. You run the risk of getting addicted, if you have no self control, and that makes everything worse.

I don't recommend benzodiazepines to anyone under the age of 25, when the brain has been mostly developed. That's the age I started taking them.

If you take drugs in your teens, while your brain is developing, then symptoms will be worse.

Drugs is like making a pact with the devil (or daedra for you skyrim enthusiasts). Things seem to work in your favour at first, then when he comes to collect, you're screwed, and wishing you never made that pact in the first place.

Excessive videogame and porn addiction also have the same effect on the brain as drugs. These, if overdone, cause even NTs to retreat into an autistic cocoon, which is very hard to get out of.

You and I have been down the same road, brother. Except the ayahuasca. Crying and vomiting for hours doesn't sound like my cup of tea (pun intended )

It may not trigger mental health issues, but the MDMA will trigger physical issues, and they don't show up right away.

Phenibut used once or twice is great for ptsd. But the best way, is to work through it...without drugs.

Kratom is healthier alternative. Its not a drug, although many people erronously believe it to be one.

Oh dear , maybe I'm in an autistic cocoon

Well, they can heighten anxiety and paranoia which are common symptoms with individuals with ASD but not innate but yes they can make things worse. Now it really depends on what mind altering drug it is and to what excess you use it, I think there can also be benefits too. Everything in moderation!

I'm just trying to figure myself out. I know ASD is something your born with but don't remember me having any ASD symptoms as a child. I took a lot of LSD in my late teens which caused a pyschosis. I've been in & out of mental hospitals several times due to pyschosis or breakdowns. I have quite a few ASD traits and it seems to fit what I'm going through but the only way it works is if I had minor symptoms before taking LSD and the psychosis brought out more symptoms or at least made me notice them.

Many autistic issues do not show them selves till puberty, that being said, impure LSD is made/cut from strychnine and that can REALLY screw with your nerves system, real true LSD have no strychnine involved in its creation, also, Taking LSD while not mentally prepared for it can also make symptoms worse not better if you do not know what to expect or are not mentally capable yet of opening your self up to that self discovery. all drugs can be a tool if used properly, or abused if negligently or ignorantly done.

I'm still none the wiser but thanks for your answer dude

Even if the LSD was not a pure cut, as little as you sound like you have done I wouldn't worry to much of what physical lasting affects it may have done to you. In my 20's not only did I use LSD for self discovery, but I also ended up abusing it too, allot, I sold it for a living for a long while and ate it like candy, and I knew the chemists and I had runners moving it for me, so I know what I am talking about. if there is anything mental going on its because you believe it is so, paranoid of it, self created. and even if there was a long lasting after affect, all you can do is not focus on it and move on with your life and not do those things again.

(what can I say, I am an old hippy out of the bygone psychedelic culture, even met timothy leary.)

To the best of my understanding, strychnine was implicated in the making of LSD, because of the side effect of stiffness. But, ergotamines are used to induce uterine contractions.

Street drugs can be hard on your system, but in knowable ways, always finding their origins in mainstream medicine, which usually happens to be the predominant gateway drug.

I'm sorry, but much of what is being offered, here, is prohibitionist propaganda. At least, when violent criminals do it, it's not under the color of authority. Freeway Rick Ross and Geraldo implicated the state as the major trafficker. Tax-and-regulate formalizes that.

Kratom tends to be restricted by govts, which traffic in opiates.

Because of it's short half life, it can be used to wean addicts.

A synthetic version was patented by big pharma, just prior to the ban.

The natural version can be concentrated into a black, tarry substance, is abused, and results in addiction. It's a drug. It causes discoloration of the skin, and heroic doses do come with a heavy bodyload.

I'm not your nanny, but, yes, it's a drug.