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28 Dec 2023, 1:55 pm

Socialism and Relationships???

I believe in the idea that under a socialist society, there would be a safe haven for all lonely men and women called "MAROF" (Ministry of Marriages, Romantic Relationships, and Friendships). The MAROF would work in a way that it would offer protection and ensure healthy relationships among the working-class. With the major MAROF centers placed in big cities, the smaller ones, as well as suburban areas would have small offices called "consultaries" where they would offer advice regarding human relationships.

Consultaries work in a way that if a person were to request a friend or a partner, the consultary would contact the nearest MAROF building which would then perform a search for the most fitting individual who shares like-minded interests with the same person regardless of gender or sexuality. The said partner would be delivered free of charge and MAROF would give a month to determine the mental capability of the person to carry the friendship or relationship with their friend or partner.

MAROF does not tolerate sexual abuse or any form of violence in human relationships and therefore MAROF has its own network of security called "Forestalls". Forestalls are the vanguard of the human relationships and intervene whenever something goes terrible or horrible such as someone being raped or someone being beaten up. Forestalls are to be placed next to consultaries and forestalls can be found within major MAROF buildings. They're basically the police stations but for protecting the human relationships and ensuring that no one breaks the law and does something horrifying to their friend or partner.

When it comes to the youth, MAROF has a restrictive policy regarding romance in youth communities. The Youth Assistance offices and consultaries ensure that young individuals have an understanding in how the human relationships work and what to do and what NOT to do. Forestalls also have the right to intervene in youth human relationships if youth individuals are committing domestic violence or sexual abuse to their partners.

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For a working man to achieve success, a love for his family, friends, and his wife is what he needs to maintain his mentality which in return will maintain a productive worker. This is essential to the Maslowian “Hierarchy of Needs”, the five-stage pyramid on what physical and psychological needs of a human being are required to achieve success and self-management. This humanist concept accurately portrays the recipe for success of one man. The five stages to achieve success and prosperity are Physiological, Safety, Love, Self-esteem, and Self-actualization.

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The National Retail Federation in 2019 stated that up to 20 billion USD was spent on Valentine’s Day with an average person spending as much as 162 USD on Valentine’s Day products. What this says is that we couldn’t care less for the capitalist greed that prevails among our lustful minds. However, it is worth mentioning that we should not move towards radical sexualization but focus on a moderate and normal romantic day without capitalist interference or overt sexualization.

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In general, love has become something that is paid for with a price in the market instead of kindness. A human is born into the world and the first thing they feel is the happiness from the birth mother who invests undying love for the child that has come into the existence of the world. The father comes in next and he also shows love in the way that he is willing to raise the child along with the mother. The father also shows love for his family that raised him and the family that he created with his wife.

The workers shall love one another, their neighbors, families, and partners no matter the cost.

The price of Love is Kindness!


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28 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm

That does it, I'm out of here.


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28 Dec 2023, 2:56 pm

RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
That does it, I'm out of here.


you're funny. :lol:



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28 Dec 2023, 2:57 pm

So you wanna state run version of this village level profession that existed the traditional peasant societies of old, and still exists in parts of the global south.


https://youtu.be/jVGNdB6iEeA



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28 Dec 2023, 5:08 pm

RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
That does it, I'm out of here.

:lol:


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28 Dec 2023, 5:14 pm

At first I just got incel vibes, and then autistic incel vibes when I got to the part about some government agency teaching youths the dos and Don’ts of relationships.

Also detect a smattering of arranged marriage vibes - much like those of certain religions in India. Pros and cons to those, but the Western view is mostly cons - even by descendants of that system.

The other thing this sci-fi fantasy is is entirely against nature and the natural order of things.. survival of the fittest, intuitive biological attraction, natural selection, winners & losers, the attractive and desirable vs those who don’t successfully procreate etc etc. This structured system of “fairness,” seems to want to completely throw away nature’s systems of evolution & procreation that have been keeping all species going for as long as they’ve existed.. suggesting one man’s self serving sci-fi fantasy is superior to all of evolutionary biology combined.. which is ridiculous and the primary reason nothing like this will ever exist outside of some sort of contained cult environment.


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28 Dec 2023, 5:26 pm

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At first I just got incel vibes, and then autistic incel vibes when I got to the part about some government agency teaching youths the dos and Don’ts of relationships.

Also detect a smattering of arranged marriage vibes - much like those of certain religions in India. Pros and cons to those, but the Western view is mostly cons - even by descendants of that system.

The other thing this sci-fi fantasy is is entirely against nature and the natural order of things.. survival of the fittest, intuitive biological attraction, natural selection, winners & losers, the attractive and desirable vs those who don’t successfully procreate etc etc. This structured system of “fairness,” seems to want to completely throw away nature’s systems of evolution & procreation that have been keeping all species going for as long as they’ve existed.. suggesting one man’s self serving sci-fi fantasy is superior to all of evolutionary biology combined.. which is ridiculous and the primary reason nothing like this will ever exist outside of some sort of contained cult environment.


Maybe there is eugenics vibe too. He thinks that the state should breed champion breeds of humans. Its hard to plow through his post so...the reader cant help but to interpret it in all kinds of possible ways. Lol!

Reminds me of a short lived WP member years ago who asserted that "Hitler was trying to breed a race of super aspies for his war effort".

I told him to "just drink some beer and sleep it off. We've all been there. Taken some bad acid. It will be okay".

He got really hurt because he was dead serious.



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28 Dec 2023, 5:30 pm

“Take some bad acid.” :lol:

Is there such a thing? :?


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28 Dec 2023, 5:52 pm

Yes. At least it was a thing in my day in the Sixties/Seventies. You could have bad experiences with a dose made in a bad batch or something.



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28 Dec 2023, 7:33 pm

Remember, socialism and communism have traditionally been hostile toward religion, so...

Woo-hoo! No more purity culture! Nobody saving themselves for marriage!


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28 Dec 2023, 7:48 pm

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Yes. At least it was a thing in my day in the Sixties/Seventies. You could have bad experiences with a dose made in a bad batch or something.

I suppose. Most of the bad acid stories I’ve heard or read about online were caused by substances other than lsd. Research chemicals and something called nbom (iirc) sooo no bad acid, just poor substitutes being sold as acid or as legal safe replacements when they’re anything but safe.


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28 Dec 2023, 8:37 pm

Thats kinda what I meant. Acid mixed with stuff thats not LSD.

I had some semi bad acid that had a lot of speed in it. Not fun. But I survived with most of my marbles.



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28 Dec 2023, 10:02 pm

I wouldn’t be pleased with finding out my acid had speed in it.

I’m happy to mix it with mdma myself, though. Good ol’ “candy flip.” 8)


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28 Dec 2023, 10:19 pm

Yugoslav1945 wrote:
Socialism and Relationships???

I believe in the idea that under a socialist society, there would be a safe haven for all lonely men and women called "MAROF" (Ministry of Marriages, Romantic Relationships, and Friendships). The MAROF would work in a way that it would offer protection and ensure healthy relationships among the working-class. With the major MAROF centers placed in big cities, the smaller ones, as well as suburban areas would have small offices called "consultaries" where they would offer advice regarding human relationships. . .
Interesting speculation. I suspect there must be dozens of books in the Fantasy & Science-Fiction section of your local bookstore that feature stories on the very subject.

So you want the government to issue to you your very own wife/housemaid/breeder . . .

Ain't gonna happen, kiddo.


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28 Dec 2023, 11:07 pm

That requires the vast majority of people to understand human needs and regulate the system.It's difficult


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29 Dec 2023, 12:18 am

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That requires the vast majority of people to understand human needs and regulate the system.It's difficult


Hence why education must be free. People must learn about their basic needs. Paying with money is useless as even the poorest wouldn't be able to afford for basic education in these times.


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