Scientists Maybe One Step Closer To Having A Braincell.

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17 Mar 2024, 8:49 pm

Interesting. Imagine realizing your entire existence was Pong. :lol:


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17 Mar 2024, 8:57 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Interesting. Imagine realizing your entire existence was Pong. :lol:


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18 Mar 2024, 12:57 am

Not sure if impressive or ridiculous.

Like, should we be making fake brains? Or
should we just actually look after people and the environment they depend on for survival and the perpetuation of our species? :?


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18 Mar 2024, 1:42 am

AI?



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18 Mar 2024, 3:55 am

One brain cell? :D



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18 Mar 2024, 8:30 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Not sure if impressive or ridiculous.

Like, should we be making fake brains? Or
should we just actually look after people and the environment they depend on for survival and the perpetuation of our species? :?

All sorts of research doesn't immediately seem like it will improve people's lives, but eventually leads to something that does.

It's not hard to imagine this sort of research leading to treatments for dementia or brain injuries, which would undoubtedly "look after people".

This research is being performed by Cortical Labs - a private research laboratory based in Australia. The total R&D budget of the government of Australia is 12.6bn AUD (£6.5bn/8.25bn USD/11.25bn CAD/€7.6bn), which is about 2% of government spending. So even if Cortical Labs is getting a grant worth 100% of Australia's public R&D, Australia is spending 98% of its tax takings on other things. But realistically the cost is probably only about $20m, financed by a combination of government, non-profits, and investors, out of a GDP of AU$2.3trn.



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18 Mar 2024, 9:01 am

^ Australia's economy is worth 2.3 trillion GDP?

According to Wikipedia, last year in 2023 it was more like 1.7 trillion GDP. That figure you mention seems a little high, even accounting for any growth in 2024.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Australia



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18 Mar 2024, 9:48 am

I'm skeptical, How does a network of a few cells, that can receive no sensory input play pong. Could you play pong with your eyes closed?



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18 Mar 2024, 10:09 am

Is puzzling isn't it. How can braincells do that? Suppose they must do or we can't think? Whoever braincells they were need more practice at Pong! :D


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18 Mar 2024, 10:14 am

Imagine how smart a brain weighing a ton would be!The ai of biology versus the ai of computer science


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19 Mar 2024, 5:40 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
^ Australia's economy is worth 2.3 trillion GDP?

According to Wikipedia, last year in 2023 it was more like 1.7 trillion GDP. That figure you mention seems a little high, even accounting for any growth in 2024.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Australia

You've failed to convert the units properly.



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19 Mar 2024, 7:03 am

The_Walrus wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Not sure if impressive or ridiculous.

Like, should we be making fake brains? Or
should we just actually look after people and the environment they depend on for survival and the perpetuation of our species? :?

All sorts of research doesn't immediately seem like it will improve people's lives, but eventually leads to something that does.

It's not hard to imagine this sort of research leading to treatments for dementia or brain injuries, which would undoubtedly "look after people".

This research is being performed by Cortical Labs - a private research laboratory based in Australia. The total R&D budget of the government of Australia is 12.6bn AUD (£6.5bn/8.25bn USD/11.25bn CAD/€7.6bn), which is about 2% of government spending. So even if Cortical Labs is getting a grant worth 100% of Australia's public R&D, Australia is spending 98% of its tax takings on other things. But realistically the cost is probably only about $20m, financed by a combination of government, non-profits, and investors, out of a GDP of AU$2.3trn.

The most likely use for this would be like those heart cells on a chip years ago. The most accurate way of knowing if something is toxic to brain cells in general, is to test them on brain cells. For practical and ethical reasons, I don't anticipate these being used for other things as brain cells without the constraint of having to fit a specific cranium aren't really that much different for use in computers.

That won't completely solve the problem of medications causing issues with the brain, but it would cut down a lot on the things that are just inherently toxic as opposed to the things like Adderall that can just damage specific cells. (From what I understand, Adderall can short circuit a key safety valve, it's unclear to me at what dosage that becomes a concern)