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Should we abolish liberalism in America?
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16 Apr 2024, 10:11 am

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A lot of the homeless are the visible homeless too that many people have lost patience with. Many homeless people often know friends or family somewhere that will help them but not the visible homeless. Being on the streets is a sign that help has been taken off the table for one reason or another.

Substance abuse and crime is common for the visible homeless and simply giving them a home does little. They lost their home in the first place.


Brings me to another issue. Why isn't the substance abuse being dealt with swiftly? If these "visible homeless" people who make people go mad with their lack of gratitude are on the streets and are doing this, why aren't they jailed? At least put 'em there and make it a shelter every time they commit a crime like substance abuse.


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16 Apr 2024, 10:16 am

Substance abuse isn’t a crime unless one is using illegal substances. You seem to want to put an awful lot of people in jail. There wouldn’t be space for them all, it’s expensive, and, most importantly, jailing people without good reason is inhumane.

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Why isn't the substance abuse being dealt with swiftly?
Because it’s a complex, multi-faceted issue without a swift solution. Also, people have the freedom to make choices about their own intake as long as they aren’t using illegal drugs.


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16 Apr 2024, 10:35 am

Yugoslav1945 wrote:
Nades wrote:
A lot of the homeless are the visible homeless too that many people have lost patience with. Many homeless people often know friends or family somewhere that will help them but not the visible homeless. Being on the streets is a sign that help has been taken off the table for one reason or another.

Substance abuse and crime is common for the visible homeless and simply giving them a home does little. They lost their home in the first place.


Brings me to another issue. Why isn't the substance abuse being dealt with swiftly? If these "visible homeless" people who make people go mad with their lack of gratitude are on the streets and are doing this, why aren't they jailed? At least put 'em there and make it a shelter every time they commit a crime like substance abuse.


Because it's complicated and having prisoms fu of substance abusers is a problem in an of itself that costs the tax payers a lot of money with on a cause not many will agree with.

I would love to cold turkey them in a cell as much as any other guy, but the reality is many can't be helped because instant gratification and no self control is what their personality is all about. Filtering out the ones that can be helped from those who can't is difficult in its own right.



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16 Apr 2024, 11:48 am

Nades wrote:
Yugoslav1945 wrote:
Nades wrote:
A lot of the homeless are the visible homeless too that many people have lost patience with. Many homeless people often know friends or family somewhere that will help them but not the visible homeless. Being on the streets is a sign that help has been taken off the table for one reason or another.

Substance abuse and crime is common for the visible homeless and simply giving them a home does little. They lost their home in the first place.


Brings me to another issue. Why isn't the substance abuse being dealt with swiftly? If these "visible homeless" people who make people go mad with their lack of gratitude are on the streets and are doing this, why aren't they jailed? At least put 'em there and make it a shelter every time they commit a crime like substance abuse.


Because it's complicated and having prisoms fu of substance abusers is a problem in an of itself that costs the tax payers a lot of money with on a cause not many will agree with.

I would love to cold turkey them in a cell as much as any other guy, but the reality is many can't be helped because instant gratification and no self control is what their personality is all about. Filtering out the ones that can be helped from those who can't is difficult in its own right.


Taxpayers a lot of money? Sounds like luxury rather than punishment. Should only feed the guards and maintain guards and only feed prisoners but not give them luxury. Seriously, how is prison now becoming less of a place of rehabilitation and more of a second home? Time to remind the criminals of what they will go through if they do bad stuff.


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16 Apr 2024, 11:53 am

Keeping a lot of people in jail does cost a great deal of money even without luxuries. We should be spending more on inmates in order to make prison more about rehabilitation and less about punishment. Prison systems that focus more on rehabilitation tend to have fewer repeat offenders.

On top of being inhumane, jailing alcoholics and addicts is ineffective. In order to stay sober, people have to want it. In my experience, the first thing alcoholics do when they get out of jail is drink which isn’t that surprising from a psychological standpoint.

Sobriety may seem like less of a priority to people when their life has already gone to s**t.


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