Verified pro-Nazi X accounts flourish under Elon Musk

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25 Apr 2024, 9:53 pm

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[I can't believe how American Conservatives are basically just reactionary nationalists just like those insidious Putinists of Russia. The word "conservative" is completely out of place for America for they're not even propagating preservation but instead reaction. In general, a conservative does want to uphold traditional values but will be more likely to accept some social change, unlike a reactionary who will vehemently oppose such and try to revert back to the older times as it deems the past more fit than the present. So, the so-called "conservatives" of America aren't even real conservatives but just a bunch of reactionaries.

They still identify with the conservative label, because their belief system is unchanged from when those ideas were conservative rather than reactionary. "Reactionary" feels to them like a label given to them by those dang America-hating socialists. Some American conservatives have embraced the label, like how Some have openly embraced calling themselves nationalists. Some conservatives have gone the other way and tried to brand themselves as "classical liberals"; that is: what they think "liberals" were before Obama (or whatever they blame) came along and made Democrats all hate America and love socialism. These "classical liberals" stylize themselves as tolerant and open-minded, but only inasmuch as it makes them seem to the unaware like their intolerance and closed-mindedness are the result of careful, meaningful thought. It's the same angle they use to try and paint the left as intolerant, even though not ten years ago they were crying in unison about how "tolerance" is just a commie buzzword (or something).


It's basically: "If I can't say what I want, when I want, on whatever platform I want, with total impunity, then I'm being silenced/oppressed/persecuted".


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Read the Complete and Unedited Article  HERE .

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Australia is taking on "arrogant billionaire" Elon Musk over violent images on X

At issue is the right of X to publish a video showing the moment a 16-year-old allegedly stabbed a bishop in an Orthodox Christian Church in Sydney earlier this month.

Australian authorities say the clips threw fuel on a riot that erupted outside the church after the attack and shouldn’t be available for general viewing on a global platform, where it could be used to radicalize potential offenders.

The country’s e-safety commissioner ordered social media giants to take it down.

Most complied, but X didn’t go far enough, according to the commissioner.

Australia wants X to remove the video completely, not just hide it from Australian users who could circumvent a local ban by using virtual private networks.

X says that’s an assault on free speech.

Anti-Jew, Nazi Sympathizer, Pro-Violence, and a Trumpster too boot.  What a waste of oxygen.


Given that you have had an Israeli flag as your avatar ever since Israel started its murderous assault on Gaza, I think I can dismiss your criticisms of Elon Musk for being supposedly "pro-violence" just as easily as I can dismiss every other criticism I've seen you make of a milquetoast conservative for their supposed "racism" or "religious fanaticism".



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Today, 6:55 am

Twitter / X is a private company, so Elon Musk can do what he wants with it.

Isn't "private companies can do what they want" the standard response liberals come out with whenever someone complains about social media censorship?

Yes it is. So I can use the same argument in this case.

It's surreal seeing liberals tearing their hair out because some social media platform has become about 10% less restrictive than it was before.



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Today, 6:58 am

A lot of the supposed "pro-Nazi" account on X are just people who point to alleged Jewish over-representation in this or that area of life and wonder out loud if it's good for the rest of us or not.

Meanwhile, there are plenty of fanatical Zionist accounts on X openly calling for Israel's onslaught on Gaza to be even more fierce than it already is, and you won't see NBC complaining about that.



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Today, 12:08 pm

slam_thunderhide wrote:
Twitter / X is a private company, so Elon Musk can do what he wants with it.

Isn't "private companies can do what they want" the standard response liberals come out with whenever someone complains about social media censorship?

Yes it is. So I can use the same argument in this case.

It's surreal seeing liberals tearing their hair out because some social media platform has become about 10% less restrictive than it was before.

I roll my eyes at liberals who respond to private censorship that they like by appealing to private property, yet when it is conservatives saying things they don't like, suddenly private property is less important than who is right or wrong. Liberals gotta unlearn this Anglo tendency to act like property rights trump morality. People shouldn't face consequences because they said something a site owner doesn't like. They should face consequences for saying openly awful things that only damage society. Its like when little Billy builds a fort and makes it so everyone has to follow all his rules and demands respect whether those rules are good or bad--even if people go there only to take advantage of those rules to do damaging things they can't as easily get away with elsewhere.
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A lot of the supposed "pro-Nazi" account on X are just people who point to alleged Jewish over-representation in this or that area of life and wonder out loud if it's good for the rest of us or not.

Meanwhile, there are plenty of fanatical Zionist accounts on X openly calling for Israel's onslaught on Gaza to be even more fierce than it already is, and you won't see NBC complaining about that.

"Jews have a disproportionate amount of influence" is one of the oldest, most blatant anti-Semitic talking points. "Wondering out loud if it's good" for non-Jews that Jews have so much influence is anti-Semitic. It is not innocently posing a question from a place of curiosity, humility, and respect. It is an anti-Semitic foot-in-the-door tactic.

This talking point is also one I love to point to to show that there is no acceptable level of socio-economic success for non-white, non-Christians. Forgive the generalized examples:
Mexican-Americans living in poverty? "They shouldn't have come here if all they offer is poverty!"
Asian-Americans get college degrees and enter the middle class? "See? It's not that hard to succeed as a minority! Stop complaining about racism!"
Jewish Americans support each other, build wealth within the capitalist system, value education, and become professionals who make meaningful contributions to society? "Awfully suspicious that those Jews have so much success! They're going to hijack the system to benefit themselves! If the system was really working, then constitution-loving protestants would be the ones with all that success and influence!"

Christian capitalist conservatives firmly believe the capitalist system is fair (or at least more fair than any alternative), and that their religious and political values are the result of their being hard-working and moral. Therefore, if they do not succeed in that system as much as someone else who does not share those values, it is treated as a result of cheating. Hence why conservative politicians tell their base they have been "left behind by the system", yet when liberals also struggle, they just need to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps".

Maybe if conservative red states stopped blaming the Dems, immigrants, coastal elites, and Jews for their problems, they would be able to focus more on improving their own situation.


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slam_thunderhide wrote:
A lot of the supposed "pro-Nazi" account on X are just people who point to alleged Jewish over-representation in this or that area of life and wonder out loud if it's good for the rest of us or not.

The never ending overuse of Nazi comparisons is offensive to me. Unless the account is calling for the extermination of a group of people based on how they were born, their religion, or has a bunch of Nazi symbols it is not a pro Nazi account.

But as ronona79 said the idea that Jews have disproportionate influence has a long history of use by people who are prejudiced against Jews and have used the idea to harm Jews. Antisemitism is very different the most prejudices. Most bigotry is based on the notion that “they” are inferior.
Modern antisemitism is based on the idea that Jews who are 0.2 percent of the worlds population have such superior skills that they control the 99.8 percent of the rest of the world.

At this point no matter what the intent anybody who goes there is not going to look good to anybody who not antisemitic.


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