The mathematics of why I can't get a girlfriend

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24 May 2008, 8:36 pm

I'm bored, so I'm pulling a theory out of a hat.


Attractiveness variables:

b - Your base-level of attractiveness, physical (decimal, values 1-10)
c - Your base-level of attractiveness, chemical (decimal, values 1-10)
p - Your base-level of attractiveness, personality, surface (decimal, values 1-10)
P - Your base-level of attractiveness, personality, actual (decimal, values 1-10)
C - Your "creepiness" level. Anything that you do that deviates social norms elevates this variable.
d - The level of familiarity/closeness in the relationship

(Different sets of traits are weighed differently by different people. p and P are inclusive of hobbies, personality traits, and compatibility based on complementary and similarity traits)

Time variables:
t - time from initial-impression



Functions:

fA(t) : Function about how attractive you are to her right now:
k(b * fx1(t)) + k(c * fx2(t)) + k(p * fx3(t)) + k(P * fy(t)) - k * fz(t) - k * fz2(C) * fx4(t)

fx1(t), fx2(t), fx3(t) are functions of time, which converge to zero.
- fx(1) Has a linear distribution
- fx(2),fx(3) - have normal distribution
fy(t) - is a function of time, which converges to one
fz1(t) - Is a function to compute attractiveness based on familiarity, which may begin very low or very high, depending on the person, before stabilizing, then diverging.
fz2(C) - This function computes intolerance to violation of social norms (or, the creep-factor). This function may converge or diverge, depending on the other attractiveness variables.

k - Each k value represents a different constant value


fB(t)

The chance that you'll get a date:
(k + fA(t) + fB(d))
fB(t) - This is a function based on closeness. High closeness will cause the output of this function to go negative (eg., the 'friend zone'), which can only be counter-balanced by high attraction.

High levels of C, or low levels of fA(t) will increase the chances of total rejection (were the person stops talking to you entirely). Yes, this is the one place where having high fA(t) is good! Other types of rejection may exist, from damaging (distancing) to status-quo (no significant change in relationship), to temporal rejection (resulting in later re-evaluation) but are ignored for sake of simplicity.

Let's call the chances of total rejection fR(t). fR(t)'ing is bad.


Variables of how much you like someone:
f11(t) : Function in time that determines how much you like a person
fl2(t) : Function in time that determines how much physically attracted you are to a person
fl3(fl1(t),d) : The emotional risk involved with total rejection - Higher when fl1(t) is high.


Now, "should you ask her on a date"?
fA(t) * fl1(t) - fl3(fl1(t),d) * fR(t)


Or, simply put:
If you know someone well, chances are that you'll be rejected, since attractiveness is low, and emotional risk is high. This is a lose-lose situation. This is also the strategy that I had been following.

If you are highly attractive, you are more likely to be able to get a date near the time of initial meeting. Other, who are less attractive on the physical and surface-level will have the best chances some time after first meeting the other person, but before the familiarity equations begin to substantially deteriorate the attractiveness equations. Note: The time window may elapse before the value of fl1(t) begins to substantially increase.

The more you like a person, the more risk is involved, but all but the most attractive people will be shot down if they move immediately. So, the best time to ask someone out is:

When the answer to the question: Do I like/would I be interested in dating person ____ is 'maybe'.



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24 May 2008, 9:17 pm

Oooooooooh, fascinating.



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24 May 2008, 9:58 pm

I prefer expected value calculations, but you math variables could be included in that.



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24 May 2008, 10:02 pm

I'm not entirely certain this is a math problem.


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24 May 2008, 10:06 pm

That made me brain hurt O_o



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24 May 2008, 10:19 pm

Makes sense according to my experience anyway. How would you go about filling in the variables?


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25 May 2008, 12:14 am

when considering love and romance...you need to use irrational numbers...;)

Part of it may be doing math like this at home, instead of finding someone you can get along with. And that can be harder than any sort of math you can name...;)



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25 May 2008, 12:18 am

pakled wrote:
when considering love and romance...you need to use irrational numbers...;)


Check it out. A math joke that WORKED.



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25 May 2008, 12:48 am

that's why you don't get a girlfriend

I'm an aspie woman that hates looking girly and doing things like nails, hairdo's, and fashion. but I did all of that to get a boyfriend.
use your intelligence



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25 May 2008, 1:27 am

caramateo wrote:
that's why you don't get a girlfriend

I'm an aspie woman that hates looking girly and doing things like nails, hairdo's, and fashion. but I did all of that to get a boyfriend.
use your intelligence


<shakes head>

Guys don't have the option of prettying ourselves up and waiting to attract someone.



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25 May 2008, 3:36 am

I think the theory is cool. I dont think it is so easy to quantify attraction and all that stuff though.


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25 May 2008, 9:03 am

Actually, I'd put my money on you seeing relationships as maths being a reason why you can't get a girlfriend :P Unless this thread is entirely tongue in cheek.



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25 May 2008, 11:09 am

The Mathematics of Why You Can't Get a Girlfriend:

You used mathematics to determine it, you're using the wrong language. Use a language that both you and the potential female specimens can understand.



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25 May 2008, 11:14 am

caramateo wrote:
that's why you don't get a girlfriend

I'm an aspie woman that hates looking girly and doing things like nails, hairdo's, and fashion. but I did all of that to get a boyfriend.
use your intelligence


Sorry madame but never compare your case to guys'.



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25 May 2008, 11:27 am

Thomas1138 wrote:
pakled wrote:
when considering love and romance...you need to use irrational numbers...;)


Check it out. A math joke that WORKED.


:lmao: yes. I think it is very clever.


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25 May 2008, 11:51 am

Xelebes wrote:
The Mathematics of Why You Can't Get a Girlfriend:

You used mathematics to determine it, you're using the wrong language. Use a language that both you and the potential female specimens can understand.


MS Excel would do nicely. If not choose any programming language you want, I just want it to be executable. Times awasting.