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KingdomOfRats
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10 Oct 2008, 5:25 pm

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yes cute mouse,
they can and do spread disease.

leptospirosis in the urine.
faecal contamination. e. coli, klebsiella....usual bugs.
fleas.

they will usually contaminaye food when they crawl over it to eat/steal it.

get over the cuteness, see the diseas potential.

gestation 19-21 days, can become sexually mature within 4 -6 weeks. litter size average 4-6. you do the math.

1 year is a lot of meeces....a lot of disease.

kill now, save the cutesy stories. sorry for the bluntnees.

humans spread disease/illness as well,often when they know they are carrying them.


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10 Oct 2008, 5:36 pm

Whether trapped or dead, gone is gone.
The ones I have won't be breeding in the bucket overnight.

I'm just wondering about mouse psychology.
If I dump them together in the woods, and the adult happens to be the actual momma, would it matter? Or would the whole thing be so traumatic that she'll just run off anyway?


Half-hour later update: Three little mice, all snuggly together.
I gave them a cap-full of water and some cereal.
Momma better show tonight.



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10 Oct 2008, 6:00 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:
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humans spread disease/illness as well,often when they know they are carrying them.


not to sure what your point is.

mice diseas is preventable.
you prevent diseases by killing the vectors...in this case, the mice.


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10 Oct 2008, 6:03 pm

Tahitiii wrote:
I'm just wondering about mouse psychology.
If I dump them together in the woods, and the adult happens to be the actual momma, would it matter? Or would the whole thing be so traumatic that she'll just run off anyway?


Probably she'll run off. But depending on what stage they are at, they might make it anyway. If not, well, owls must eat.

I kill mine and put them out on the bird-table. Jays take them away. It is funny to watch, because they are not quite but nearly too big for a jay to carry. But I would not kill baby ones, and don't recommend that anybody do so, it is bad for your head.



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10 Oct 2008, 6:11 pm

Yes, or you can remove the vectors from your immediate presence. Works just as well.

I have nothing against my cats hunting mice, birds, flies, lizards... they're the cat's natural prey. But something about a human chasing a mouse seems inherently silly to me; it's not like we're going to eat the mouse. Trap and release, if you can. There are, I believe, also ways to repel mice rather than remove or kill them.

I also have rather strong opinions about trophy-hunting... If you kill it, you better eat it. None of this "kill the deer, stuff its head, and let the rest rot" thing. Animals may not be sentient life, but they are alive and they can suffer and that means we've got certain responsibilities towards them.


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10 Oct 2008, 6:19 pm

Callista wrote:
I have nothing against my cats hunting mice, birds, flies, lizards... they're the cat's natural prey.



Alas, the cat is not the birds' and lizards' natural predator. Housecats are African beasties. Some species of American songbirds are not at all well-prepared to deal with them.



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13 Oct 2008, 10:05 am

Well, I ended up with a total of four.
Three babies and one slightly bigger and different but didn't seem big enough to be the momma.
The three are so little and stupid, I doubt they have much of a chance.
Whatever. We dumped them in the woods the next day.



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13 Oct 2008, 10:12 am

They are not stupid, they are just learning. My little mouse was the same way but she learned so quickly how to get away from me, the big bad human!
Very, very smart!