Death Penalty

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If we were to have true justice, he would be killed in the manner he murdered. That's not possible though and it would be cruel to put anyone up to the task of killing a man by beating him to death with a lamp the same way he beat his wife to death(with a lamp).

That said, I think the current death penalty system should be retained and that there should be far more executions a year. There's always that tug of war between compassion and justice(standards), but when it comes to killing murders, I think it is moral and humane.

The point of justice isn't to make one suffer for long periods of time in jail so that they live miserably and feel some sort of regret for what they did. You live in a society, and you take a life... you don't deserve to keep your own.

You and your puny "justice". What if the legal system actually gets it wrong and they condemn the wrong guy. Want the society to become murderous of innocents just in exchange of managing to have this 'justice' you are talking about?

Death penalty does not seem to stop crime rates. It does increase the risk to have innocent people killed by inept governments in attempts to make citizens feel 'safer'.

A well meaning but imperfect judicial system and government brings sixty accused murderers to trial.

Twenty are convicted and hanged, four of whom are innocent

Twenty are acquitted, of whom four go on a killing spree

Twenty are sent to prison for life, of whom four are innocent, four riot and kill guards, and four are killed by other inmates.

Twenty murderers are never identified, of whom four strike again.

I will spare you the other combinations and logical possibilities.

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHICH YOU CHOOSE - ANY HUMAN SYSTEM WILL MUCK IT UP.

Defendant-victim racial combinations (source NAACP)
Executions carried out in the United States from 1976 - April 2010

------------------White Victim--Black Victim--Latino/a Victim--Asian Victim--Native American Victim
White Defendant.....630 52.50%......15 1.25% ......14 1.17%..............4 0.33%...........0 0%
Black Defendant.......249 20.75%....135 11.25%....17 1.42%...........11 0.92%...........0 0%
Latino/a Defendant.....39 3.25%..........3 0.25%......39 3.25%..............2 0.17%..........0 0%
Asian Defendant.............2 0.17%............0 0% ............0 0% ...................5 0.42%......... 0 0%
Native Amer. Def.........13 1.08%...........0 0%.............0 0%.......................0 0%..........2 0.17%
TOTAL:.............................933 77.75%.....153 12.75%....70 5.83%.........22 1.83%........2 0.17%

Note: In addition, there were 20 defendants executed for the murders of multiple victims of different races.
Of those, 11 defendants were white, 6 black and 3 Latino. (1.67%)

Murder victims by race (from USDOJ)
2009 Concerning murder victims for whom race was known, 48.7 percent were white, 48.6 percent were black, and 2.7 percent were of other races.
2004 murder victims by race white 6,929, black 6,632, other 365, unknown 195


Get the picture?

I am very strongly against the death penalty. For one thing, it's a logical fallacy. two wrongs do not make a right. another thing, I don't think it does anything for the families of victims. it's not like seeing blood is the only thing that is gonna create closure. closure is a BS concept anyways. and supporting the death penalty for anything besides murder is utter insanity.

what infuriates me the most is when pro-death penalty people say the death penalty is good for families and protects children. wtf?

Oh yeah - I've also noticed, most NTs seem to support the death penalty, but most Aspies seem to be against it.

The death penalty is fine with me. They just need to be absolutely sure and use it sparingly. You can't take it back after he's dead.

But I think the idea is silly and counterproductive. People suffer more in prison, especially in supermax prisons where they basically drive you insane. If the idea is to make them suffer we should keep them around and make them, y'know, suffer.

I think the Hell fantasy is letting these guys off easy.

I think if someone did something horribly nasty and can't possibly be rehabilitated, and we're CERTAIN that they did it, we should go ahead and kill 'em.

We've got this guy out here, skinhead thug, killed a district attorney in plain view of a judge, jury, and courtroom full of reporters. We know he did it. There's no question at all that he did it.

His life history suggests that he has sociopathic, violent tendencies.

He is without remorse.

IMHO he's just a dog that needs to be put down. And do it as cheaply as possible. Cremate him and toss his ashes in the trash. He's made it very clear that he's not what you'd generally call a human being.

My problem with the death penalty is all the guys on death row who "probably did something to deserve it".

If we weren't so worried about drugs, there would be plenty of room in our prisons for all the violent criminals and kiddie diddlers to stay locked up forever.

Think ugly duckling. Think raised by wolves. I have lived all my life in academia. I do not know how the ratio NT / AS is in the average American university, but almighty few are even suspected Aspies. The vast majority are admirably socialized.

I'm a big fan of the death penalty and I would like to see it use liberally for a wide variety of crimes as long as there is a really high standard of evidence. I'd like to see it used for most premeditated murders, sex crimes, robberies involving some sort of confrontation, anyone in the drug trade, most gang-related crimes, and making all illegal aliens who kill someone eligible for the death penalty regardless of circumstances. I also favor public executions (preferably at the scene of the crime when possible), I don't think that gas chambers and lethal injection are fitting for the crimes, and that we should use hanging, firing squads, and beheading. I also favor the use of chain gangs in place of longer sentences and corporal punishment in place of having crowded county jails. The biggest problem with the cost of capital punishment is the endless court appeal cases and holding them in a super high security cell block for 20+ years. By the time that a death penalty case goes through an appeal or two, it's usually pretty obvious that there's no reason for more unless they can submit new evidence. In old cases where DNA testing was not as available, such an appeal may have merit but that can be done in a local court. Taking it to the supreme court is usually a waste. Last of all, if one case is held up, that should not prevent others from going ahead of the people in front of them.