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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I may just be a stupid, sexist bigot, but it seems weird to me that if feminism is pro-equality, in every respect for both genders, then they should practice what they preach and have 50% representation of both genders on their board and amongst their leadership.


50% representation of both genders leaves the possibility of an all-male or all-female board where half of them have a complementary gender identity. (50% men, 50% "women trapped in men's bodies")

Equal outcome advocates would not hire members of any group that met their assigned quota. Picture being told that you are not allowed to work somewhere because "we have enough of your kind". Oooh! Here's some drama: Imagine that you could not get a position because a tomboy got the last spot.

I might not worry much about disproportionate representation of people if there is a fair representation of diverse ideas. In other words, I would not be too bothered by non-diverse authority if they empathized with all socially viable ideas that were not their own.

Thing is, you would have to rotate power often, because that level of rationality does not tend to last too long. Confused

On the other hand, there is a problem with equal representation based on sex, too. It would be harder for people who actually are of another sex or culture to conform to the ideologies of the ingroup since they were raised with unlike interests. That is, women should be included in the men's network because they identify things that men consistently do not. This helps the integrity of the whole, but it also assumes that looking different means thinking different.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Laughing but for real I am a feminist but that was funny.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Amazing Atheist is funny, too.





He seems not to care too much for feminism--and has a large number of videos on the subject.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleared because the mods removed the post it was in response to and thus it seems irrelevant now.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And how many women would beat the heck out of these other women if they so much as tried because they like a world with available pole? I'm thinking close to 100% minus 'them'.

(comment related to the existential question of the male apparatus)


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i removed the post about castration as it was violent and sexist, but i left the responses in place as they didn't quote it. just wanted to let you know why the thread makes less sense.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
And how many women would beat the heck out of these other women if they so much as tried because they like a world with available pole? I'm thinking close to 100% minus 'them'.


Fairly close I'm sure. Net discussions have a tendency to bring out the extremist in people.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wrt the 'Amazing Atheist' referenced above (nsfw language):
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/02/08/the-not-so-amazing-atheist-self-immolates/
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hyperlexian wrote:
i removed the post about castration as it was violent and sexist, but i left the responses in place as they didn't quote it. just wanted to let you know why the thread makes less sense.


Thank you, Mother WP

hail


By the way, your joke about eliminating 99 percent of men was BRILLIANT!!!


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LKL wrote:
wrt the 'Amazing Atheist' referenced above (nsfw language):
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/02/08/the-not-so-amazing-atheist-self-immolates/


I know that the Amazing Atheist is crude and vulgar, but I occasionally enjoy his perspective on things.

He is a bit like Rush Limbaugh, but for people who aren't right wing nut jobs.

Having said that, I'm sure that I would not sit through a 3-hour radio show put on by the Amazing Atheist if he were to follow in Fatso's footsteps.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TM wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
And how many women would beat the heck out of these other women if they so much as tried because they like a world with available pole? I'm thinking close to 100% minus 'them'.


Fairly close I'm sure. Net discussions have a tendency to bring out the extremist in people.


Did you guys think that was real, and not a joke?

We do castrate pets and farm animals, to make them more docile. A steer is a lot easier to manage than a bull.

Some rapists are sentenced to chemical castration.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArrantPariah wrote:
TM wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
And how many women would beat the heck out of these other women if they so much as tried because they like a world with available pole? I'm thinking close to 100% minus 'them'.


Fairly close I'm sure. Net discussions have a tendency to bring out the extremist in people.


Did you guys think that was real, and not a joke?

We do castrate pets and farm animals, to make them more docile. A steer is a lot easier to manage than a bull.

Some rapists are sentenced to chemical castration.


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message845837/pg1
http://thefemitheist.blogspot.com/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html

I see no indication of it being a joke, judging from the fact that I found similar "ideas" on multiple parts of the web. On the other hand, if I were to write a longish post on a blog advocating similar actions towards women, satire or not, I'd most likely be crucified. Especially, if I like her left no indication of it being satire.

Then again, it would hardly be the first time the followers of an ideology have their morals and values f****d up.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TM wrote:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message845837/pg1
http://thefemitheist.blogspot.com/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html

I see no indication of it being a joke, judging from the fact that I found similar "ideas" on multiple parts of the web. On the other hand, if I were to write a longish post on a blog advocating similar actions towards women, satire or not, I'd most likely be crucified. Especially, if I like her left no indication of it being satire.

Then again, it would hardly be the first time the followers of an ideology have their morals and values f**** up.


In that first one, they are just flaming each other.

In the second one: how can you see it as anything other than humour?
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArrantPariah wrote:
TM wrote:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message845837/pg1
http://thefemitheist.blogspot.com/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html

I see no indication of it being a joke, judging from the fact that I found similar "ideas" on multiple parts of the web. On the other hand, if I were to write a longish post on a blog advocating similar actions towards women, satire or not, I'd most likely be crucified. Especially, if I like her left no indication of it being satire.

Then again, it would hardly be the first time the followers of an ideology have their morals and values f**** up.


In that first one, they are just flaming each other.

In the second one: how can you see it as anything other than humour?


How can you see it as humor when she has more posts advocating similar thinking all with no hint of it being humorous. I think the reason why I didn't find it humorous is that it was not funny. Would you see a similar post written about rape as funny?
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