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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:04 pm    Post subject: Obama is hypnotizing America Reply with quote

This is only part 1 Shocked

Obama’s techniques are the height of deception and psychological manipulation, remaining hidden because one must understand the science behind the language patterns in order to spot them. This document examines Obama’s speeches word by word, hand gesture by hand gesture, tone, pauses, body language, and proves his use of covert hypnosis intended only for licensed therapists on consenting patients. Obama’s mesmerized, cult-like, grade-school-crush-like worship by millions is not because “Obama is the greatest leader of a generation” who simply hasn’t accomplished anything, who magically “inspires” by giving speeches. Obama is committing perhaps the biggest fraud and deception in American history.

Obama is not just using subliminal messages, but textbook covert hypnosis and neuro-linguistic programming techniques on audiences that are intentionally designed to sideline rational judgment and implant subconscious commands to think he is wonderful and elect him President. Obama is eloquent. However, Obama’s subconscious techniques are shown to elicit powerful emotion from his audience and then transfer those emotions onto him, to sideline rational judgment, and implant hypnotic commands that we are unaware of and can’t even consciously question. The polls are misleading because some of Obama’s commands are designed to be triggered only in the voting booth on November 4th. Obama is immune to logical arguments like Wright, Ayers, shifting every position, character, and inexperience, because hypnosis affects us on an unconscious and emotional level. To many people who see this unaccomplished man’s unnatural and irrational rise to the highest office in the world as suspicious and frightening and to those who welcome it, this document uncovers, explains, and proves the deceptive tactics behind true “Obama Phenomenon” including why younger people are more easily affected.

Skeptics will surely doubt the information provided in this document with four specific oppositions – each of which this document disproves.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/how-obama-literally-hypnotized-america-part-1/
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am not suggestible to mesmerism, at least not without the help of powerful pharmaceuticals. i voted for him because he was a democrat, and as such, the lesser of two evils in our dysfunctional political system. as a working-class person, i vote consistently for the party which harms me and mine the least, and that happens to be the democrats. the dems are NOT the ones that have blocked universal health care reform for the past century, nor are they the ones trying to block me from my legal right to vote just because i am not a repub [while disingenuously claiming to be protecting me from "voter fraud"], nor are they the ones sticking their hypocritical blue noses into my private affairs. that is the long and short of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hypnosis only works on people who want to be hypnotized. The only people Obama can hypnotize are those who already support him.

You should probably watch less cartoons.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama expresses a great deal of self esteem, confidence, and optimism in the messages he delivers with his scripted speeches. He is a charismatic speaker, when provided a teleprompter, but is not nearly as charismatic without one. But, there is no evidence that a significant number of republicans have changed over to support him because of his charisma; he sings well to his potential choir of supporters.

Real hypnotists don't need or use teleprompters. What the author of the document is doing is picking out behaviors from Obama's scripted speeches and applying them to referenced information on hypnotism. While he is more than capable of writing speeches, those responsibilities have been sourced out to a speech writer, since he came into office.

Beyond this the author of document linked provides no credentials of expertise in this area, identifying himself with the credentials of anonymous, and appears be speaking from the platform of a "birther" supported website that is still hanging on to that conspiracy theory.

Obama's unyielding confidence and self-esteem have been used by some attempting to evidence descriptions of him with terms that range from psychopath to antichrist.

Hypnotist, is one of the nicer terms "of endearment" that his opposition has found to criticize him for.Smile It seems to be one of the more lighthearted attempts, passed around as hyperbole on the internet for the last several years, to put Obama in a bad light:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I don't know about that, but one time I was at an event that hired a hypnotist as an entertainer. I'd say most of the people were mesmerized but it didn't affect me.

As for Obama he actually drives me nuts to listen to. It's hard to describe, but his arguments in his speeches remind me a lot of the Chewbacca Defense in that South Park show with the way he connects facts into a chain of events or reasoning.

Anyway to people auntblabby, voting for Obama on that basis is understandable. I mean c'mon the Republican choice was McCain/Palin.

As for myself I voted Ralph Nader again.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

auntblabby wrote:
i am not suggestible to mesmerism, at least not without the help of powerful pharmaceuticals. i voted for him because he was a democrat, and as such, the lesser of two evils in our dysfunctional political system. as a working-class person, i vote consistently for the party which harms me and mine the least, and that happens to be the democrats. the dems are NOT the ones that have blocked universal health care reform for the past century, nor are they the ones trying to block me from my legal right to vote just because i am not a repub [while disingenuously claiming to be protecting me from "voter fraud"], nor are they the ones sticking their hypocritical blue noses into my private affairs. that is the long and short of it.


That's interesting in itself, there have actually been some studies done that suggest that people on the spectrum are not able to be hypnotized, even if they want to. I paid to have it done, but it it was totally useless for me, even though I wanted to be hypnotized. However, in a way, culture hypnotizes most everyone from the time they are born, with repeated images and information, that shapes one's worldview. Interesting that it might have an even larger impact on the majority of the public that can be hypnotized if willing, and under the influence of a qualified hypnotist. Hmm, I wonder which way is better? I guess I'll never know for sure.

I don't think many are totally oblivious to hypnotic influences of culture from the influence of media over the course of a lifetime; hard to escape if one is here.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that after enduring eight years of Bush, any other president seems to be "sent by God."

I never really watched Obama speak before I voted for him--I read articles about him and his platform. I listened to trusted journalists who analyzed him, and other people who's opinions I trusted. I never vote for someone just because of their speech--but by their proposals and political history--and obviously, their platform.

And, like auntblabby, I would never vote Republican. I'm just not into screwing myself, and all my loved ones, over so some rich guys who look at us like meat-machines can boast about how big their profits are.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i also paid to have hypnosis done to me, but without meds it was worthless. my aching back is a continual distractant. belonging to group death [group health HMO] it is impossible to get them to pay a psychiatrist to administer the sodium thiopental that i would need, and to also have somebody trained in mesmerism, in the same clinic.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

auntblabby wrote:
i also paid to have hypnosis done to me, but without meds it was worthless. my aching back is a continual distractant. belonging to group death [group health HMO] it is impossible to get them to pay a psychiatrist to administer the sodium thiopental that i would need, and to also have somebody trained in mesmerism, in the same clinic.


I experienced severe pain with arthritis in my neck for 2 years.

Pain was the reason why I saw a hypnotist as well.

The only thing that helped me was a epidural in the neck.

The pain was so bad, that the epidural seemed painless.

Interestingly, as it turns out it was a 2 year muscle spasm, where the pain cycle was finally stopped with the epidural, and I was able to control the spasms after that point to be pain free most of the time, per that neck pain.

The spasms greatly exacerbated the pain associated with the arthritis, which by itself while identified as severe does not by itself result in severe pain, for me. Not only that, but the neck spasms were reducing the flow of blood to the brain, that was in part, making me dizzy and weak for 2 years.

Pain is an interesting thing, particularly when one has not experienced it before. It can be hard to identify what's what, even with an X-Ray, or in my case as well as an MRI.

The spasm started out with stress, some years before, but ended up as a real affliction because I was not able to will the cycle of pain and spasm away on my own.

Just talking about it makes it come back per small degree. But I have learned to control it now. Smile

There is no doubt in my mind though that hypnosis could have worked, if it could have provided the conscious/subconscious ability to stop the spasms and cycle of pain. I think that it is likely the reason why it works for so many people. I think it provides one a tool in many cases to stop the spasm/pain cycle, which I learned about decades ago in college in an exercise physiology class. I don't think I would have even been able to explain it without that knowledge, or have the confidence of knowing what was going on after that point. Knowledge in some cases, is priceless.

I have no idea if that has anything to do with your situation, but there was no one doctor that could figure out what to do with me for years. I had to demand an X-ray on my neck, which then led to an MRI, and justification for the epidural. I too have an HMO plan.

Part of my interest in health care reform; some people have no idea what the difference of having it and not having it may eventually mean in their life. It is the one benefit that every government should provide, if there is any way possible to do it. The potential to reduce human suffering is almost limitless.

As far as I'm concerned, that one point alone, makes Obama, Pelosi, and the rest heroes, even for the approximated effort they were able to achieve. Very likely at some point in time, down the road in another circumstance and health condition, that others will have a quite moment of thanks, whether they report that to someone else or not. Two years of pain for me was much better than 4 years of pain, regardless of the struggles I had trying to get it figured out with doctors and the insurance company.

I've been insured for the last 30 years by employer/retiree subsidized employee health insurance, but I can still understand clearly what it would have meant through the course of those 30 years, if I had been without it, even though I didn't see a doctor for 23 out of 30 of those years. A wife diagnosed with epilepsy, a child in the hospital for over a month. These things happen in life, but they can add up to close to a half a million dollars in the span of several weeks. And I have to be one of the lucky ones, considering I didn't need to see a doctor for 23 years.

If Obama had a trick up his sleeve associated with hypnotism to achieve that one significant effort his current administration did achieve, it was worth it to 10's of millions of other people, whether they recognize it at this point in their life or not.

It's a bit horrifying to me that this situation could have been resolved in the Clinton administration, with a dollar federal excise tax on cigarettes at that time, but, in part, the lobbying machine of big tobacco won that battle then, but lost the most recent one also championed by the Obama administration in 2009, that has been funding health insurance for many additional children, since that time.

Any time human suffering can be evidenced as significantly reduced, it seems significant cause to me for appreciation, and for reasonable sacrifice, regardless of differences in political ideology. I like to think that more people feel that way, even if they don't speak of it that way in spoken discourse.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentallyskilled wrote:
thats stupid
Your post is very well thought out too Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Obama is hypnotizing America Reply with quote

Delphiki wrote:
This is only part 1 Shocked


How many parts do you have?

So, it will be the Hypnotist versus the Zombie


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other parts are not published yet as far as I know.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doody.
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aghogday wrote:
I experienced severe pain with arthritis in my neck for 2 years. Pain was the reason why I saw a hypnotist as well. The only thing that helped me was a epidural in the neck. The pain was so bad, that the epidural seemed painless. Interestingly, as it turns out it was a 2 year muscle spasm, where the pain cycle was finally stopped with the epidural, and I was able to control the spasms after that point to be pain free most of the time, per that neck pain. The spasms greatly exacerbated the pain associated with the arthritis, which by itself while identified as severe does not by itself result in severe pain, for me. Not only that, but the neck spasms were reducing the flow of blood to the brain, that was in part, making me dizzy and weak for 2 years. Pain is an interesting thing, particularly when one has not experienced it before. It can be hard to identify what's what, even with an X-Ray, or in my case as well as an MRI. The spasm started out with stress, some years before, but ended up as a real affliction because I was not able to will the cycle of pain and spasm away on my own. Just talking about it makes it come back per small degree. But I have learned to control it now. Smile

i had [i think it is called this] spasmodic torticollis for decades, where i'd move wrong [or the weather would just be too humid] and suddenly feel a sharp crick in my upper back/lower neck, and my head would jerk sharply to one side and i could hardly breathe with the pain, and i'd have to just go sit down [but finding no comfortable position] someplace, as i couldn't do any physical labor while this was happening, it would last about a week, with the pain gradually ebbing. this caused me to get a gradually worsening scoliosis in my mid-back/thoracic spine which irritated the nerves in the area and made a vicious circle. the only cure was to start swimming crawl/backstroke in the lap pool, a mile's worth most evenings, to build up the muscles so that they would resist the bad commands coming from my thumpin' bumpin' brain that were causing the spasms in the first place. i have also had to learn how to maintain proper posture at all times and to not make sudden moves involving any torsion of my spine or to suddenly reach upwards with my arms.

aghogday wrote:
Part of my interest in health care reform; some people have no idea what the difference of having it and not having it may eventually mean in their life. It is the one benefit that every government should provide, if there is any way possible to do it. The potential to reduce human suffering is almost limitless. As far as I'm concerned, that one point alone, makes Obama, Pelosi, and the rest heroes, even for the approximated effort they were able to achieve. Very likely at some point in time, down the road in another circumstance and health condition, that others will have a quite moment of thanks, whether they report that to someone else or not. Two years of pain for me was much better than 4 years of pain, regardless of the struggles I had trying to get it figured out with doctors and the insurance company.

a lot of people will cut off their nose to spite their face, because the feeling of moral superiority feels so good to them. they will be working class people who vote against obama and against health care reform because they don't want people they consider their inferiors to have health care, they WANT those people to suffer. if obamacare survives, those prejudiced folk who spouted calumny about it will receive their medical care that they otherwise likely would have been prevented from getting otherwise, but they will still curse obama because they see their inferiors getting health care also.

aghogday wrote:
I've been insured for the last 30 years by employer/retiree subsidized employee health insurance, but I can still understand clearly what it would have meant through the course of those 30 years, if I had been without it, even though I didn't see a doctor for 23 out of 30 of those years. A wife diagnosed with epilepsy, a child in the hospital for over a month. These things happen in life, but they can add up to close to a half a million dollars in the span of several weeks. And I have to be one of the lucky ones, considering I didn't need to see a doctor for 23 years. If Obama had a trick up his sleeve associated with hypnotism to achieve that one significant effort his current administration did achieve, it was worth it to 10's of millions of other people, whether they recognize it at this point in their life or not.

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aghogday wrote:
It's a bit horrifying to me that this situation could have been resolved in the Clinton administration, with a dollar federal excise tax on cigarettes at that time, but, in part, the lobbying machine of big tobacco won that battle then, but lost the most recent one also championed by the Obama administration in 2009, that has been funding health insurance for many additional children, since that time. Any time human suffering can be evidenced as significantly reduced, it seems significant cause to me for appreciation, and for reasonable sacrifice, regardless of differences in political ideology. I like to think that more people feel that way, even if they don't speak of it that way in spoken discourse.

during the nixon administration, nixon actually proposed a health care systemic reform that was to the left of obamacare, but his own neanderthals in his own repub party shot it down. there are people in power/in the intelligensia who get off on human suffering, and the bulk of voters are indifferent at best, as long as they got theirs. it's dog-eat-dog in america, it has been that way more often than not, and there are no signs that we as a nation will evolve past this to join the civilized world.
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