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that reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw a while back, it said "When God gives you lemons, find a new God."

WELL THAT'S JUST PLAIN BULL s**t..and has nothing to do with the true teachings of the historic Jesus..who never ever wanted to be worshipped..and just learned a few helpful hints to a way to bliss in the desert and all of that...

No i'm not saying you said BS..just that for the most part any modern Christian religion that practices hate is the true anti-Christ in effect if there ever could be as that is antithetical to the real teachings of the historical Jesus..

But anyway..until one feels the power of the force..per that Jedi thing..or GOD or whatever ya want to call it.it simply does not exist..

But when one experiences IT there can be no doubting IT cause it REALLy iS a Force that ya can feel and put to incredible uSe to make almost any dream come true.

But that iS only my experience..iT may not at all be anywhere in the Universe that ya filter through your mind and experience...

GOD ain't fair as far as i can see..but i don't see very far when it comes to the ONE tHaT IS nor does any other silly weak human being..BOLD ENOUGH TO SUGGEST THEY KNOW HOW THIS WHOLE THING WORKS....

I like this, but I would say that God can be more than a solace. You might be surprised how much extraordinary work is inspired by faith. My church feeds the homeless and gives them a warm bed in the winter for example. Mission Aviation Fellowship fly aid and relief workers into difficult areas at considerable risk. St. Barnabas are in Syria picking up orphans and finding families for them. A21 are in Greece, rescuing trafficked girls from gangs who sell them for sex. I could go on.

People do this because Jesus said to do it. There are similar examples in other faiths.

YES THE ANSWER IS TO BE JESUS FOR OTHER PEOPLE NOT JUST SEE HIM OR SAY SOME MAGICAL WORDS TO SAVE A SOUL..

My Catholic church does these things too now..and that is why i truly love it..whether or not i agree with the all the traditional rituals or not..

It walks in the footsteps of the TRUE HISTORICAL JESUS NOW..AND that's all that counts to me....from the personal path i have gained for the ONE that IS ALL..!

Do you have a co-morbid condition ? You don't appear to have ASD/AS. I don't see any ASD person outright calling factual information "BS" .

Talking about "JEDI" and the "force" as well as your mixing of the upper/lower letter casing appears like lunatic ramblings.

WELL that's coming from your preconceived notions of what you may think so called 'normal' is..

For one thing as i clarified in my statement the BS is false christians calling themselves christians by oppressing homosexuals and other hateful ways of being..that is an anti-christ way of being..per the original historical accounts of the real man Jesus...

I see language as art not just logic..
So ergo this is what comes..information from heart not just logic..

But..this is impossible to see for one who only uses.. in metaphor.. only half a brain...

Seriously there are two researched and scientifically documented pathways of the brain...

One is social cognition...and the other is mechanical cognition...

While mechanical cognition might bring you to the solution for an algebra equation...
Or bring ya..perfect punctuation and grammar..

It simply will NOT bring one to the true essence of love or this thing many people describe as GOD..

And yes I am professionally diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder..

I was a non-verbal child..and had the same difficulties with reciprocal social communication as most people here for most of my life..

But at 53..the thing that is different for me than most people here..is I do not see limitation or expectation from others..so I believe anything is possible in life...

Therefore..i defeated what can be in effect..a horrible condition.. that prevents many people from being a full human being in connecting with other human beings..

Now I can go out in the general public and make small talk with complete strangers...

Nah..friend that is not a lunatic way of being..that's just seeing more than one cognitive empathy generating perception of how other people experience the world..

And this indeed is the core issue of Autism Spectrum disorder...an inability to actually demonstrate empathy for the differences of others..that does require efficient skills in cognitive empathy a learned skill that comes with the usage of the RESEARCHED AND documented pathway of the brain which is social cognition...

And the issue on this site is..it is a playground for people who did well in school overall..and did not use the social cognition areas of their brain EFFECTIVELY that basically withered away...as if you don't use it ya lose it..just like a muscle in the body that will wither away if not used...

Well.. i cured my autism spectrum disorder in effect by remediating the reciprocal social communication difficulties that make thIS disorder an actual POTENTIALLY overall life threatening condition in ULTIMATE effect per the real successful social cooperation efforts in demonstrating empathy FOR others..that is required in this world for successful social cooperation and to gain subsistence requirements just to live..

Parents don't live forever..and sooner or later MOST everyone is GOING TO BE out there at large in the public and are going to have to successfully use their social cognition to cooperate with others to gain subsistence just to live....

This is reality..adapt and live or don't or die...is the extended long term prognosis of autism spectrum disorder whether we like it or not...

I chOose to live outside of the box of mechanical cognition..and now not only is my mechanical cognition as strong as steel..so is my social cognition too....

Now here's the thing..and listen carefully if you will..

As long as your social cognition is not strong..many things that people say will seem like a lunatic way of being to ya...

But i'm sorry my friend..but it's not me that is the true lunatic here..

Nor am I saying that is you...

But.. if yah can't understand what i am saying here..

It is simply proof of the point that i am making..

That you may have in effect..no real way to possibly understand....

THE DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW AND WAYS OF LANGUAGE OF OTHER PEOPLE..

that simply comes with a strong as steel social cognition skill of the human brain...

What this means is I am not confined or conformed to a sidewalk of language to walk in a straight and narrow line..

I create..i just don't conform to what other people have created in the past...

In other words..i am the actor..director and writer of my own dam play..

Not just a spectator in the audience living in someone else's efforts to create...

in their play..not mine...

And by the way..when you refer to anyone's usage of language on this site which is a site for people with reciprocal communication difficulties.. which often in effect.. produces issues with written language..as lunatic ramblings.. that ain't love friend... that's hate..and the same kind of oppression that you may have received in life if you are a homosexual...

It's just a pecking order ya see..some of the so called smart homosexuals at times hate what they may see as the perceived dumb hetrosexuals that they may try to intimidate online through intellectual bullying...

But nah..friend that won't work with me as ya see..i graduated in about the top one percent in high school..have three college degrees.. worked for the government for over two decades..and did technical writing for the government in the many hats i wore there..

Never judge a book by it's cover..you have no idea who i really am....

No, but I do know that human cells don't experience orgasms.



Your posts certainly don't look calm to me. If anything, they show quite the opposite.



That's what you'd like to think, friend.



You're free to appeal to your age and experiences all you want, but if you truly have experienced supernatural experiences, I demand real evidence, not "enlightened talk" which practically cult leaders themselves are known to do.



You keep going on about this real miracle. All I read from this is that you're attributing what could've easily been a natural phenomenon to something extremely remarkable beyond the limits of the natural. I don't have access to your personal experiences, but I'm smart and insightful enough to know that's it's highly unlikely you had a supernatural thing going on in your life.

You fail at argumentation. You fail at following logic. Your response to someone's ideas is to call them "bull", and you provide no counter response, other than ramblings that are either nonsense, or coded in a riddle. And you intentionally mix up the casing on your writing - sometimes a single letter somewhere in a word - to what - make your writing appear like a disturbed person wrote it? ::shameonyou:

Then you wonder why someone may think your writing is "lunatic ramblings" ?



As I said before, it was obvious to me that you don't have autism.



After all your posts this how you speak of the people here ?



No. I am asexual so far. I never received hate for being homosexual. You fail at reading comprehension here. You fail at bothering to look up the assertion I made. You fail at logic again, and your homosexual assumptions about me fail. You fail at argumentation.

You think your writings don't look like, "lunatic ramblings" ? You are intentionally doing that. Why the bizarre casing ? Why no sentences ? Why doesn't anything make sense except to you ? You seriously fail at logic, and logic is structure and sense.



That is just more of your nonsense.

Although it looks like some kind of insult, see how you fail to make any sense?



You should be aware that a lot of the AS/ASD people here were probably tortured through most of their lives. They did not get to be the 1% of the their class like you, because they were either being tortured, or had PTSD from the prior torture. I will judge you will you respond to my posts with the comment of "bull". It is OK to have an opinion, but support your opinion. If you are rude, and insult me like that , then expect me to get mean.

I know almost nothing about religion, however, the hoardes of people leaving the Episcopalean church was big news. You should of know that for being a professed knowledgeable person on the subject of religion - I would think. Here is a link that is evidence of the assertion I made, *sigh*, you should of challenged me to provide evidence or looked it up yourself.

http://news.msn.com/us/episcopalians-br ... gay-issues

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Hey..man..the cell thingy is just a metaphor...dude...not something to take literal..

And no dude..i don't think that the power of
GOD is supernatural..i just think that currently it is a power that science is ineffective in measuring..

And thirdly ..i'm not reporting a miracle..the other folks in my life are...that's their perception .. based on decades of experience of life.. and clinical experience...and yes i do agree with it overall..as I know what has happened to me..defies all currently scientifically understood possibilities for a human being..

i've said it before and i'll say it again.i hardly feel gravity..and can curl 210 pounds on a nautilus machine and have already provided evidence of that in another thread by an attendant at the gym that took the picture..that i posted on my blog..

Listen dude...it's an elite base for the military where i work out at..and i am the only one that can do that there..that didn't just happen by coincidence..it is the power of this thing I describe as GOD....

Or whatever you want to call it..but the power exists..and yes my life is proof of that...

AND DUDE SERIOUSLY THESE ARE JUST WORDS ON A SCREEN..I CAN MAKE THEM look anyway i want to like painting a storm on a canvas as a painting...

I can be completely calm painting a picture of a storm on a canvas..and I can be completely calm writing about one 2..haha..ya see...like I said...i am the director...writer..and actor of my own play..

In other words..welcome to my play..friend...

And nah..i don't do fiction...

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Listen 'sweet' heart..i'll say it for the third time now..i wasn't indicating that you were full of bull in the original comment that you went off on..

i clearly stated that it was so called false christians that were full of bull when they hate homosexuals...

See the quote from my first comment back to you and please read it more carefully this time:




And i clarified that again..in the last comment and i am clarifying it again in this comment...

That's pretty much what all of this is about..you misinterpreted my initial comment and responded with a personal attack.. to get revenge or whatever...

Well listen again..'sweet'heart..i survived the worst pain known to mankind for over 60 months..

i am still here..and supremely confident..with no fear...

Your silly personal attacks here..do not phase me at all..and i am only responding once again..to make it clear to you now for the 4th time..that my comment about BS was not at all about you..personally..in that first comment..

So if you can..please get over that..if you will or if you can...as it certainly is a waste of both your and my time...

And yes i am professionally diagnosed with autism..and can even link a photocopy of that diagnosis..if yah want to trade 'em dear...

And finally.. no.. I did not say you were a homosexual..i said if..really big logical difference there friend...

Part of that reading comprehension thingy your were talking about up there...

And finally As far as that autism stuff goes..please keep in mind that lots of us AUTISTIC PEOPLE go off ON tanGENTS and ENDLESS monologues and different out of the box ways of communicating..

THAT IS AUTISM MY FRIEND..

NOT ALL OF THIS PERSONAL ATTACK s**t....

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Yes, I would like not to argue with you, but you don't stop. Look at the post above, your reply "just a metaphor" to someone who could not understand what you wrote. Why come to an AS/ASD website and write a bunch of non-literal comments ? You must know that some AS/ASD people will read statements literally ? Then you backpedal on what you wrote to me, and say I should read your comments in a different way.

Here is your quote from earlier ...



See the inconsistency?

First, you don't have autism, and you "defeated" the "horrible" condition, and now you are diagnosed with it.

I don't understand why you are on this site.




You speak in riddles.



Yeah .. am I a done righting to you. I will let you get the last word in to defend yourself.


I will give you points you may be a creative genius, however, you are writing to ASD/AS people. This is not the place to express your creative writing skills.

hey..listen this IS HOW I COMMUNICATE NOW..PERIOD...

THERE IS NO RULE THAT SAYS..I CANNOT COMMUNICATE IN A WAY THAT NATURALLY COMES TO ME..HERE ON THIS SITE..AND THERE ARE PLENTY OTHER PEOPLE THAT DO IT IF YOU CHECK AROUND..WHERE REAL AUTISTIC PEOPLE LIVE...
My Xboss..grandson who is autistic won a state championship in poetry..in Nebraska...

Some autistic people excel at metaphors..and I still don't have them all mastered yet....after 53 years..and wasn't close even 10 years ago...

You just misunderstood me.. no big deal..

Peace dear...

And finally that dude above already indicates he understand metaphors fairly well in previous discussions..so that is the FULLER context there of what I was saying...

AND REMEDIATING THE ACTUAL symptoms per the word cure that falls within this definition.. once diagnosed with autism..one does not usually lose a diagnosis..

Plenty of people with a diagnosis..adapt and are successful in life..but autism is considered a lifelong condition once diagnosed in adulthood.. so once diagnosed..one does not usually lose a diagnosis...regardless of whether or not they have cured the symptoms through adaptation and remediation of the symptoms....

And that is actually the direction given by the DSM5 currently per any potential of reassessment and loss of diagnosis under that new criteria...

And yes there are many people diagnosed with autism that are referred to as creative geniuses..

If Einstein really was autistic..i don't think we would be blocking him from visiting this site..huh?..and yah..that dude was full of metaphors..and deep philosophical thoughts..about life..at least as deep as mine...

The reason i am here.. seems obvious to me at least..

I like philosophy..as anyone who reads any of my blogs could clearly see it is currently my all encompassing restricted narrow interest..that is broad within itself...

And OH MY GOD..PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING PHILOSOPHY USING OUT OF THE BOX COMMUNICATION..AND WAYS OF EXPRESSING THEMSELVES FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS..

That is the norm with philosophy..

I don't visit the dating or mathematics part of this site..if you don't know that..which i don't see why you would...

But now ya know..i just like talking about my favorite subject.

GOD

AND YAH ..'h'e' communicates in strange ways too...!:)

From my interactions with you, you always seem to fall back to the "it's just a metaphor" response whenever you're being questioned and you can't think of anything else to say that would sound rational.



And here you (once again) retreat from "supernatural" to "vague power that science currently cannot measure". Which, really, practically often means the same thing anyway. So the difference is moot.



So you do believe it's a miracle. You need to be more consistent with what you say, friend.

Regardless, you have not really brought forth any convincing argument as to why it could reasonably be a miracle. Unexplained simply means unexplained. By arguing for it being a miracle, you are implicitly saying there is an explanation for it, just that it's not something currently explicable by science itself.

However, even that should not entail that what you experienced was a miracle, since it's possible for science to eventually come to an explanation for your experience without resorting to anything so extraordinarily remarkable as to deem it supernatural/divine/psychic.

Of course, that is assuming that it can't indeed be explained scientifically.

Having done some psychology, you should know that it's not right to quickly assume a miracle happened, even if people around you like to think it is.



And here, you come up with another totally irrelevant statement (that has nothing to do with what we're discussing) just to brag to us about how cool and special and unique you are.



Or it could just be you have the right body to do so. Remind me which view Occam's razor favors, friend.



Yes, they call it physical strength/fitness. Hardly inexplicable by science ...



But remember, this is not your personal blog where you can ramble on about anything you like. This is PPR, a debate forum.



Or you can be completely hyper ... the impression I keep getting from your posts.

Well to address the most interesting thing you said first...a debate forum..haha..are you kidding friend...

Well..first of all.. technically per the description of this forum directly quoted this is what it is here:



And well secondly..even if it were a debate forum it would be a total joke..as personal attacks are never tolerated in a debate forum..and there is too much of it here.. for even 10 moderators to keep track of and police...it would never even work among autistic folk..as half the time they don't even know per cognitive empathy they are even using the lowest level of critical thinking..

It just would not work period..no way...

Okay....know that that is cleared up...

In communication among people on the spectrum clarification and verification of communication is paramount in communication..as you see per the scenario that just happened here in the other individual perceiving that an observance about what was being discussed was a personal attack which it was not...

You didn't sound sure if my metaphor might have been literal..so i simply clarified that dude...that is definitely the rational thing to do here..even if i do it 10 thousand times..as communication simply will not work without clarification and verification of that communication among people on the spectrum...

But that is how autistic people can improve their understanding of metaphors..and make that real documented researched pathway of the brain for social cognition stronger as opposed to the mechanical cognition that is so prevalent on this particular forum..as there are many people on the spectrum here that are most definitely weak in that most important part of human cognition for basic survival and subsistence..for the long run..it's no joke friend..making that part of brain power..strong..can make the eventual long term difference in actual life or death...even if it is dying for the real scientifically understood deadly effects of long term social stress on a human being..per physiological implications and actual deadly consequences..for the cardiovascular system..and other bodily functions...

kNow here is another little fact about my now 'herculean' feats of strength..

I probably have the smallest little finger in that gym..as i was born with a condition of skeletal deformity associated with klippel feil syndrome..where i have a congenitally fused t6 vertebrae..a smaller right shoulder bone than left shoulder bone..

And an incidental issue..where my little finger is extremely small as compared to the rest of my hand and body..

By the way..interesting side trivial fact..King Tut was post humous analyzed as having this similar condition..and his congenitally fused vertebrae in his neck..is speculated as part of the cause of his death..but nah..even at less than an estimated 100LBS..his challenges in life..did not stop him from being one of the most revered Kings of Egypt..and who kNows maybe he connected with the power of what i describe as GOD too..and oh my GOD the secrets of the buildings of the pyramids could be associated with that power as well...

But now is now..and then is then..so yah..that's just idle speculation at tHIs point..

Well here's another physiological fact..about 40% of human hand strength is in the little finger..

I probably have the smallest little finger in that gym..

But even with that challenge i can still lift more weights on that nautilus curl machine than the biggest most powerful marine dude.. in that gym..

And yah..i ain't no small dude at 222 Lbs and 6ft of solid muscle now..

But there are really..really...and i mean really big marine dudes in that gym.. 270Lbs plus..of solid muscle..

This ain't no 'wimp' gym..friend....

And yah..i was basically a 99LB weakling at Five foot ten..and 120Lbs at age 13 approaching high school..

But here's the other thing..even then i had this thing i describe as the power of god in me..and yes that picture of the 'starving african boy'..is also documented in my blog..

Just for the fact that i have 'Arnold' looking biceps now..at 53 which yah..is also documented on my blog..is proof enough of god 2..

Cause yah..i have super low testosterone..at 273..at this very time..as documented in my most recent physical check up and blood work...

But that still don't stop the power of
GOD in making me literally look like superman in real life too..

And don't believe it.
Just check out my blog friend..the post about "the selfie of the year of the selfie"..
Easy enough to find on google...

The naked truth is in there..
haha..
hehe..you'll see what i mean if you dare friend...

And here's the final thing to address..my clarification is that i did not initiate the talk about my recovery as being a miracle..i am too humble on my own to suggest such a thing...

And it is not for me to determine anything of merit about me..in the larger world..

As merit of a person..is always determined by peers or those who criticize that person..

i have no problem defending myself here..and never have..

Simply cause i tell the truth..that 2 is my superman..quality...

The truth simply what i view as the truth..
friend..

And yah..keep on going back to this hyper thing dude..

I guess i'll have to show ya a video sometime of how calmly i can float through a crowd of thousands of people..in a crowded mall walking in reverse..

i
m
the only one that has the skills to do that friend..and the only one brave enough to do it..or not afraid of the stigma..to do it..in my whole metro area..

What i do in real life..
speaks volumes about this thing that people describe as miracles....

Yes volumes..friend..and millions of foot steps..that no one here..
forgets...
where i really live..
not in an online fantasy of text on screen..

unless my words live..

hmm..maybe they do..2....

But again..that is not for me to judge..just like the miracle thingy...

The merits are decided by others..who can discern the truth of ALL THAT IS...

BUT NAH..NOT EVERYONE IS UP TO THAT..
DISCERNING THINGY....

Ahogday might be speaking in riddles, but you guys are being even more unreasonable.

He fails to exist.