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19 Feb 2014, 3:12 pm

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I don't see why people fail to "get" this. It really isn't rocket science. If you want the best chance possible, find like minded people in real life.


But that's why these sites exist in the first place; people are extremely socially isolated in modern industrial civilization, so their chances of finding like-minded people in real life are low. Dating sites are not so sh***y compared to the social scene some people have to deal with.



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20 Feb 2014, 10:05 pm

I've said it before that date sites are just not the place for aspies. It can get you frustrated and bitter. There's archaic ways of communication:
No response, is a response
Short replies
One-sided conversations

People barely even read your profiles. In many cases the people look at the pictures and ask themselves; can I imagine myself f*****g him/her.
And that's it.

Only thing I've learned about OLDing is about the women within my area. Most are Dutch (which has never worked out). And most are country type. Many have kids. And dont even get me started on the black women. O.o
Actually I am better outside my comfort zone. My ideal zone is to communicate with a female behind the screen. But guess what?
The minute you bore them its no way to recover.
And the time you say something stupid, they'll sum you up in that single segment.
Texting, emailing, IMing can all be misunderstood.

I feel better actually talking to women in person. Because then I can actually make them laugh and engage into a legit conversation with me. Most people online like people that can hold convos but they can't hold one themselves.

How hardened are your feelings? If you can handle OLDing then keep up by all means. But I cannot stress that "no response, is a response" thing. Even if they look at your profile.
You can send them a novel in your message but if you aren't what they like its just that.


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21 Feb 2014, 6:22 am

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I've said it before that date sites are just not the place for aspies. It can get you frustrated and bitter. There's archaic ways of communication:
No response, is a response
Short replies
One-sided conversations

People barely even read your profiles. In many cases the people look at the pictures and ask themselves; can I imagine myself f***ing him/her.
And that's it.

Only thing I've learned about OLDing is about the women within my area. Most are Dutch (which has never worked out). And most are country type. Many have kids. And dont even get me started on the black women. O.o
Actually I am better outside my comfort zone. My ideal zone is to communicate with a female behind the screen. But guess what?
The minute you bore them its no way to recover.
And the time you say something stupid, they'll sum you up in that single segment.
Texting, emailing, IMing can all be misunderstood.

I feel better actually talking to women in person. Because then I can actually make them laugh and engage into a legit conversation with me. Most people online like people that can hold convos but they can't hold one themselves.

How hardened are your feelings? If you can handle OLDing then keep up by all means. But I cannot stress that "no response, is a response" thing. Even if they look at your profile.
You can send them a novel in your message but if you aren't what they like its just that.


Uhm, if you are Dutch (which I am too), isn't it logical that most women you'll meet on dating sites are Dutch? What is a country type? And what about black women?



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21 Feb 2014, 9:07 am

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That's very true, and this mindset seems kind of new. I remember a situation I had back in 2006. I messaged this girl on a dating site. A week or so later, I suggested getting together for a beer after work. She was OUTRAGED: how dare I even bring up meeting after talking only a few times? She sent me an angry reply, and blocked me. She must have thought I was desperate and impatient.

That's what I find so frustrating. If I suggested meeting in less than a week (in a public place of course) the woman would pull a David Copperfield and disappear. However, if I dragged it on the woman would flake after 10-12 days and I would have wasted my time unnecessarily and still never job a face to face meeting. I did get a girl who agreed to meet after a week on Saturday and we will see if she doesn't have a last minute 'sickness'. Another girl I pretty much had to corner her to get her to say yes and while she did show up (10 minutes late) it was obvious she did NOT want to be on a date even though she claimed otherwise. I asked for date 2 and she said "well I have plans with (BFF) but if they fall through I will call you. Oh women why can't you just say what's on your mind?

I have another woman playing 'hard to get' and I'm tired of being nice. I will ask twice and if I don't get a clear and definite yes I move on. If a woman can't commit to a quick public meeting after a week, they are not girlfriend material to me and I am tired of wasting time and energy on flakes.



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21 Feb 2014, 9:23 am

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That's very true, and this mindset seems kind of new. I remember a situation I had back in 2006. I messaged this girl on a dating site. A week or so later, I suggested getting together for a beer after work. She was OUTRAGED: how dare I even bring up meeting after talking only a few times? She sent me an angry reply, and blocked me. She must have thought I was desperate and impatient.

That's what I find so frustrating. If I suggested meeting in less than a week (in a public place of course) the woman would pull a David Copperfield and disappear. However, if I dragged it on the woman would flake after 10-12 days and I would have wasted my time unnecessarily and still never job a face to face meeting. I did get a girl who agreed to meet after a week on Saturday and we will see if she doesn't have a last minute 'sickness'. Another girl I pretty much had to corner her to get her to say yes and while she did show up (10 minutes late) it was obvious she did NOT want to be on a date even though she claimed otherwise. I asked for date 2 and she said "well I have plans with (BFF) but if they fall through I will call you. Oh women why can't you just say what's on your mind?

I have another woman playing 'hard to get' and I'm tired of being nice. I will ask twice and if I don't get a clear and definite yes I move on. If a woman can't commit to a quick public meeting after a week, they are not girlfriend material to me and I am tired of wasting time and energy on flakes.


Im not surprised you find it hard to get dates with that attitude. It's bordering on misogyny and the quicker you get that, the quicker your life will change. Or doesn't it cross your mind *why* you have problems getting girls to even agree on a date with you?



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21 Feb 2014, 11:42 am

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Im not surprised you find it hard to get dates with that attitude. It's bordering on misogyny and the quicker you get that, the quicker your life will change. Or doesn't it cross your mind *why* you have problems getting girls to even agree on a date with you?


What attitude? That I am tired of being walked over and being treated like a backup plan or being strung along by a woman who has no interest in meeting? If that's misogyny than I plead guilty. I don't think a little common courtesy and manners is too much to ask for. I have problems because most young women around where I live have terrible attitudes and you can ask just about anyone and they will confirm it. I actually went in to dating with a "it can't be that bad" attitude but getting flaked over and over without warning gets frustrating. What's so hard about saying "no thanks"?

There may be a crop of decent women who are actually interested in a serious relationship but I have yet to find them.



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22 Feb 2014, 2:27 am

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That's what I find so frustrating. If I suggested meeting in less than a week (in a public place of course) the woman would pull a David Copperfield and disappear. However, if I dragged it on the woman would flake after 10-12 days and I would have wasted my time unnecessarily and still never job a face to face meeting.
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I have another woman playing 'hard to get' and I'm tired of being nice. I will ask twice and if I don't get a clear and definite yes I move on. If a woman can't commit to a quick public meeting after a week, they are not girlfriend material to me and I am tired of wasting time and energy on flakes.

It's not so much about how much time passes, but how many messages you exchange. I've had situations where days would pass before she'd reply to my messages, in which case, I'd push back and take my sweet time myself. I've also had situations where we'd exchange up to four messages a day. Either way, once 7 or 8 messages went back and forth, I'd come out with it and suggest getting together. Luckily, meeting quickly is the norm now; in this instant gratification society we created, no one wants to invest too much time in something that's only a posssibility and not a sure thing. Another tactic I adopted is to NEVER use phone or texting before actually meeting her in person (except a quick "I'm on my way, see you in half hour" courtesy text). Phone calls and text messages provide too many easy opportunities for me to say something wrong and give the woman an excuse to flake out on me.

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Im not surprised you find it hard to get dates with that attitude. It's bordering on misogyny and the quicker you get that, the quicker your life will change. Or doesn't it cross your mind *why* you have problems getting girls to even agree on a date with you?

I agree with GiantHockeyFan here. What attitude?! It doesn't look like you ever had anyone break a date with you, so I don't blame you for not understanding the frustration with flaky dates. Unless there were some previous posts I haven't seen, that prompted you to play the misogyny card, accusations of an "attitude" are just a bad cop-out. Because hey, anyone can accuse someone of an "attitude" and automatically win, just because the NT society believes that an attitude is a bad thing to have.



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24 Feb 2014, 12:18 pm

I am not Dutch I am Black. But (in my experience) most Dutch women in my area are cold, dull, and boring and some lack sexual passion. They are tall, blonde, blue-eyed and gorgeous, But my ex ex gf was Dutch (6'1" and big body). And she was the opposite. Though she was also pushy but not everyone is perfect. Id still date a Dutch woman despite it.

With black women. SOME TYPE IN ALL CAPS LIKE THIS.
Sum cant evenn sppelll disently
And all their profile talks about is getting money working hard and playing harder. Its the ones with the weaves you gotta watch out for. The ones without the weaves have common sense. Collected and know who they are.
I swear I was messeging a black girl and she was literally replacing the letter "g" with "q". I.E. "biqqer". And most of them have kids and dont even tell you.
These are just my experiences though. OLDing is not an online Gomorrah. Lol
If you have the thick skin for it go for it. I just recommend as an ASD, you find yourself getting ultimately frustrated or taking it more seriously; take a break! Go on hiatus!
Especially for men. OLDing could definitely make you colder and bitter and you won't look at women the same if you get that way. Trust me and heed my warning.


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24 Feb 2014, 12:19 pm

I am not Dutch I am Black. But (in my experience) most Dutch women in my area are cold, dull, and boring and some lack sexual passion. They are tall, blonde, blue-eyed and gorgeous, But my ex ex gf was Dutch (6'1" and big body). And she was the opposite. Though she was also pushy but not everyone is perfect. Id still date a Dutch woman despite it.

With black women. SOME TYPE IN ALL CAPS LIKE THIS.
Sum cant evenn sppelll disently
And all their profile talks about is getting money working hard and playing harder. Its the ones with the weaves you gotta watch out for. The ones without the weaves have common sense. Collected and know who they are.
I swear I was messeging a black girl and she was literally replacing the letter "g" with "q". I.E. "biqqer". And most of them have kids and dont even tell you.
These are just my experiences though. OLDing is not an online Gomorrah. Lol
If you have the thick skin for it go for it. I just recommend as an ASD, you find yourself getting ultimately frustrated or taking it more seriously; take a break! Go on hiatus!
Especially for men. OLDing could definitely make you colder and bitter and you won't look at women the same if you get that way. Trust me and heed my warning.


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25 Feb 2014, 5:52 am

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acebook [it's an asexual dating site. It's pretty cool!]


What's this site now? Google gives me nothing.

Figured I'd give it a look-see.


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16 Apr 2014, 3:11 pm

I have a profile at special bridge and have had pretty good luck with it. Its designed for people with autism and asperger's. I also have a profile at eharmony but special bridge has been a nice second option. I like their match feature because it matches people based on interests and hobbies... not just looks.



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16 Apr 2014, 4:36 pm

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They have no reflection on reality.

I don't see why people fail to "get" this. It really isn't rocket science. If you want the best chance possible, find like minded people in real life.


Yes, and more yes. I was really sad to see that so many on this forum seem to be on dating sites. It's counter productive. Pouring through selfies of people who probably don't live anywhere near me isn't going to help and only serves to keep me away from human contact and therefore less practiced at it. I'm about to force myself to go to a burrito place with cute chicks working there so I can finish editing this book I'm working on and to get out of the house where I might happen to actually meet someone and have real chemistry and pheromones and body language and all that jazz. Also, I'm hungry and want a burrito. Now, and this is mostly directed at myself: GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND GO OUTSIDE.


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16 Apr 2014, 5:14 pm

I have heard of bad things too about dating sites. Catfishing for one and being scammed out of money. That is why you don't ever give money to anyone online no matter how bad their situation is they claim. One woman even sold her house to get money to help her lover out who didn't even exist. 8O

I have met my ex boyfriend from myspace and met my other one from a dating site and my husband on a forum. I never did long distance relationships either but have had two online boyfriends back in high school and it never worked out because the first one found a girl and had her as his real girlfriend and the other one disappeared off the internet and said he was too busy. I felt I wasn't that important to him and moved on and never did a long distance relationship again. They had to live a driving distance, not something that would take me one night to get there.


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16 Apr 2014, 5:19 pm

Yeah this whole playing hard to get thing is a double edged sword. Some women probably do it to see if the guy is genuinely interested in them. But, this also turns off a lot of potential suitors, because it makes her look uninterested / not genuine.

Anyway my issue with online dating is only the gender ratio. As a guy going on a dating website you are significantly reducing your odds than trying the same thing in day to day life.

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Aspie1 wrote:
That's very true, and this mindset seems kind of new. I remember a situation I had back in 2006. I messaged this girl on a dating site. A week or so later, I suggested getting together for a beer after work. She was OUTRAGED: how dare I even bring up meeting after talking only a few times? She sent me an angry reply, and blocked me. She must have thought I was desperate and impatient.

That's what I find so frustrating. If I suggested meeting in less than a week (in a public place of course) the woman would pull a David Copperfield and disappear. However, if I dragged it on the woman would flake after 10-12 days and I would have wasted my time unnecessarily and still never job a face to face meeting. I did get a girl who agreed to meet after a week on Saturday and we will see if she doesn't have a last minute 'sickness'. Another girl I pretty much had to corner her to get her to say yes and while she did show up (10 minutes late) it was obvious she did NOT want to be on a date even though she claimed otherwise. I asked for date 2 and she said "well I have plans with (BFF) but if they fall through I will call you. Oh women why can't you just say what's on your mind?

I have another woman playing 'hard to get' and I'm tired of being nice. I will ask twice and if I don't get a clear and definite yes I move on. If a woman can't commit to a quick public meeting after a week, they are not girlfriend material to me and I am tired of wasting time and energy on flakes.



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22 Apr 2014, 6:10 am

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hale_bopp wrote:
They have no reflection on reality.

I don't see why people fail to "get" this. It really isn't rocket science. If you want the best chance possible, find like minded people in real life.


Yes, and more yes. I was really sad to see that so many on this forum seem to be on dating sites. It's counter productive. Pouring through selfies of people who probably don't live anywhere near me isn't going to help and only serves to keep me away from human contact and therefore less practiced at it. I'm about to force myself to go to a burrito place with cute chicks working there so I can finish editing this book I'm working on and to get out of the house where I might happen to actually meet someone and have real chemistry and pheromones and body language and all that jazz. Also, I'm hungry and want a burrito. Now, and this is mostly directed at myself: GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND GO OUTSIDE.

This hasn't been my experience at all. I browse only people who live near me (that shouldn't be hard to do on pretty much any dating site), and meet up with them in real life quite quickly. I've made a few friends this way because I am able to find like-minded people more easily than by chance meeting them when going about my life. And sometimes, there's real chemistry. These are real people, the same people that wander around in the real world, you are just using a tool to locate and get in contact with them more easily.



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22 Apr 2014, 7:39 am

As an update to this topic, I have decided to throw in the towel with online dating. I browsed all my matches on OKCupid and nearly every one of them were "red" in their replies and most weren't exact dream matches either. I found a few that I MIGHT consider dating and weren't red and messaged them. They DID politely reply, but it was obvious it was just a reply to keep their yellow/green intact and they never wrote back after that. I think I might have better luck randomly asking girls out at that rate! I had also been talking to a girl who seemed very high class and mature despite being 24. She initiated contact and we talked for almost three weeks and all three times I asked to meet up she either came up with a BS excuse or in the last case just stopped writing. It's a waste of time and energy and is giving me a bitter, nasty attitude towards women in general. I got a total of TWO dates from all the time on online dating (and countless flakes) and one was a girl I would not give the time of day in real life: not that she was a bad person but we had almost nothing in common.

My Ex also told me (and let's be honest she isn't that good looking) that she got several offers for a hookup recently and a guy who asked what type of clothes she is wearing. Those were the only type of messages she has received. Sounds like decent guys like myself don't stand a chance in such an environment! In theory dating sites should be a great way to meet new singles but in reality nobody even gives you a chance unless you are seen as perfect.