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They also record homemakers as earning no income I'm going to use that: "But Dear, aren't you being presumptuous? All of the other women do what you do for free."

going to say that to your own imaginary homemaker, are you?

For someone who projects aloof disinterest, your posts about me betray a fantasy about my life so vivid and encompassing that all of the works of Rembrandt look empty and flat by comparison. You should really be more discreet

Have fun: http://www.startribune.com/opinion/comm ... 78651.html

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quoi?

LOL what a fking crock of stupid sht


You are absolutely ignorant of the way the entire fkreaken world works. Nobody on planet earth gets paid what they are worth, they get paid what they close on. This is jut the kind of stupid crap that poverty minded morons talk about. If people had any clue how much hard work it actually takes to be successful they wouldn't have time to be thinking about this dumb crap. You are so unenviable stupid.

Your world revolves around dumb ideals that literally make zero difference in the real world.
Oh our society has a taboo and knowing what each other makes, oh Dems are more educated, oh its the employers fault. Whoa is me the little b***h! Peoples failure everybody's elses fault accept for their own is that right? Well holy s**t dude you got ONE REAL BIG problem there. If everyone else is the problem you have NO WAY of solving it do you? I have the perfect problem, I view my plot in life as my own personal responsibility. If I am the problem then guess what, I 'm also the solution to. That has proven to be true time and time again in my life, disabled or not. Nobody has ever gotten ahead in life or become happier by blaming all of their failures and success on other people. If yo uwant to take credit for the good things, you have to take responsibility for the problems to. That very fact just seems so unimaginable, so impossible to believe for so many people that they will NEVER get it. And they will never attain the higher levels of success either.

You are the type of person to criticize other people for their success because you are to lazy and stupid to attain it for your self. You are disgusting.

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k first off--HOLY HOSTILITY, BATMAN!

second, as to your assertion "This is jut the kind of stupid crap that poverty minded morons talk about. If people had any clue how much hard work it actually takes to be successful they wouldn't have time to be thinking about this dumb crap..." i'll say this:

you mean poverty minded morons like this?[img][800:601]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kCnYoPVKX-8/To9pLNBpngI/AAAAAAAAAD4/7QXypBqUmQw/s1600/India-sweatshop.jpg[/img]
if they only knew that if they just worked really hard they wouldn't have to be poor. perhaps you should go explain it to them so they stop wasting their lives laying about not being successful.

Who are these people have you met them? Do they live in the united states? This is just a picture of some happy looking dudes in a factory some where, this literally doesnt even make a statment. And some where is another dude who owns this factory making a lot more money than the people he employs, just like in the US. I will guarnetuee you these guys working their asses off are doing better than other people working less hard than they are. If anything it goes to show that working any type of regular job, either in the US or in some 3rd world country(clearly this convo is not about 3rd world nations) is a mostly dead end proposition one way or the other.

you're right, it's my fault for assuming i was participating in a coherent discussion--an assumption which you have proven incorrect. thank you for helping me to not waste any more of my own time.

So what was your point? You posted a picture of what looks to be some dudes in some kind of factory or mill in a 3rd world country? Are you suggesting that they ARE getting paid what they are worth? Doesnt this just prove my point? What does that have to do with women getting paid equal to men other than proving me right?

Posting a picture of people living in an impoverished area with no electricity is kind of silly when were talking about equal pay for women in the developed world isnt it? Yeah its kind of silly because you are really really grasping for straws there. So because these guys have a harder situation means you cant do better in America or where ever you live? Is that really your reasoning? And not only that but its kind of cold hearted to people who genuinely dont have the opportunities that people in places were both you and I likely live have available to us. People in America complain about equal pay in one of the richest countries in the world and compare them selfs to slaves. That is the exact difference in mindeset between people who go far and those who go broke. If your going to compare women in the modern industrialized workforce to slaves it shows where your mentality really lies. If you see your self at that same level you will never be able to take advantage of all the opportunity you have available to you and I fell sorry for you because of that. Your entire post just exacerbates the issue that equal pay is a completely first world problem.

Instead of just pretending that there is no real discussion to this in order to prevent a real dialog why dont you make a clear point?

My point is that life isnt fair one way or the other and you can either submit to the system and just cry about it like a little baby the way that most losers do or you can take ownership of your self and not be a loser any more. Yeah its hard and most people have no idea where to begin and they have a sht load of excuse for why they cant. But people who have done cool s**t with their lives prove all that crap wrong. No matter what sad excuse some one has for being a weepy loser Ied bet you there is someone who had worse circumstances out there whos a millionaire now and yeah it was hard but so what? They did something about it other than just cry. It comes down to nothing other than a personal decision and in all likelihood a crap load of sacrifice that people just arnt willing to make. Its called reality and a lot of people have a hard time dealing with it. So people make up dumb ideas about why things are the way they are and then do nothing about it.

Notice how those 3rd world sweatshop laborers are all MEN. I dont doubt that there are billions of workers being exploited throughout the world, but this nonsense about American women, who have a lower unemployment rate ATM than American men, are treated sooooooooooooo unfairly. They are exploiting chivalry and feminism to get the goverment to grant them an unfair advantage because they are female. See the article I linked to. More links coming soon.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgONAAir4ls[/youtube]


Patsy Straightwoman interviews Benjie Arnborough on the relationship between hard work and achievement.

PS: But seriously, you must realise your story is inspirational?
BA: Yeah but seriously, why?
PS: Because it shows with determination and hard work anyone can be a world champion.
BA: What? No. No, that's not what my story shows at all. Wow, you really haven't understood my story. No, my story shows that with determination and hard work, I can become world champion. I mean, that's it. That's what I've spent my whole life proving.
PS: But the message appies to anyone.
BA: No! No - the message literally only applies to me. That's the whole point of makng it a race. Do you think the people I beat didn't work hard? They really did - I saw them. And their story shows that with determination and hard work, you can come second. Or eigth. Or not qualify. Or not even be selected. And there are loads and loads of people with that story, and only me with mine. Mine is a statistical anomaly - you should discount it.



Don_Pedro_Zamacona - I think that particular picture was posted in respons to Devkit's darling little idea that, if only people worked hard, they wouldn't be poor. Also, your observation of the picture that "those 3rd world sweatshop workers are all MEN" might have some power to it if that picture contained the whole combined workforce of all 3rd world sweatshops. I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess it doesn't.

look at all these lazy people not trying hard enough to not be poor!--they should work harder and then they wouldn't have to be losers (also notice how they're all men, because only men are willing to work in sweatshops, as we all know):

A few things:

(a) "Ban bossy" is a first world problem, so starvingartist's pic doesn't do much to rebut DevKit.

(b) There are things that people can do to make their lives better:

http://www.startribune.com/business/255837021.html

(c) As I pointed out to you already, men were laid off at almost three times the rate of women during the recession.

(d) As DPZ's link pointed out, men are more likely to choose jobs that are dangerous, unpleasant, or require weekend work. Within a career, they're more likey to choose a demanding specialty.

a) Yes, it does. If all one needs to do is work hard, then that applies to everyone everywhere. By definition. To admit otherwise is to admit that, maybe, it takes more than a personal commitment to hard work. That maybe there are other factors at play as to how one is materially rewarded beyond than the amount of effort one puts in.

b) Yes, there are. But doing those things does not guarantee making one's life better, nor, in fact, does hard work. There are people who work all the hours they can, wearing their bodies to an early grave, with pretty much sweet FA to show for it. There are people who put a minimum of effort in who live long lives of luxury. The biggest guarantee to having a good life is having wealthy parents.

c) What point are you trying to make with that point?

d) Again, what point are you trying to make with that point?

c) & d) i think can be covered by "men have it just as bad, likely worse, than women do in this world so all these silly feminists b*tching about inequality need to shut up." --that's the bare bones of it, anyway.

Aahhhh, that old one. "Women don't have it bad but if they did men have it worse so there".