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20 Aug 2014, 2:21 pm

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...so zombies would prefer men then? You know, bigger brains. That's interesting in a morbid kind of way.


The question is, do they prefer white matter or grey matter? :lol:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 100142.htm



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20 Aug 2014, 2:23 pm

The original article posted by OP is a bit smug in my opinion. I mean isn't it just a attempt to present something that has existed forever, as a new phenomenon with modern clothes and attitudes ?

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"Now, I had heard the WACS recruited old maids for the war."

I also find it hard to muster much sympathy for people who experience relationship problems due to miscalculation or bad bets. That's sort of self inflicted then. You win some... Especially being a member of a group (ASD) that is practically issued relationship obstacles at birth.

My own feeling is that once you reach maturity, if love ever appears, then go after it with everything you have and hold on tight. Do not hold anything back. The worst thing you can do is let it walk away, for it may be a very long time indeed before it happens again. True love, the genuine article is a rare occurance.

Love btw has nothing to do with a persons financial portfolio. Maybe some confuse romantic partnership with love. There is gray area between them but they are not in fact the same thing.



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20 Aug 2014, 2:24 pm

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Toy_Soldier wrote:
...so zombies would prefer men then? You know, bigger brains. That's interesting in a morbid kind of way.


The question is, do they prefer white matter or grey matter? :lol:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 100142.htm


:lol:

And do Zombies celebrate Thanksgiving ?



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20 Aug 2014, 2:26 pm

If brainz are like turkeys, the white matter would be fought over, and if that were the case, perhaps only female brainz would be served at a zombie Thanksgiving. :D



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20 Aug 2014, 9:52 pm

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it does seem that men are more likely to accept a unemployed woman then women will accept a unemployeed man.

just finished reading a thread on another forum where some lady was wanting to leaver her bf of 7 years cause he been working full time as a retail for 3 years without quiting the job he has in hopes of finding another job and maybe leaving that one and so forth to find a job that has promotion in its future.

the general idea being that even if a guy made 10 an hour and was happy and it paid for all his needs and allowed money to be saved up. it woulnd't be good enough. apparently min wage is never good enough. not sure where $10 is min wage. federal is what $6 and some change. here its $9.10. I live off $5 an hour via ssi.

so what I either have to GF jump every few years o job jumpt to make a woman happy. :roll: all hypertheoric. I can't get a girl to begin with making min wage. even if they are making min wage.

really its just sicking. while they don't say it , they probably think I am a waste of space better off dead. well some will say it. most stick to how society says not to say such things. others probably see the people like me should be cared for but wouldn't date us.

i think if I was able to win the lottery I could probably get a girl. to them I would apear to have a great paying job, cars, a house, and I would still have my caring and funny personality. plus I could afford plastic surgey for my face and have my own gym to work out in. though such thing is very unlikely so 35 and death it is. mean in the past 35 could be considered a normal life span.



yeah and you think that works to? i see more than that. dont put your theories on that.


huh? the winning the lottery?

it wouldn't make thins worse. to women I would apear to have a high paying job, own my own house, have mutple cars. funny, nice, kind, confident. the only thing i would lack is looks which the surgeys could fix. so then you have a good personality, well off handsome man. while not 100% it would certianly jump my odds I suspect I would get a whole lot more responses.

if thats what you meant. o.O



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21 Aug 2014, 12:50 pm

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it does seem that men are more likely to accept a unemployed woman then women will accept a unemployeed man.

just finished reading a thread on another forum where some lady was wanting to leaver her bf of 7 years cause he been working full time as a retail for 3 years without quiting the job he has in hopes of finding another job and maybe leaving that one and so forth to find a job that has promotion in its future.

the general idea being that even if a guy made 10 an hour and was happy and it paid for all his needs and allowed money to be saved up. it woulnd't be good enough. apparently min wage is never good enough. not sure where $10 is min wage. federal is what $6 and some change. here its $9.10. I live off $5 an hour via ssi.

so what I either have to GF jump every few years o job jumpt to make a woman happy. :roll: all hypertheoric. I can't get a girl to begin with making min wage. even if they are making min wage.

really its just sicking. while they don't say it , they probably think I am a waste of space better off dead. well some will say it. most stick to how society says not to say such things. others probably see the people like me should be cared for but wouldn't date us.

i think if I was able to win the lottery I could probably get a girl. to them I would apear to have a great paying job, cars, a house, and I would still have my caring and funny personality. plus I could afford plastic surgey for my face and have my own gym to work out in. though such thing is very unlikely so 35 and death it is. mean in the past 35 could be considered a normal life span.



yeah and you think that works to? i see more than that. dont put your theories on that.


huh? the winning the lottery?

it wouldn't make thins worse. to women I would apear to have a high paying job, own my own house, have mutple cars. funny, nice, kind, confident. the only thing i would lack is looks which the surgeys could fix. so then you have a good personality, well off handsome man. while not 100% it would certianly jump my odds I suspect I would get a whole lot more responses.

if thats what you meant. o.O



what your saying is, pretty much, living a millionaire life. which is not true. half the people that are millionaires go crazy and smoke a lot. you should read people magazine or celebrity gossip. you really wanna be like that? it gets very depressing after years of being stressed. also picking like the lottery is not it. thats mean i have to scratch myself for a woman just to get lucky? you pretty much gain what it is, dignity? is that the word? yeah that is it. DIGNITY.


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21 Aug 2014, 12:55 pm

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I don't want a millionaire, I just want a decent, responsible, and reasonably good looking man who will treat me with respect.


Yes!!


Youngest son, age 20, is getting there [still recovering from many years of excruciating neurological pain.] He doesn't make much money at all, is a very decent person, and is good looking in a scruffy, Jim Morrison type way. Oh, and the closing for his tiny little house in Pueblo is scheduled for September 15 and he will own the place free and clear in less than 2 years [paying us back for money he is borrowing for rehab of home. He did not have enough money for both the home and the money to fix it up]



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25 Aug 2014, 1:26 pm

so why does it get harder for women as they get older? is it really accurate or what?



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25 Aug 2014, 6:11 pm

autismthinker21 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
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sly279 wrote:
it does seem that men are more likely to accept a unemployed woman then women will accept a unemployeed man.

just finished reading a thread on another forum where some lady was wanting to leaver her bf of 7 years cause he been working full time as a retail for 3 years without quiting the job he has in hopes of finding another job and maybe leaving that one and so forth to find a job that has promotion in its future.

the general idea being that even if a guy made 10 an hour and was happy and it paid for all his needs and allowed money to be saved up. it woulnd't be good enough. apparently min wage is never good enough. not sure where $10 is min wage. federal is what $6 and some change. here its $9.10. I live off $5 an hour via ssi.

so what I either have to GF jump every few years o job jumpt to make a woman happy. :roll: all hypertheoric. I can't get a girl to begin with making min wage. even if they are making min wage.

really its just sicking. while they don't say it , they probably think I am a waste of space better off dead. well some will say it. most stick to how society says not to say such things. others probably see the people like me should be cared for but wouldn't date us.

i think if I was able to win the lottery I could probably get a girl. to them I would apear to have a great paying job, cars, a house, and I would still have my caring and funny personality. plus I could afford plastic surgey for my face and have my own gym to work out in. though such thing is very unlikely so 35 and death it is. mean in the past 35 could be considered a normal life span.



yeah and you think that works to? i see more than that. dont put your theories on that.


huh? the winning the lottery?

it wouldn't make thins worse. to women I would apear to have a high paying job, own my own house, have mutple cars. funny, nice, kind, confident. the only thing i would lack is looks which the surgeys could fix. so then you have a good personality, well off handsome man. while not 100% it would certianly jump my odds I suspect I would get a whole lot more responses.

if thats what you meant. o.O



what your saying is, pretty much, living a millionaire life. which is not true. half the people that are millionaires go crazy and smoke a lot. you should read people magazine or celebrity gossip. you really wanna be like that? it gets very depressing after years of being stressed. also picking like the lottery is not it. thats mean i have to scratch myself for a woman just to get lucky? you pretty much gain what it is, dignity? is that the word? yeah that is it. DIGNITY.


huh. i wouldn' live a millionaire life. it would enable me to live a middle class life. I don't know where you get that statistics? there are so many millionares. . people magazine and celebrity gossip are not good sources of information. what stress would I have non. I would have enough money to provide all my needs, so no stress from that. depression. I am depressed now so can only get better.

not sure what you mean by the rest. o.O if i was to win the lottery I would be alot better off then I am now. i might get a woman, but either way i'd be able to buy things to give me temp happiness and hang with my friends more. I would be able to message women on dating sites cause I would meet their demands of (decent job, car, home) .



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whatever floats that thought mind of yours. not judging your habits of doings.


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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/society-and-culture/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html

I would like to hear womans persect on this article. Is there any truth to it?


This article makes a lot of assumptions and some sweeping generalizations !

(1) All women want alpha males : Nonsense ! Truth be told, alpha males can also be as*holes. Not always but at least some of the time. I, personally, would much rather go with a guy who was a beta male - a sweet, pleasant-natured man who was easy to get along with and easy to love (especially the latter) ! No amount of money or alpha status would make it easy or happy to live with someone with a personality disorder or serious character flaws.

(2) Where a man is when a woman first meets him is where he is always going to be or will always be. In other words, a man's position in the social ladder will never go up or go down, it will always be at that exact same rung where he was when he meets his woman : What BS ! !

I am sure that many people have anecdotal evidences to the contrary - about how their sister's nephew-by-marriage's brother-in-law's cousin's daughter got together with a bum on the street when she was 20, but how now, 15 years later, they are living it up in a high rise in Manhattan. Now this may be a bit extreme, but it illustrates the point that partners can and do motivate each other to either move up the ladder, or to fall into the very same pit that they themselves infest. Such as a drug addict ex-con boyfriend that ends up turning a "good girl" into a fellow druggie, or a woman who nagged her husband into a gambling problem, because he could find no other way to satisfy his wife's constant demand for more and more and more money.

(3) A woman - even a highly educated, well paid professional - needs a man to make her life whole / complete / blah blah blah : Misogynistic, much ?

(4) A woman needs a man to produce a baby and complete her family : More misogyny, again. No, she doesn't. There are several billion Homo sapiens wandering the Planet today. The species is not to going to go extinct because some women chose not to reproduce. On that same note, ever wondered why an "elderly bachelor" is an object of utter respect while an "elderly spinster" is an object of scorn / ridicule ? Why is only the woman assumed to "be on the shelf" simply because no one asked to marry her ? Maybe no woman wanted to marry the "bachelor", either ! HYPOCRITES, BAH !

And, even if you assume that some women can and do long for babies to "complete" their families, well, then, isn't that why sperm banks exist ?

In a nutshell -- if it was my daughter, I wouldn't want her to pick a man just because he is a 6'2", handsome, Economics professor, making a 6 figure income, an obvious "catch" who gets emails signed off in kisses by desperate single female colleagues. I would want her to pick her best friend who was pleasant, easy going, loved her, who had a plan for his life and a means to achieve that plan. Yeah, sure, it would be great if he was already a handsome, rich professional when they met, but I would not to want her to dismiss anyone who has the potential, who has good, solid character, and a great personality, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE (and I will be telling her this repeatedly) where he is *today* may be *very different* from where he may well be 10 years, marriage, and a couple of kids, later.

BTW, I didn't know that academicians, even fully tenured academicians, made 6 figures ! I always thought that professors had an average income so this is quite the revelation for me !

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HisMom wrote:
beer1982 wrote:
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/society-and-culture/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html

I would like to hear womans persect on this article. Is there any truth to it?


This article makes a lot of assumptions and some sweeping generalizations !

(1) Not all women want alpha males. Truth be told, alpha males can also be as*holes. Not always but at least some of the time. I, personally, would much rather go with a guy who was a beta male - a sweet, pleasant-natured man who was easy to get along with and easy to love (especially the latter) ! No amount of money or alpha status would make it easy or happy to live with someone with a personality disorder or serious character flaws.

(2) Where a man is when a woman first meets him is where he is always going to be or will always be. In other words, a man's position in the social ladder will never go up or go down, it will always be at that exact same rung where he was when he meets his woman. What BS ! !

I am sure that many people have anecdotal evidences to the contrary - about how their sister's nephew-by-marriage's brother-in-law's cousin's daughter got together with a bum on the street when she was 20, but how now, 15 years later, they are living it up in a high rise in Manhattan. Now this may be a bit extreme, but it illustrates the point that partners can and do motivate each other to either move up the ladder, or to fall into the very same pit that they themselves infest. Such as a drug addict ex-con boyfriend that ends up turning a "good girl" into a fellow druggie, or a woman who nagged her husband into a gambling problem, because he could find no other way to satisfy his wife's constant demand for more and more and more money.

(3) A woman - even a highly educated, well paid professional - needs a man to make her life whole / complete / blah blah blah. Misogynistic, much ?

(4) A woman needs a man to produce a baby and complete her family. More misogyny, again. No, she doesn't. There are several billion Homo sapiens wandering the Planet today. The species is not to going to go extinct because some women chose not to reproduce. On that same note, ever wondered why an "elderly bachelor" is an object of utter respect while an "elderly spinster" is an object of scorn / ridicule ? Why is only the woman assumed to "be on the shelf" only because no one asked to marry her ? Maybe no woman wanted to marry the "bachelor", either ! HYPOCRITES, BAH !

And, even if you assume that some women can and do long for babies to "complete" their families, well, then, isn't that why sperm banks exist ?

In a nutshell -- if it was my daughter, I wouldn't want her to pick a man just because he is a 6'2" handsome Economics professor, making a 6 figure income, an obvious "catch" who gets emails signed off in kisses by desperate single female colleagues. I would want her to pick her best friend who was pleasant, easy going, loved her, who had a plan for his life and a means to achieve that plan. Yeah, sure, it would be great if he was already a handsome, rich professional when they met, but I would not to want her to dismiss anyone who has the potential, who has good, solid character, and a great personality, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE (and I will telling her this repeatedly) where he is *today* may be *very different* from where he may well be 10 years, marriage, and a couple of kids, later.

BTW, I didn't know that academicians, even fully tenured academicians, made 6 figures ! I always thought that professors had an average income so this is quite the revelation for me !



well pretty much the parents decide what they want out of their kids and their choices affect their decisions on what she/he believes from the parent. parents usually have a better way of making things sense then their teen/adult trying to find that person. yep your correct hismom.


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beer1982 wrote:
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/society-and-culture/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html

I would like to hear womans persect on this article. Is there any truth to it?


This article makes a lot of assumptions and some sweeping generalizations !

(1) Not all women want alpha males. Truth be told, alpha males can also be as*holes. Not always but at least some of the time. I, personally, would much rather go with a guy who was a beta male - a sweet, pleasant-natured man who was easy to get along with and easy to love (especially the latter) ! No amount of money or alpha status would make it easy or happy to live with someone with a personality disorder or serious character flaws.

(2) Where a man is when a woman first meets him is where he is always going to be or will always be. In other words, a man's position in the social ladder will never go up or go down, it will always be at that exact same rung where he was when he meets his woman. What BS ! !

I am sure that many people have anecdotal evidences to the contrary - about how their sister's nephew-by-marriage's brother-in-law's cousin's daughter got together with a bum on the street when she was 20, but how now, 15 years later, they are living it up in a high rise in Manhattan. Now this may be a bit extreme, but it illustrates the point that partners can and do motivate each other to either move up the ladder, or to fall into the very same pit that they themselves infest. Such as a drug addict ex-con boyfriend that ends up turning a "good girl" into a fellow druggie, or a woman who nagged her husband into a gambling problem, because he could find no other way to satisfy his wife's constant demand for more and more and more money.

(3) A woman - even a highly educated, well paid professional - needs a man to make her life whole / complete / blah blah blah. Misogynistic, much ?

(4) A woman needs a man to produce a baby and complete her family. More misogyny, again. No, she doesn't. There are several billion Homo sapiens wandering the Planet today. The species is not to going to go extinct because some women chose not to reproduce. On that same note, ever wondered why an "elderly bachelor" is an object of utter respect while an "elderly spinster" is an object of scorn / ridicule ? Why is only the woman assumed to "be on the shelf" only because no one asked to marry her ? Maybe no woman wanted to marry the "bachelor", either ! HYPOCRITES, BAH !

And, even if you assume that some women can and do long for babies to "complete" their families, well, then, isn't that why sperm banks exist ?

In a nutshell -- if it was my daughter, I wouldn't want her to pick a man just because he is a 6'2" handsome Economics professor, making a 6 figure income, an obvious "catch" who gets emails signed off in kisses by desperate single female colleagues. I would want her to pick her best friend who was pleasant, easy going, loved her, who had a plan for his life and a means to achieve that plan. Yeah, sure, it would be great if he was already a handsome, rich professional when they met, but I would not to want her to dismiss anyone who has the potential, who has good, solid character, and a great personality, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE (and I will telling her this repeatedly) where he is *today* may be *very different* from where he may well be 10 years, marriage, and a couple of kids, later.

BTW, I didn't know that academicians, even fully tenured academicians, made 6 figures ! I always thought that professors had an average income so this is quite the revelation for me !


Why is this so important to women why???



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who had a plan for his life and a means to achieve that plan.


Why is this so important to women why???


I'm not a woman, but the answer seems simple to me: it's more predictable and therefore safer. If you're going to be a partner in someone's life, you'd want to know where that life is going, right? Because wherever it's going, you're going with it! There is never any certainty, but someone with a good plan is a safer bet than someone without. (HisMom didn't actually say a "good" plan, but I think we can infer that a guy with a life plan involving robbing banks until he's rich is not what she meant.)


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who had a plan for his life and a means to achieve that plan.


Why is this so important to women why???


I'm not a woman, but the answer seems simple to me: it's more predictable and therefore safer. If you're going to be a partner in someone's life, you'd want to know where that life is going, right? Because wherever it's going, you're going with it! There is never any certainty, but someone with a good plan is a safer bet than someone without. (HisMom didn't actually say a "good" plan, but I think we can infer that a guy with a life plan involving robbing banks until he's rich is not what she meant.)


Girlfriend here did mention that she would never stick around a man who showed no plan in their life or any intention to act on his plan. This could indicate a lack of confidence in that man.


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who had a plan for his life and a means to achieve that plan.


Why is this so important to women why???


I'm not a woman, but the answer seems simple to me: it's more predictable and therefore safer. If you're going to be a partner in someone's life, you'd want to know where that life is going, right? Because wherever it's going, you're going with it! There is never any certainty, but someone with a good plan is a safer bet than someone without. (HisMom didn't actually say a "good" plan, but I think we can infer that a guy with a life plan involving robbing banks until he's rich is not what she meant.)


Girlfriend here did mention that she would never stick around a man who showed no plan in their life or any intention to act on his plan. This could indicate a lack of confidence in that man.


I don't plan past a few months . I prefer to try to enjoy my life rather then spending my whole life slaving away to me some job goal.

Why I'm going have to kill myself. I can't be that society working hard and dedicating my whole life to be a doctor or a judge or etc

Confidence is thinking you can do something while not having a plan could just mean you don't want to do that thing

Makes me wonder why I put of killing myself doesn't seem like the problem will change as I don't want to conform to society and society is materialistic