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It's loony enough that a black man like himself dons a Confederate uniform and holds the stars and bars, but to say he's a civil rights defender while fighting against atheists holding public office is inconsistent to the point of being beyond the norm.
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It's loony enough that a black man like himself dons a Confederate uniform and holds the stars and bars, but to say he's a civil rights defender while fighting against atheists holding public office is inconsistent to the point of being beyond the norm.
a black man holding a confed flag is total brain tilt to me. it makes absolutely no sense. it is as crazy as a soup sandwich.
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As I always do when confronting liberal racism directed at minority conservatives, I give you exhibit A:
I don't know why they think racism is okay if directed at conservatives, it's really quite shocking.
I'm calling him insane because he believes atheists have no right to hold public office. If I recall correctly, he would oppose you if you wanted to serve in government. How is that at all right?
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So it's okay for you to lie about me because you're "venting"?
As a biologist is dismissive of creationists; there are a lot of stupid arguments being made about guns by people who know nothing of them, many of them repeatedly debunked by me, and after addressing them dozens of times from the same people, I'm done patiently explaining. Again, I could be the most dismissive person in the world, but that doesn't make my points about you any less valid, this whole thing is an attempt to distract from a substantive criticism you can't or won't defend against; it's poor arguing, at best.
The only thing selective here is your memory, as I've been out in front on a myriad of civil rights issues over the years, but as that would contradict the narrative you're trying to construct here, you conveniently "forget" about them. This is what I talk about when I say I can't tell if you're being dense or intentionally malicious, since you'd have to be really dense to have missed all of the various causes I've championed over the years, and as much as I don't like to assume malice, it's the more plausible explanation, as you do tend to start flinging poo when cornered.
"Not perfect"? The guy is George W Bush 2.0, now with a bit more melanin in his skin and better public speaking skills, and most crucially, a D after his name. Also, who is he trying to placate with those deportations? Does you think he thinks Republicans will vote for him if he kicks more illegals out? Perhaps you should look a bit closer to home, I doubt your union friends are particularly enthusiastic about a large workforce who's willing to do what they do for a fraction of the cost, and have less than no use for organized labor; that seems the much more likely target audience for that policy.
How do you know it's justified when all the information on that policy is classified? Who'd we kill? Classified. Why'd we kill him? Classified. What is the legal rationale allowing this program? Classified. Note on that last one, that's not sources and methods, that's nothing about the operational details of the program, that's the court decision saying why it's legal for the president to order assassinations, and we're not allowed to see it. Basically, this whole thing is based on Obama saying "trust us, this is legit", and I don't.
Brevity is one thing, emptiness is another.
(sigh) I was trying to be conciliatory without back pedaling on what I think is right. I'm not interested in carrying on this particular argument anymore as you seem intent of thinking the worse of me.
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It's loony enough that a black man like himself dons a Confederate uniform and holds the stars and bars, but to say he's a civil rights defender while fighting against atheists holding public office is inconsistent to the point of being beyond the norm.
a black man holding a confed flag is total brain tilt to me. it makes absolutely no sense. it is as crazy as a soup sandwich.
Amen, bro'blabby!
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It's loony enough that a black man like himself dons a Confederate uniform and holds the stars and bars, but to say he's a civil rights defender while fighting against atheists holding public office is inconsistent to the point of being beyond the norm.
Looney according to you. It's also hypocritical of you to say that about him while only selectively defending civil right while claiming to be a defender of civil rights.
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So it's okay for you to lie about me because you're "venting"?
As a biologist is dismissive of creationists; there are a lot of stupid arguments being made about guns by people who know nothing of them, many of them repeatedly debunked by me, and after addressing them dozens of times from the same people, I'm done patiently explaining. Again, I could be the most dismissive person in the world, but that doesn't make my points about you any less valid, this whole thing is an attempt to distract from a substantive criticism you can't or won't defend against; it's poor arguing, at best.
The only thing selective here is your memory, as I've been out in front on a myriad of civil rights issues over the years, but as that would contradict the narrative you're trying to construct here, you conveniently "forget" about them. This is what I talk about when I say I can't tell if you're being dense or intentionally malicious, since you'd have to be really dense to have missed all of the various causes I've championed over the years, and as much as I don't like to assume malice, it's the more plausible explanation, as you do tend to start flinging poo when cornered.
"Not perfect"? The guy is George W Bush 2.0, now with a bit more melanin in his skin and better public speaking skills, and most crucially, a D after his name. Also, who is he trying to placate with those deportations? Does you think he thinks Republicans will vote for him if he kicks more illegals out? Perhaps you should look a bit closer to home, I doubt your union friends are particularly enthusiastic about a large workforce who's willing to do what they do for a fraction of the cost, and have less than no use for organized labor; that seems the much more likely target audience for that policy.
How do you know it's justified when all the information on that policy is classified? Who'd we kill? Classified. Why'd we kill him? Classified. What is the legal rationale allowing this program? Classified. Note on that last one, that's not sources and methods, that's nothing about the operational details of the program, that's the court decision saying why it's legal for the president to order assassinations, and we're not allowed to see it. Basically, this whole thing is based on Obama saying "trust us, this is legit", and I don't.
Brevity is one thing, emptiness is another.
(sigh) I was trying to be conciliatory without back pedaling on what I think is right. I'm not interested in carrying on this particular argument anymore as you seem intent of thinking the worse of me.
You've created that aura about yourself so don't go blaming anyone else. Maybe your opinion of yourself isn't very high since you can't seem to construct a single thought without consulting The Progressive's Guide to The Universe to see what you'rs supposed to think.
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So it's okay for you to lie about me because you're "venting"?
As a biologist is dismissive of creationists; there are a lot of stupid arguments being made about guns by people who know nothing of them, many of them repeatedly debunked by me, and after addressing them dozens of times from the same people, I'm done patiently explaining. Again, I could be the most dismissive person in the world, but that doesn't make my points about you any less valid, this whole thing is an attempt to distract from a substantive criticism you can't or won't defend against; it's poor arguing, at best.
The only thing selective here is your memory, as I've been out in front on a myriad of civil rights issues over the years, but as that would contradict the narrative you're trying to construct here, you conveniently "forget" about them. This is what I talk about when I say I can't tell if you're being dense or intentionally malicious, since you'd have to be really dense to have missed all of the various causes I've championed over the years, and as much as I don't like to assume malice, it's the more plausible explanation, as you do tend to start flinging poo when cornered.
"Not perfect"? The guy is George W Bush 2.0, now with a bit more melanin in his skin and better public speaking skills, and most crucially, a D after his name. Also, who is he trying to placate with those deportations? Does you think he thinks Republicans will vote for him if he kicks more illegals out? Perhaps you should look a bit closer to home, I doubt your union friends are particularly enthusiastic about a large workforce who's willing to do what they do for a fraction of the cost, and have less than no use for organized labor; that seems the much more likely target audience for that policy.
How do you know it's justified when all the information on that policy is classified? Who'd we kill? Classified. Why'd we kill him? Classified. What is the legal rationale allowing this program? Classified. Note on that last one, that's not sources and methods, that's nothing about the operational details of the program, that's the court decision saying why it's legal for the president to order assassinations, and we're not allowed to see it. Basically, this whole thing is based on Obama saying "trust us, this is legit", and I don't.
Brevity is one thing, emptiness is another.
(sigh) I was trying to be conciliatory without back pedaling on what I think is right. I'm not interested in carrying on this particular argument anymore as you seem intent of thinking the worse of me.
You've created that aura about yourself so don't go blaming anyone else. Maybe your opinion of yourself isn't very high since you can't seem to construct a single thought without consulting The Progressive's Guide to The Universe to see what you'rs supposed to think.
As I've never heard of that book, I can say in all truthfulness that I've never consulted it. Everything I say comes out of my disordered head.
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It's loony enough that a black man like himself dons a Confederate uniform and holds the stars and bars, but to say he's a civil rights defender while fighting against atheists holding public office is inconsistent to the point of being beyond the norm.
Looney according to you. It's also hypocritical of you to say that about him while only selectively defending civil right while claiming to be a defender of civil rights.
How is attempting to bar atheists from public office in any way a defense of civil rights? I have absolutely no qualms with him speaking his mind, I just reserve the right to criticize him, especially if I find his ideas mentally unsound.
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When I hear certain epithets, I immediately think of a gentleman, now quite elderly, with whom I had the honor of spending some time. He earned a Purple Heart at the Chosin Reservoir, he marched with Martin Luther King ? I saw the pictures ? he eventually earned a degree in economics and began making a name for himself in business. Being black, he had to fight racism every step of the way. We didn't talk politics much ? history, Mozart, and Patrick O'Brian were of greater interest to both of us ? but he did say at one point that he'd essentially given up on what he called the party of race hustlers and poverty pimps. Three guesses as to which party he meant.
And yes, there were many along the way who called him an Uncle Tom, and others who called him by a different phrase beginning with "uppity" and having much the same meaning. In every case the speaker only revealed the ignorance and hatred in his own soul.
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Well, you and Bill were calling me a bully earlier, so now we're even.
Really though, what do you call it when someone thinks all people of a certain race should think and act a certain way, and that when they deviate from that they must be crazy or corrupt? I have my share of disagreements with Clarance Thomas, many of them considering sentencing reform, an area that largely impacts minorities, but I would never say that he's "out to get black people", that would be ridiculous and grossly unfair to the man. I don't think of him any differently than I do the other justices, why does his race matter at all?
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You started up before the atheism thing came to light, and it was you and blabby that made an issue of the man's race in the first case, to me he's just another conservative who's entitled to his own opinions, whatever they may be. I notice you keep trying this thing where you attempt to tie me specifically to something by pointing out someone who would have a problem with me personally; really, I don't care, my principals are not about me personally, but about what I think is right. I support all sorts of positions that are of no benefit to me personally, and even some that could have some negative impact on me, again, going by what I think is right, not by what I think is best for me individually.
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There's no intent about it, you got pissed off and butthurt because I cornered you on something, so you lashed out by lying about me, and then tried to back away without actually taking any responsibility. You want conciliatory, try not lying about people, that's generally a good start.
Also, thanks for proving my point about simply dismissing criticisms you can't answer.
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