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RetroGamer87
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20 Oct 2014, 1:14 pm

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It's not terrible, but it is light on information. I disagree with criticisms about including an objective section, I think that's still important, but it could be more detailed. You don't just want a good employer, you want something specific related to your career goals.

Hmmm. I'm trying to make that part not seem to self-serving.
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Also, one would think that a graphic designer could be more creative about the layout, it's quite plain.

That's what I thought at first. I came up with a much nicer looking one last year but I heard that employer's don't want to see that sort of thing. They see it as a sign of immaturity. That's what they said at the workshop I went to last year and they've said it 'round the web as well.


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20 Oct 2014, 1:29 pm

I agree you shouldn't get too crazy with the layout, but it could be much improved with better font choices, and a better header at the top. Maybe don't include references, you can say, references available upon request.



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20 Oct 2014, 1:32 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
AspE wrote:
It's not terrible, but it is light on information. I disagree with criticisms about including an objective section, I think that's still important, but it could be more detailed. You don't just want a good employer, you want something specific related to your career goals.

Hmmm. I'm trying to make that part not seem to self-serving.
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Also, one would think that a graphic designer could be more creative about the layout, it's quite plain.

That's what I thought at first. I came up with a much nicer looking one last year but I heard that employer's don't want to see that sort of thing. They see it as a sign of immaturity. That's what they said at the workshop I went to last year and they've said it 'round the web as well.


I know, right! They say don't be too funky or you'll get thrown out for being outrageous and trying to attract attention, but, don't be too plain because you'll get thrown out for not standing out.
I just picked a newish word template and went with it. ~shrugs~



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20 Oct 2014, 6:00 pm

I wish they would go back to the days when you filled out an application, then they interviewed you in person.

I'm very good at my job. I have 35 years of experience with it.

For a second job, I applied to dozens of jobs which fit my job description. It took me at least six months to obtain a position. I am POSITIVE that, if the first job interviewed me, I would have gotten the job right away. As it stands, my resume got thrown away for six months (probably because of my age). Then, a company called me, I interviewed, I got the job the same day. No second interview. All I needed was the opportunity to prove myself.

They should really go back to the old methods. This online resume garbage is for the birds (no reflection on you, Birdie!)



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21 Oct 2014, 4:04 am

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Yes I did :)


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22 Oct 2014, 11:00 am

Hi there, I work in HR and review resumes for a living :)

As another poster already said, I'd recommend getting rid of the Objective altogether. Everyone knows that everyone's objective is to get a job. The skill summary is really all you need at the top. You have 30 seconds to get a hiring manager's attention because that's the average amount of time that someone spends reading a resume.

In your Employment section, you should list our your job duties and focus on achievements rather than just what you did. For example, "Improved blah blah by XX% in first year" and such. But each employment should have a few bullet points below it that describes what you did at that job.

You don't have to keep it to 1 page any more, especially if you have more than 10 years of work history.

Good luck!



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22 Oct 2014, 11:21 am

MissDorkness wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
AspE wrote:
It's not terrible, but it is light on information. I disagree with criticisms about including an objective section, I think that's still important, but it could be more detailed. You don't just want a good employer, you want something specific related to your career goals.

Hmmm. I'm trying to make that part not seem to self-serving.
AspE wrote:
Also, one would think that a graphic designer could be more creative about the layout, it's quite plain.

That's what I thought at first. I came up with a much nicer looking one last year but I heard that employer's don't want to see that sort of thing. They see it as a sign of immaturity. That's what they said at the workshop I went to last year and they've said it 'round the web as well.


I know, right! They say don't be too funky or you'll get thrown out for being outrageous and trying to attract attention, but, don't be too plain because you'll get thrown out for not standing out.
I just picked a newish word template and went with it. ~shrugs~


I have hired graphic designers before, and it's one of the only fields/industries where you can get away with a "flashy" resume, i.e. interesting colors, fonts, graphics, etc.



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22 Oct 2014, 5:15 pm

Maitribb wrote:
I have hired graphic designers before, and it's one of the only fields/industries where you can get away with a "flashy" resume, i.e. interesting colors, fonts, graphics, etc.

Now I know I have to have a plain resume. I'm trying to get out of that field and into another field.

I'll upload a new one later today, time permitting.


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23 Oct 2014, 4:35 am

I used to work in HR for the state gov. your resume would get put in the bin first look.

good at the computer.....and do you have SPIKE, DOS, CHRIS, MYOB, MS OFFICE, PYTHON, SQL, LINK or QUICKBOOKS experience?

can you multi platform?
Do you understand app knowledge?

Your resume screams no skills. no assets. go far away. getting a job here in SA involves a degree even for a basic admin spot.
are you working towards something?

I would also take Andrew off your resume as he is a dickfaced liar who will give you the worst reference. (I know him)

If you have no experience over a c2, I would not include it. I would say obtained a c2 in IT and working towards xyz and currently enrolled at tafe externally part time externally in xyz year.

really your resume mentions nothing at all to look at it.

I will actually take a look and update if you need as a HR rep, this is easy and as someone from here I will even do this for free if you want.


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23 Oct 2014, 8:12 am

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good at the computer.....and do you have SPIKE, DOS, CHRIS, MYOB, MS OFFICE, PYTHON, SQL, LINK or QUICKBOOKS experience?

OK, maybe I'm not that good at the computer. I can only use one of those things and I bet you can guess which one of those it is. I should have put my QuickTest Pro experience in (I mentioned it in the cover letter but I should have put it in the resume as well). The job I applied for seems to be mainly software testing but I think it's using something more advanced then QuickTest Pro. It might still demonstrate that I understand the basic principles of software testing.

I sent in the application a few days ago because I just had to bite the bullet and send it in so any improvements suggested by you or anyone else won't be ones in the resume HP saw but of course I still welcome all advice since odds are very high this won't the last time I have to send my resume.
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can you multi platform?
Do you understand app knowledge?

Do you mean using more than one platform? Like Mac or PC? Do you do I have knowledge of specific programs? If I have misunderstood those two questions you can safely assume the answer is no.
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Your resume screams no skills. no assets.

Yeah, I know but I had to write it based on the lack of skills and assets I actually have. It's true that I'm inexperienced but I don't think that means I should give up.
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getting a job here in SA involves a degree even for a basic admin spot.
Think that speaks volumes about the employment situation here in Adelaide and volumes more about our school system. I wonder, is it that our high schools don't teach any useful skills or is it that if some applicants are overqualified for basic jobs, the others must be too? Either way, I'll just have to accept SA as being the way it is.
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are you working towards something?

Yes, the current plan is to get a degree in electronic engineering. As you say, even the most basic job requires a degree nowdays and most people probably get at least one degree well before they get to my age. However, I don't think that's any reason for me to give up. Unfortunate it'll be two years in a TAFE diploma before they let enroll for a degree. C'est la vie
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I would also take Andrew off your resume as he is a dickfaced liar who will give you the worst reference. (I know him)
And to think that Daniella refused to give me a reference on the basis that I already had a second one (Andrew). That's just so annoying because she thought I was pretty smart.

As for you say about Andrew, I'm not surprised. I should have seen it for myself. Some of the stories I could tell about him.

Where do you know him from if I might ask?
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If you have no experience over a c2, I would not include it. I would say obtained a c2 in IT and working towards xyz and currently enrolled at tafe externally part time externally in xyz year.

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really your resume mentions nothing at all to look at it.

I know but I still had to base it around the facts.

Facts like having virtually no education and my only job having been a Micky Mouse job at a Micky Mouse company.
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I will actually take a look and update if you need as a HR rep, this is easy and as someone from here I will even do this for free if you want.

That sounds great! Will PM.


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09 Nov 2014, 2:30 pm

Your address layout is very nice. Really attractive.

I think you've had some good advice here - but the one thing that you really need to do is to re-write your resume for every job you apply for re-focusing your experience on what they're looking for. Based on the resume you put up I had NO idea what you might be applying for and actually I should be able to look at your CV and say "I think he's applying for X kind of job" I might guess wrong (not knowing your field) but I should be able to make a pretty good guess. If you ever have a question about that - show it to someone. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS show it to someone you trust. (So great job on getting it up here!)

The objective up top? Half the people say definitely yes, half the people say no. I say unless you can come up with a really good objective that matches what your potential employer needs, ditch it. But if do have matching values and objectives - then that statement can be a real winner.

Volunteering and hobbies also need to be edited to reflect what's required on the job.

I play rugby and I coach rugby. I like playing more than coaching, but I know coaching is a more valuable job skill - so that's what comes first - playing is mentioned as an incidental (also it's kinda unique for a woman) - I try to make a link to what I'm applying for.



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12 Nov 2014, 8:32 pm

"Gatekeeper" is ONE word.

As for the "Objective", I'm on the "take it off" team. I think having to put that on there (I've read it on the web, that you should have it), is just too stupid for words. Like someone else said, the objective is to get a JOB----HELLO!! LOL

As for posting your hobbies: I think it's okay. I put it on mine, TOO, because I think it's something different----something not everyone does----BUT, you have to be careful..... The two hobbies you listed are solo hobbies----you do them alone----and, it might be taken that you're not comfortable with teamwork.

For your volunteer work, I would only list ones that go along with for what you're applying----or, at least, ones that "prove" your value at something----again, like teamwork.





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13 Nov 2014, 7:03 am

it's not visible from what you posted, but make sure your old jobs are listed in time-order, most recent first.

also, it has been said already, but the motivation should be what you can do for the employer, whether you want to improve yourself is of lesser importance (but good to mention, since that makes better employees than those that just want to make a living, usually).

basically, your resume and attached letter should invite the recruiter to contact you for extra information; it is a good idea to leave things out on purpose, just to let them call you.

reasons for working for that company: don't list why you want a job in general, mention why you want *that* job, why choose for them and not the competitors (make something up, just mention something that is not "well, they aren't hireing").

information should be "need-to-know", but show trough that there is more to you than that; make them curious and make them call you