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Actually, to a certain extent, I agree with Saddam Hussein; America did bring it on themselves in regard to their operations in the middle east, supporting Israel, lying about why they were there (WMDs) and trying to pinch all the oil for themselves. The Sept 11 thing should never have happened, though, and it's because of a world-domination mindset that the Americans got it in the bum. War is stupid by any means, and you'd think after umpteen failures that they'd realise this. Apparently not. Frankly, to be honest, the Yanks should pull out entirely, let the Iraqis get bogged down in civil war, and let them all destroy themselves. Don't waste the effort on them if they aren't willing to look after themselves. Thin the herds. BTW, Venezuela is a huge producer of oil anyway.....
Not to mention that the American Government delibrately let 9/11 happen
Israel should come clean and own up to possessing atomic weapons, and also not expect USA to hold her hand when her neigbours wave their sabers. And not oppress the Palestinans.
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Besides, as Gene Simmons from KISS said, 'It's the armpit of the world'. He is a Jew talking about the country of his ancestors. So it definitely means something when even a Jew thinks their country is s**t.
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Perhaps if she stops c**ping on her neighbour she wouldn't have so many problem.
Actually hang on a minute, because of her 'problems' she gets billions of dollars from the US every year .... yeah scratch that, carry on as normal.
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I have a serious issue with certain people in this group of forums, who take great pleasure in abusing the bejesus out of people they don't agree with. And when others retaliate to these certain people, they cop insults like 'moron, emo, ret*d etc. Well I'm not taking any more of this s**t. I've copped at least two threads or more of abuse from people recently like snake321, iamnotaparakeet, JonnyBGoode, Wiggerbeater, Remnant, and heaps of others. I expect to be treated to some courtesy if I give my opinion, whether it's on bearing arms in the US, or pulling troops out of Israel, or religion or whatever. If I am abused or have names thrown at me, I will not cop it on the chin, I will fight back. And if you check out the threads on 'People being robots' and the gun issue, you will see I have done that. Now if these perpetrators like the abovementioned feel aggrieved and want me banned, then that proves what idiots they really are, and they should cop the same as well. I am not going to be punished for having my say while these people can get away with murder just because they think the internet belongs to them. WrongPlanet belongs to everyone, not just a select few Americans, and these people better get used to it.
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Israel needs to stand on her own two f***ing feet and not run crying to us.
Nothing more then a country shaped parasite.
And you're a human parasite. You live in America, you enjoy the freedoms that America posesses, you enjoy the education that is available to Americans, and you waste them both, proclaiming from the heavens how awful America is and how you can't wait to leave it (even though a couple years since I gave up posting here regularly, you're still living in the States...).
And completely ignorant of history and common sense - which, considering you live in America is completly inexcusable - you side with the Palestinians over the Israelis. You side with one of the greatest nations in the world - a leader in science and human rights - with a bunch of humans that choose to act like animals.
There is no excuse for anyone to side with the Palestinians. Never. Ever. Not ever. All the Israelis have tried to do with their honestly obtained land is make peace, and all the Palestinians do in response is try to kill more Jews.
And there is no excuse for you to be so completely idiotic.
Mc_Jeff wrote -
'And completely ignorant of history and common sense - which, considering you live in America is completly inexcusable - you side with the Palestinians over the Israelis. You side with one of the greatest nations in the world - a leader in science and human rights - with a bunch of humans that choose to act like animals.
There is no excuse for anyone to side with the Palestinians. Never. Ever. Not ever. All the Israelis have tried to do with their honestly obtained land is make peace, and all the Palestinians do in response is try to kill more Jews.
And there is no excuse for you to be so completely idiotic.'
Dude you are tripping right?
You have some serious delusions going on, but when the drug wears off it will become clearer again, just remind yourself, 'I have absorbed modern corporate media and it has done something to my brain' when you stop tripping reality will return, just relax, take some deep breaths and tell yourself... 'I have done something to my brain, I have done something to my brain...'
Try a darkened room, reduce your stimuli, remember to keep taking deep relaxing breaths...
peacej
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Turdbrain, I've been making it my hobby destroying anti-Jew debaters here. I've run a couple of em straight off the boards after wiping their faces in their own ignorance. If you'd like to actually try to step up rather than claim I'm on drugs, I'd be glad to hand you your ass in debate.
Maybe if you actually listened to the news instead of just shaking your own hand over how you ignore it, you wouldn't be so ignorant.
Mc_Jeff's response illustrates an interesting tidbit about the Arab-Israeli conflict: many of Israel's supporters believe its existence is still essential to the survival of the Jewish people, and thus, see anyone who's against Israel as being against Jews in general. This is, in large part, the reason that Israel tends to be less than delicate when it comes to its own security and defense. Ironically, this makes the protestations against Israel even louder, thus feeding back into the "world is out to get us" mindset -all in all a rather interesting dynamic.
Before anyone jumps on my post, please remember that I'm trying to steer the discussion of this rather controversial topic back towards more rational discourse. While I suppose screaming at each other is more viscerally satisfying, it accomplishes absolutely nothing, and will probably result in badly hurt feelings and/or ejection from the WP.net community.
Maybe kiwi humour is hard to get but I was trying to be lighthearted and humour was the main thrust of my point, do you really see any point in trying to actually discuss anything with any of these loonies?, lol
My apologies if sarcasm is too hard to grasp, peace j
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Israel should come clean and own up to possessing atomic weapons, and also not expect USA to hold her hand when her neigbours wave their sabers. And not oppress the Palestinans.
The ownership of a weapon is not the matter, but rather the expressed intentions of the owner for the weapon's use. Compare modern Israel to Iraq and Iran.
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Both have nukes, both are willing to blow their enemies to kingdom come, no matter what the cost. The only difference is that the Americans whole-heatedly sponsor the carnage that the Israelis would commit because they gave them the weapons in the first place. All because of some freaked-out idea that te bible said that land was theirs first blah-de-blah. Using that crappy logic, the Abos here and your native Indians would fell justified in pissing all us white folk off because they 'owned' the land first. Never mind that civilisations now stand and were created by the ones who took over the land (granted the Jews also had a civilisation in Palestine but the Romans conquered it in 68 CE) and we would have just as much claim to our lands as those who were here before us. So just because it says somewhere in that book of yours that the Jews have more right to that land because of some promise, remember also that i) can anyone actually verifiy that promise as fact? (probably no, given that today it would all be here-say) and ii) promises are generally always broken. To me, all this fighting in the middle east over religion and land or whatever is just a load of rubbish anyway, and any sane person should move on to more important issues, such as where they are getting their next meal and paying the utility bills.
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Ask Raggedy Man and parakeet. They seem to be the experts (you know, former drips under pressure) on the subject.
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QFT.
If Israel was as bad as all the antisemites... er, anti-"Zionists" proclaim, Gaza and West Bank would never have been given back to the Palestinians.
And ever since having been given that land, the Palestininans have done nothing but demonstrate why it was one of the worst mistakes ever made.
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