why does society call men who want a woman entitled?

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What you're saying makes sense of course. I just wonder why 90% of NTs act like it's the weirdest thing ever if somebody is chronically a virgin/single since that attitude completely contradicts nobody being entitled to it.

Most NTs act totally shocked if someones still a virgin around 25-30 or older like they think you're automatically supposed to get laid by then.

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Because NT's generally have the social skills to make it happen. Therefore, they take it for granted that it's easier for them to get into relationships.

You would have to ask them, but I would guess that "What?! You're still a virgin?" implies that the "virgin" is either too lazy or too stupid to get laid - as if losing one's virginity is something that one is supposed to make the effort for, and know how to do.

Sort of like saying, "What?! You don't have a job yet?" - the person on the receiving end is likely perceived as either too lazy or too stupid to find work.

Entitlement has nothing to do with it.

My ex husband is the one who actually abused me. For two solid years. Then I pulled my head out of my ass. My current husband, the one I've been with for 26 years went through a spell where he got handsy. Absolutely no threat though because he's never been in a fight in his life and I went to jail every time for fighting back and winning. Mainly because he marks up bad and easy and I don't till the next day. That s**t's stopped now. There's only so many times a grown man can take being beat up by a girl after he starts the fight and hits first. Now he just goes back and forth between being douchey and whiney and bitchy and being nice and normal. He's working a whole lot of hours though so I overlook his asshatery.

The ex is now in prison in Mississippi and after he's exhausted all his appeals, if he doesn't have another heart attack first, he's getting the needle.

The mindset is that while you aren't entitled to it, you should at least be able to get laid, at least once. Even if it's at a party and the girl is drunk. Also, there are plenty of just plain sluts around who will do anybody, especially if you do get them drunk.

It's not just whether or not you have, it's whether or not you could have. Opportunity is important too. How many times have you heard guys talk about the one that got away? You know, this "nice piece of tail" was coming on to him and eyeing him and wanting him. Even grabbed his package, then somebody else walked in the room and she left. But damn, if he had had "Just ten more minutes" he "would have nailed her for sure". You know the conversations. Half that s**ts made up. But still. Opportunity is very important to a lot of guys. That's why losing your virginity can be such a big thing. If you are a virgin that implies you didn't have any opportunities.

My advice to the guys who are virgins and all skeevy about it is to just make something up. Nobody will know and half that s**t you hear from other guys is either made up off the top of their heads or out of Penthouse Forum. Make it up, it'll take the pressure off you!

I was going to post my insight about the whole getting laid thing, but last time I did, I was ridiculed for it.

Then why say anything about it?

damn

Yeah, after I left him he married one of my best friends from high school who hung out in our group. Her bf that she had been dating for years went to prison so she joined the military and married him and took him with her all over for years. He never worked, never did s**t, just like with me but he had learned his lesson about hitting girls the last time he hit me. So anyway, she retired and they moved to Mississippi. Me and her kept in touch and saw each other from time to time and talked on the phone. I hate him, not her. She could have done so much better. Anyway, he shot that boy that was staying with them right there in her hallway during an argument. She was standing right there. She ran out of the house half naked in a nightgown screaming and he shot at her!

So the cops came and got him and she stayed there for a week not eating or calling anybody. Finally she called me and told me and I drove to Ms to get her. I brought her back to my house and she stayed with me for a while until her ex bf (the one from high school) got out of prison (not the same sentence as back then) and so I took her back home and she went and picked him up and got him and they are very happy together. I went and stayed with them later on the next summer for a week. She's very happy now and I'm very glad for her. She deserves some happiness in her life.

i noticed in your other thread you said you wanted a good provider, what did these men do;your past and current husbands?

It is amazing how both of your husbands were able to get relationships while many guys here will never have one...life isnt fair.

My ex never did anything but cons. My husband now is an electrician. He has a two year degree in it. He had a little nervous breakdown when his Dad died and was laid off for a while, then a couple years ago we had some problems and he was drinking a lot and just laid out of work and that's when all that other started with me. But he's back to his work ethic now. Other than those times, he's a good worker.

Why isn't it fair that they both had relationships? When I met the ex I was about 17 and just broke up with my first ever bf who I had been with since I was 15. Great guy, but very sedate and not all that exciting. I had finally achieved escape velocity so I could get away from my overprotective, smothering, controlling mother and I was ready for some excitement. And my ex and everybody who hung out there was just the ticket. My two best friends were with boy who hung in that crowd and they brought me over. I had a blast. I really did. I grew up a whole lot then. Other than being beat up and cheated on, I enjoyed that time in my life. (I'm not minimizing it, there were good things about it, but my ex was pretty much the bad thing about it). I got with him because he was cute, he was exciting, he was interesting, and he was one hell of a bad boy. Which is exactly what I wanted at the time. After I left him my friend married him because they had known each other since they were kids and she has always been sort of a caretaker type in a psycho sort of way.

My husband now is good, except for the problems we are having. Everybody has problems and everybody goes through things. You just don't know most of everybody else's business cause they don't tell it. We have had a good marriage overall and I know he loves me and I love him. After 26 years things change though. He's from a family that wouldn't say s**t if they had a mouthful. Kind of an upper class bunch, very "social" (he's not -he's sort of the black sheep when it comes to that. He doesn't do well in those kinds of situations, but he's fine with regular people socializing) and keeping up appearances is the name of the game. If you don't have something nice to say, you don't say it in his family. They were taught to not talk about or show their feelings and to try to not feel them or think about them. And here I am, Miss Heart On Her Sleeve who wants to talk every little thing to death, especially about how I feel, which he just doesn't and can't understand. Other than some problems he's gone though, he's a good guy. Why shouldn't he have a relationship? Because he's had problems? Because he's not good at dealing with things and can't deal with every day matters and I have to do it?

And life is never fair, but the facts are both of them were in the right place at the right time when I needed them and they needed me. Any of the guys here could fall ass backwards into a situation like that if you happen to be what the girl needs and are there when she needs it. Love can grow from that. Plus, don't be too jealous, they ended up with me, remember? It's not like they won the f*****g love lottery there.

well i dont know much about you besides your self depreciating posts..so i cant comment...either way they sound like pure scum, and i and the other virgins on this board deserve relationships more than they do. I wouldnt beat a girl, although i do have my rants about women, like how they expect men to pay for dates in an entitled way..i believe in paying for your own food....and even though id never beat a girl(or a guy), i think the laws about women being weak and protected are dumb. id rather knock a girl out who is getting in my face, than knock a guy out who isnt doing anything to me.

@Frances & wtfid2: You don't have to keep quoting the entire history of your conversation.

How the f**k is my husband scum? Because he's had a few problems???? Sure, my ex is nothing but scum and when they give him the needle I'll bake a f*****g cake. But how is my husband scum because he's had problems and we've had problems? You so goddamned high and f*****g mighty you ain't never had problems?

ETA; Maybe the fact that you would call a guy scum out of jealousy because he has a wife even though he's had problems is an indicator of the kind of personality that causes girls to not like you. Ya think?

Oh, and at least my husband was out there and talked to me.


ETA again; Oh, and let me tell you this. When I was having problems, with both the abusive ex husband and when my husband was being a s**t, you know what I did? I didn't sit there whining about it saying it's not fair. I didn't complain that nobody ran in to save me or fix things. I didn't cry that I didn't deserve this and I didn't get bitter and hate on people who had happier lives. Know what I did? I handled my damn business. That's what I did! Wasn't nobody else gonna do it but me, and it wasn't nobody else's place to do it. It wasn't easy and it wasn't fun and it took a long time to get it fixed, but I handled it. I manned up and sucked it up and did it. Sure, I had anxiety over it, but I did it. No, I didn't want to do it, because it was unpleasant. But I did it. Yeah I would rather have ran away and stuck my head in the sand and wished it wasn't like this and refused to think about it and hoped it would go away, but instead I did it. I would rather not have had to change how I looked at things and what I expected and what I hoped, but guess what? I did it.

So I'm gonna say this and then me and you are done. You do not have the balls enough for me to even respect your opinion about my life and my relationships. You are in no position to judge me or my husband. You can lift your special interest weights all you want and get as big and buff as you want, but that does not give you balls. Maybe you were right about girls not liking you cause of the lack of testosterone. You judge and you whine. That's what you do. And you judge what you don't know diddly s**t about! You judge based on the fact that you don't have what you want and somebody else does. That doesn't make my husband scum. That makes you a bitter little whiner who has about a snowballs chance in hell of ever getting a girl to even give him the time of day unless he finally grows a pair of f*****g balls.

Now Missy, I ain't got s**t to say to your ass no more!

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nt think it's weird,that I only had sex with one women. they get surpise when I tell them.