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15 Apr 2014, 8:06 am

What do big boobs have to do with it?

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15 Apr 2014, 11:12 am

Klowglas wrote:

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Men are more likely to be single and homeless, but women are more likely to be homeless with children. However the majority of all homeless people are single males making over 70% in most surveys.

That should tell you something: Males with no jobs have no value in society and jobless single moms are seen less valuable and "damaged goods" than jobless single women.

But If a women is smart use her sex to avoid situations of homelessness in the first place, men don't have that safety-net, so they're more prone to become homeless

How is that a safety net, if a woman uses her sex to avoid homelessness that sounds like desperation....yes I am sure the best course of action for a woman facing homelessness is find a man with a house/apartment and say 'I'll have sex with you if you let me stay in your house' :roll:

That is essentially prostitution except instead of trading sex for money its trading it for housing. I mean if both parties agree to this arrangement great its really not my business.....however it could be easy for a woman to offer this to the wrong man and end up in an abusive situation, also there is the fact some people aren't comfortable trading sex for things.

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15 Apr 2014, 11:20 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

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Depends on the society and the social safety net.

I faced homelessness when I was younger. I went to the local authority, to see about social housing. They have a limited stock, so work a points based system. The more vulnerable you are, the more points you get. So, age, physical health, mental illness, children, family etc all considered and factored in. And, yes, gender. Women are more likely to be attacked than men if homeless. So, they are more vulnerable. So, they get more points.

The obvious answer is to have much, much more social housing.

And homeless women with kids are less vulnerable than homeless single women how?

Approximately 44% of homeless people in Australia are female while 56% are males.

I don't know. There are a lot of variables to consider. One that occurs to me is women taking the kids and leaving an abusive partner - in the UK, such a thing could be considered intetionally making oneself homeless, in which case the local authority is not obliged to help.

I was just giving my own experience of the system in the UK - in that system, the woman with kids would be given more points than the one without. Unfortunately, that in no way guarantees a home - it just means she and her kids would be higher on the waiting list.

The system itself is woefully underfunded, and has little available housing stock.

In my experience, providing a good social housing programme is not something that wins votes. It's not whether or not society and its politicians cares more about 'lost' men or 'lost' women, but that society doesn't give much of a hoot for the lost at all.

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15 Apr 2014, 11:29 am

Sweetleaf wrote:

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But If a women is smart use her sex to avoid situations of homelessness in the first place, men don't have that safety-net, so they're more prone to become homeless

Yeah, I really don't see how the hell that's a 'safety-net'. It's not. It's making yourself utterly vulnerable to someone likely abusive - I can only imagine they are, to agree to such a thing in the firstplace.

You may as well say a man can turn to mugging or robbery or being a drug mule or squatting as a 'safety-net'.

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15 Apr 2014, 12:15 pm

Hopper wrote:

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And homeless women with kids are less vulnerable than homeless single women how?

Approximately 44% of homeless people in Australia are female while 56% are males.

No, it's all down to the fact that jobless women are way more likely to get married with a working partner than the other way around; studies show that only a tiny % of women would ever date a jobless man while most men are indifferent. In your country, housedads only make 1% of fathers despite it's highly liberal.

When it comes to jobless single moms, those are viewed as less marriage material hence why this high % among homeless.

They say nothing about homeless men with kids, their kids probably stayed with their moms.

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15 Apr 2014, 12:18 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

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Those big-boobed co-workers of mine are NOT Aspies. Aspie women and NT women are not at all the same, contrary to the tendency here on WP to lump them all together in one deplorable, irrelevant heap.

NTs are the vast majority of the human population and we are talking about women and men generally, not about aspies and nts.

Aspie numbers are statistically insignificant.

I'm just going by the thread title - I thought this was about Aspie men vs. Aspie women. Did this turn into another general woman-bashing thread while I wasn't looking?

Oh.....wait......duh. Of course it did.

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15 Apr 2014, 1:17 pm

Eureka13 wrote:

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Those big-boobed co-workers of mine are NOT Aspies. Aspie women and NT women are not at all the same, contrary to the tendency here on WP to lump them all together in one deplorable, irrelevant heap.

NTs are the vast majority of the human population and we are talking about women and men generally, not about aspies and nts.

Aspie numbers are statistically insignificant.

Duh... you were the one who was bashing women, big boobed office women in specific. :p

Misslizard got offended.

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15 Apr 2014, 1:43 pm

Nuh-uh, I was bashing male bosses for hiring women based solely on their bra size!

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15 Apr 2014, 4:35 pm

"Deaf men vs deaf women: who can hear better?" :lol:
But really, I think it depends on the severity of the condition.
My father had already had some girlfriends by my age and has had many others after, but he was a good-looking guy, I am just your average-looking almost-17-year-old gal. Also I am a lot less charming than him, I look stupider and I am not feminine.

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15 Apr 2014, 4:51 pm

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Nuh-uh, I was bashing male bosses for hiring women based solely on their bra size!

Bra size is equivalent to mental capacity in women, just like muscle mass and penis size predict intelligence for men. 9 out of 10 Hustler readers and porn viewers can't be wrong...

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15 Apr 2014, 7:31 pm

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Yes I wasn't talking about prostitution, but the fact that a woman can use sex to draw in potential partners regardless of her circumstance.

Do you really think that makes people happy? Using sex to snare a man for the absolute wrong reasons, who doesn't want anything else from you? Someone to gets their fill then walks off? I can assure you being able to get sex easily does NOT bring happiness to most women wanting someone to actually love them.

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and is this supposed to be a bad thing? In the end she still has his companionship, and even if it started as something that was purely carnal, it doesn't mean that something else can't grow from that. But it's a great option if a woman is faced with total ostrizization. Men don't have that option.

Usually for aspie females It's more complicated than that. For normal girls, sure. For us, the guy usually realises after a while how different we are then buggers off. You are completely and utterly clueless.

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I'd be giddy If I could escape from my loneliness by offering sex to a woman, but since men are unable to sell their sex in this fashion it means they have to face total obscurity and become invisible, which is something much worse than the above.

Newsbreak: Aspie women aren't you. Who cares about 5 minutes of false attention while you get used for sex? Any woman with a brain knows this attention is short lived and insincere.

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But the male victims are invisible -- they don't attract men or women, and the book cites the homeless and the prison populations, which are filled with overwhelmingly males. These men fell through the cracks of society and they became invisible, this ostracization imparted unto them a sense of powerlessness which fed into their criminal behavior... the book also goes on to state that men commit crime when there's a discrepancy between his expectations to provide, and his ability to do so, thus the connection between poverty and crime.

I'm not saying life is not hard for male victims. But quite frankly your statment on "Female vioctims attract men" is simply.. quite simply.. WRONG.

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The is a sad thing that I see in many of the aspie males here, when the male is powerless it mean they become invisible to both genders, but the woman has the power of selling her sex as safety-net because regardless of circumstance it will always attract males, but the male whose a victim of this disenfranchisement needs to face total obscurity, and it's this sort of stuff that can breed monsters like Adam Lanza who was also an aspie.

Clearly you think having no standards is better than not getting attention, and personally, having been invisible and non invisible.. I would take invisibility over dating some oaf I have no attraction to trying to get laid.

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15 Apr 2014, 8:23 pm

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In terms of dating I assume, since it's in this forum - men are expected to make most of the first moves, and asperger's, along with the social anxiety that comes with it, makes it extremely difficult for us. Given the gender roles of dating, men have it harder ten fold.

As far as everything else goes, I can't say. 'Cause I don't know.

Completely agree with that view point! But when jn the relationship it would be nk difference also just depends on the person basically.

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15 Apr 2014, 8:23 pm

886 wrote:

Completely agree with that view point! But when jn the relationship it would be nk difference also just depends on the person basically.

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